AA double stacked on RR pot

Pre-flop I put him on one of two hands. I know probably doesnt have KK (although that catches me anyways), cuz it will go in the middle preflop, and he wouldnt reraise me with JJ, when I was the first position raiser. Also, because we were so deepstacked, AK woulda reraised harder, and probably folded to a 3rd bet. So most likely QQ, but KK, pot controlling for non ace as well.

When Q flopped, I knew I was probably in a boat load of trouble. I figured I was dead to QQ, or maximizing huge to KK. So I pot controlled with a check. He led into me on blank turn, so I figured I had to see river action. It rivered a K, and from this point, he had to figure that I had AK, the way the hand was playing out. And he shoved. So I figure he had AK smoked, which means he had AA smoked as well.

I put him on KK or QQ.

What do you guys think?



Submitted by : Babygrand

PokerStars Game #15262195960: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/02/13 - 14:51:22 (ET)
Table 'Tynka II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Koozman ($120.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Bonsy ($663.35 in chips)
Seat 3: HABACH ($594.95 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($720.05 in chips)
Seat 5: ct112 ($396 in chips)
Seat 6: 2 recycle ($195 in chips)
Bonsy: posts small blind $2
HABACH: posts big blind $4

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Hero : raises $8 to $12
ct112: folds
2 recycle: calls $12
Koozman: folds
Bonsy: raises $28 to $40
HABACH: folds
Hero : raises $96 to $136
2 recycle: folds
Bonsy: calls $96

Flop (Pot : $288.00)

   
Bonsy: checks
Hero : checks

Turn (Pot : $288.00)

   
Bonsy: bets $116
Hero : calls $116

River (Pot : $520.00)

   
Bonsy: bets $411.35 and is all-in
Hero said, "ya ya"
Hero said, "i know"
Hero said, "i got AA"
Hero : folds
Bonsy collected $517 from pot
Bonsy: doesn't show hand

Summary
Total pot $520 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: Koozman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Bonsy (small blind) collected ($517)
Seat 3: HABACH (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Hero folded on the River
Seat 5: ct112 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: 2 recycle folded before Flop

what lol

bet/call flop

how can any other action be correct??

POT CONTROL IN A PF 4BET POT WITH ACES LOL

wat?
bet the flop and stick em in on the turn. the hand ranges you're assigning throughout this hand are excruciatingly bad.

w
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i like betting half pot on flop to induce bluff shoves/floats

Im predicting this is gonna get mucho replies very fast.

you induced a bluff by checking behind on flop, now call fool
or shove turn next time

how do u pot control a 4bet pot with aa on such dry flop, WTF

i think you are right that if he is that transparent of a player it really looks like he has QQ a lot.

However, with that much in pf just do what Timdawg said, half pot to induce shove by worse.

i don't think his hand ranges assigned are bad at all Yug, from what i remember this guy played very abc.

Just fold AA preflop... you seem to misplay the hand so badly in every post

I think the hilarity of this hand hasn't struck me enough. I only said LOL once. Oh and a lol too.

This must be a joke post.

joke topic* LOL

the reason i say they're bad is because they are way to specific and his reasoning makes no sense

if you put him on QQ and QQ alone you have an easy fold on the turn

i would say this guys range would be AKs, QQ, JJ

Btw, Villan plays 32/20/3 and is an aggro donk

Submitted by : JonnyCosMo

POKERSTARS GAME #15114542873: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2008/02/07 - 00:13:05 (ET)
Table 'Wasat' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: ShayneMO ($453.30 in chips)
Seat 2: yeknaps ($237.90 in chips)
Seat 3: IAmSnow ($400 in chips)
Seat 4: EqsTrdr ($533 in chips)
Seat 5: JonnyCosMo ($520 in chips)
Seat 6: Bonsy ($394 in chips)
ShayneMO: posts small blind $2
yeknaps: posts big blind $4

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to JonnyCosMo
IAmSnow: folds
EqsTrdr: folds
JonnyCosMo : raises $8 to $12
Bonsy: raises $30 to $42
ShayneMO: folds
yeknaps: folds
JonnyCosMo : raises $78 to $120
Bonsy: raises $274 to $394 and is all-in
JonnyCosMo : calls $274

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $794.00)

   
JonnyCosMo said, "hold"

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $794.00)

   

River (Pot : $794.00)

   

Showdown
JonnyCosMo : shows (a pair of Aces)
Bonsy: mucks hand
JonnyCosMo collected $791 from pot

Summary
Total pot $794 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: ShayneMO (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: yeknaps (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: IAmSnow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: EqsTrdr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JonnyCosMo showed and won ($791) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: Bonsy (button) mucked

I knew it was either QQ or KK so I did not want to commit on the Q high flop. I was gonna let him commit himself and not shove, letting him make a miracle fold cuz he knew where I was. Rather, I wanted him to bake himself by the river on the Q high flop, or bake me with QQ. When it rivered the K, I knew I was dead in the water and could call nothing. His range had me smashed.

