Diablo III - Page 88

Think ppl want things to do, a feeling of growth, achivement, getting better. Think that's what it lacks.

Chess isn't that funny if you dl an app for your iphone, take a picture of the board, and get fed what the best supercomputer would do at all times.

Maybe a bad analog lol

are there any signs of an expansion pack? i myself tought stopping at lvl 60 is very weird

expansion pack is a given if blizzard are gona value 61% of themselves at 8.1 billion$

On July 08 2012 06:08 Stroggoz wrote: expansion pack is a given if blizzard are gona value 61% of themselves at 8.1 billion$

Weird, they make 100M + each month from WoW only.

On July 07 2012 23:51 Floofy wrote: i dont understand all the complaints about the auction house People always bought things for real money, except now its not just obscure web sites who can make the money. Trading also always happened, but now its much easier and less time consuming to do. Finding items is also a tons easier.

Because accounting for the AH caused the drop rates in Diablo 3 to shift to the right (less frequent) making the game feel far more like a grind than D2. Also a ton of the in game problems, eg some enemy attacks having infinite range, would have been found (i hope) if they hadn't spent so much time figuring out the AH.
This has been posted before but sums up how i feel well

Diablo 3 has no real reward loop – there is only a frustration loop, which can be temporarily alleviated by using the Auction House. As the game progresses in the hardest difficulty (Inferno), the frustration part of the loop gets longer and longer, as upgrades become more and more difficult to buy.

http://www.alexc.me/a-scientific-expl...-is-less-addictive-than-diablo-2/417/

As for the end game/expansion thing Baal asked bout, blizzard actually just had some things to say on that.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/0...s-diablo-iii-endgame-isnt-sustainable
In short, they are working on fixing the lack of end game problem.

At least 1 expan has been on the menu since the 2009 leak of blizzard projections and has also been on every leak since so take that for whatever you want.

2 expands, 4 heroes, no level cap increase, thats what I remember from some news.

no level cap increase would be retarded
i think it ll go like 60-75-90 (i dont think they ll make that many expansions tho)

I think after 60, levels should be endless, and always take longer to level up, but keep the leveling up rewards small. Past 99, it should take really long time to gain a level.

Endless levels for pve and endless dungeons with elites will be sick. You can always walk if you die at the 55th mob for example, but it will take a while. Combine this with pvp and working legends plus better itemization. We will have D3 then for real.

Unsimplified the game and bring back character customization, there so few interesting stats

tbh i feel there is much more character customization... back in D2 when you made a barb there usually existed maybe 2-3 builds, and once you picked one you were stuck with it. In this game, there exist countless different builds for a barb and once you choose one, you can change your mind. i think its better this way.


I think a fun endless pvm mode would be some sort of challenge arena, where parties can fight against some sort of super vilian, but before the fight, the party select a diffculty between 1-1000, where 1 is so easy even levels 5 could do it, and 1000 is so hard it will never be done. THe difficulty would be increased just a little between each levels, just by adjusting the super vilian's stats. Then, there could be some sort of leaderboards.

On July 09 2012 12:30 Floofy wrote: tbh i feel there is much more character customization... back in D2 when you made a barb there usually existed maybe 2-3 builds, and once you picked one you were stuck with it. In this game, there exist countless different builds for a barb and once you choose one, you can change your mind. i think its better this way.

throwbarb,frenzy barb,ww barb, conc barb,warcry barb, bvb barb, bvc

Majority of barbs were WW barbs with very similar builds. In D3 i think very few people use the exact same build.

There's like this threshhold of DPS you break and at that point, any build is possible. I bet once you break like 100k char sheet DPS you could have nothing but a normal attack as a "build" and it'd work. As far as other creative and effective builds go, it's kind of scary to go for them since if they're too good, Blizz might nerf them. And they may require specific gear setup. It always makes me scared to spend hundreds of millions of gold only for it to get nerfed.

On July 09 2012 13:17 Arirang wrote: There's like this threshhold of DPS you break and at that point, any build is possible. I bet once you break like 100k char sheet DPS you could have nothing but a normal attack as a "build" and it'd work. As far as other creative and effective builds go, it's kind of scary to go for them since if they're too good, Blizz might nerf them. And they may require specific gear setup. It always makes me scared to spend hundreds of millions of gold only for it to get nerfed.

Pretty much, you can out gear the limitation of shitty builds making them viable at an extreme cost, but still relatively terrible to the 1-2 cookie cutter builds of every class. FYI changing 1 rune in a build does not suddenly make it a new build.

They need to add more skill modifiers at the items for more build variety. Imagine item suffixes boosting rune effects etc. Builds will just multiply by 1000. A skill that no one uses because of a big cooldown will become imba if stacking modifiers from items. They won't be able to balance that, but Diablo isn't a game which needs great balance, this isn't an RTS. Diablo was always about making the crazy new build and experience it while crushing countless number of mobs and carrying 7 people, which watch and say to themselves "I want to make this too".

Agreed that adding skill or rune bonuses could be very big if the bonus are good enough, they would have to be careful on balance but it would be nice to look for weapons based on more than just the raw dps

Do any of the elemental types on weapons besides frost even do anything at all? I know all items that say like +6% holy damage give you the +6% dmg no matter what you use it with.

nope, only frost