But if you are all so smart, anyone wanna gamble? I will bet half my BR that he had QQ or KK. JohnnyCosmo you seem to have a big dick and talk a lotta shit. If u are so smart bet me. I bet he has QQ or KK. Clearly I bet that cuz i folded. But I am willing to bet way more. Let's gamble. Up to 15k. Give me 1.5 to 1. Any takers I will match the bet up to 15k. You can bet $100 to $15,000. We will arrange a mediator. Let me know.

I know poker. This guy has QQ or KK. Challenge me. I lose way less than all of you, and if any of you bet me, I will make money on this hand. You are all retarded. KK or QQ. Bet me.

why are you calling the turn if you think he has QQ. Theres a ton of his range youre ahead of here imo.

I think he has QQ or KK. 60/40.

changing your post makes you look worse not better

I added... I put him on KK or QQ. Because people were questioning the range and no one was giving me the range they put him on.

you said you put him on "one hand and one hand alone"

youre hand is seriously underrepped, i think he can do this with AK figuring you have JJ/TT

Clearly I did not put him on QQ alone. I called a turn bet. I was not trying to hit a two outer. I put him more on QQ than KK, but I also put him on KK. If river is not K, I call all in fast. I have to.

But for real, anyone want to gamble? PLEEEEASE GAMBLE WITH ME. YOU ARE ALL SOOO DUMB. GAMBLE WITH MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Lets go johnny cosmo. U r better than me. Please gamble.

I changed my post to include QQ and KK so that we can gamble. If I am going to gamble, I have to cover myself and take KK as well, because I was fighting against both hands, during the hand. I gave him more credit for QQ, the way it was played. But I still go broke without a K, if he has QQ. But knew I was dead if a K or Q were both out there. It is one of two hands QQ or KK. OBV. Learn to play cards. Gamble with me.

If you are so sure of your "read" why do you make this post in the first place? I dont believe you, you are just trolling, gtfo.

Johnny Cosmo queero grande. R U going to gamble or not? U seem to want to talk shit like u know something. U dont know shit. I got 15k to gamble. Let's gamble.

Maybe you should keep your money for your fag/girl drinks. Nice hair btw.

I forgot, I am supposed to understand that you are taking out your aggression because of your small Asian weiner. I will be more careful.

Would u like to gamble man, who likes other men?

This forum sucks so bad. I crush u fuckin ass holes at the tables. I am completely polite and get punished every time I discuss a hand. I took Raszi for like 8k and got bashed because we made one bad fold. I still think it could have been a good fold and Raszi is too cocky and wants everyone to worship him to admit it. You guys are not good. Big Rob, u play like 1/2. Laughably. Twisted I dont know who the fuck you are. I seriously doubt u make money. Even if u do God punished you with your awful nerdy looking physique and face.

And Johnny Cosmo u are the queerest looking fool I have ever seen.

No longer posting on this forum, but if anyone wants to gamble on this hand, let me know. 15k.

lol Babygrand finally snapped.

Heh Whats the point of asking for opinion and get mad from it? Did you wanna hear "wow good fold, you are amazing!"?

On February 13 2008 14:15 Babygrand wrote: I am completely polite and get punished every time I discuss a hand.

because you're really bad at poker and it's funny. srsly though, you asked for advice and you got it, yw.

I was asking for opinion and got flamed for it. These guys are fucking whacks. I just want to gamble now. Not looking to talk poker. They r fucking retarded and think they r better. SO GAMBLE.

yugless, i make more money than u bro. i promise. so where do u stand now? gamble me. put ur skills to the test.

ok time to pile on
this hilarious blog post needs some love

http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=379926

All i care about is money. Not a forum, not any faggots that think uber trendy forum posting is cool, and definitely not a bunch of 1/2 players that think I blow at cards. I am not mad. I am annoyed that a bunch of suckers that I crush think they can talk to me like a piece of shit.

Most of you play what I talk to call, I have a small dick, but want you to think i have a big dick, poker. U dont think or analyze. You are like a monkey. The two cards in the other persons hand doesnt matter.

I made a good laydown here and a bunch of faggots are pressing me about it. IT'S A GOOD LAYDOWN. That's what is funny about this.

omfg epic tilt

LOL


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

OH NO, THE2/4 CHUMP THAT DOESNT MAKE COCK IS MAKING FUN OF MY BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT AM I GONNA DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have clearly posted more hands than any man should ever think about posting. If you spent half that time improving your game, you might become better. You enjoy this forum way too much. Go outside. There is a world out there. Fuckin loser.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


hahahahahahahahahahaha

and fwiw, yugless is most certainly capable of making a cock

Oh ya, crown royal. God you are too easy. You are such trash I dont even want to respond. Nice trash facial hair. Fuckin scum. You dont even play poker. I MEAN FUCKING SERIOUSLY. .10/.25???????? AND U TALK SHIT TO ME!!!!!!!

Who the fuck r u? LOL. U must be so dumb, how are you working a computer. I built 20k in a week from $200 when I went busto. WHY ARE U POSTING ON A FORUM ABOUT POKER?!?!??!??! If you can't get out of .10/.25, it is fucking time to quit you moron fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone else before I get banned?

Btw, there are some of you I do respect. But these fuckin maggots gotta know.

If anyone missed my blog post last night: http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=410160

I have to lol @ these people

the poker limit you play is so obv relevant to your intellgence

pretty apparent from your posts thats how it all works out

LOOOOL

plz dont ban this comedic genius

Babygrand, here is to help you improve your game:

If you put him exactly on QQ or KK and nothing else. You bet the flop and get the money in. If you can't figure out why, you probably can't beat NL100 in the long run.

It actually sounded better when you put him exactly on QQ... lol

Johnny please gamble with me. It will be fun.

I'll even give you a hint so it's easier to figure out:

Board: Qs 4h 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 65.421% 65.42% 00.00% 5829 0.00 { AhAs }
Hand 1: 34.579% 34.58% 00.00% 3081 0.00 { KK-QQ }

No, your facial hair is a direct correlation to your intelligence. Fucking monkey.

Johnny. Been playing profitable 1/2, 2/4, 3/6, 5/10, and 10/20 for 3 years now. I firmly disagree.

But like I said I only want to gamble with u scums and take ur money now. No more poker talk. PLEASE GOD NO. Another word from one of you maggots and I might start playing like you.

HE DID NOT HAVE ODDS TO CALL WITH ANY HAND PREFLOP

you cannot -evly get your money in here EVER BET THE FLOP fuck

How do you disagree here? Wtf?

Bleh I'm done trying to help... this tard is brainless

OH YA, UR RIGHT, AND THE ONLY FUCKING WAY TO GET HIM IN THE MIDDLE IS TO SHOVE ON THE FLOP. I ALREADY FUCKING SAID I WAS POT CONTROLLING.

Pot controlling disguises the hand. I am afraid of nothing falling. I check here, KK and QQ are going to get into the middle almost every single fucking time. KK can make no miracle fold. If river is a blank, I can call and hand plays out like it should have. But K hit, I can fold easier and save money. NO MORE POKER TALK, GAMBLE TIME. KK OR QQ. UP TO 15K!

Why do you post this hand to begin with if you weren't going to accept any advice on it?

such an unreal joke

If you were pot controlling why did you 4 bet? LOL WTF IS THIS LOGIC OH MY GOD

I wasnt pot controlling preflop you moron fuck. I was pot controlling on the flop because I was no longer smashing his range. He has 2 hands. One he is going to clean house. One I am going to clean house.

how is it that everyone here is a moron fuck when we are all agreeing that you're a dolt?

Fuckin chumps.

I talked to Bonsy. QQ. Saved bunches. This forum is full of lack of intelligent fuck bags. Enjoy yourselves you worms.

K you're right and totally not result oriented obviously...

You might all agree that I am a dolt, but I played it correctly.

So you are all on the same fuckin level. Monkeys. Period. Gain intelligence before learning how to play cards. Done with all of you.

And you played this hand extremely well. :D

babygrand you suck at life

cosmos a donk and has already made more than u'll ever make, and will continue to do so

move up to 10/20 imo

sick sample size with one hand meaning you're always beat here imo

not to mention it's totally in your range to be bluffing that you talked with him and he said he had QQ

the thing is - even though in your mind his hand usually is 2 hands, people randomly do stupid things for no reason which makes the idea of pot controlling the flop dumb (if your trapping then thats differet which means you cant fold on any turn) so basically even if your only putting him on 2 hands it doesnt matter since he in reality will have more because he wont play perfectly off your image of him up to now

and plz simma down now t.t . you can talk down to 2/4 people like i can talk down to you like people can no doubt talk to me and so forth. if you let it bother you where does it stop ~_~

the people that posted here are being nice lol

wait until rekrul posts

LOOOOL

cosmo please own this douche bag hu

On February 13 2008 14:40 CrownRoyal wrote: omfg epic tilt LOL LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL