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SOS USA FTW

On August 20 2007 11:45 Floofy wrote: Go with SOS USA Go with world vision Kory obvious scammer dunno but Talentedtom own

I'm actually surprised that the votes for this option is so low, to be honest.

Once again, I can only deny this accusation, and hopefully when I post proof of my submittals at the end of this month, more people will come around.

SOS-USA's breakdown: http://charitynavigator.org/index.cfm/bay/search.summary/orgid/8016.htm

According to this site, 28% of donations go toward administration/fund raising. I've sent mail to SOS-USA asking for a breakdown...no response yet.

Still, with the end of the month fast-approaching, and a decision needing to be made, we are most likely going with SOS-USA's annual sponsorship program.

Heather Paul CEO of SOS-USA
Compensation: $110,865



This is why I never ever donate ANYTHING to institutes basically.
I know this is all in good cause. But I suggest u all stop spewing money to whores who spend most of their time drawing jesus fish on mini-vans.

well 110k is not really a lot of money for a CEO of a big company, if you want people with skills you have to pay something

On August 20 2007 13:40 Zorglub wrote: well 110k is not really a lot of money for a CEO of a big company, if you want people with skills you have to pay something

Its supposed to be CHARITY not a money making corporation. I understand if someone is willing to devote his life into this so he/she has to make his living on this money on the way. BUT no one needs a 6digit salary to live. And thats only the salary of the CEO. There are lotta other people who make lotta money on your donation. Im also %100 sure everyone here knows people who need money for whatever reason. And Im sure they are WAY more in need of some $$ than the CEO of a charity is in need of a 100k salary.

Also Im %100 sure that most of the people who do the low level dirty jobs in theese companies are volunteers.

My girlfriend has been on the administrative side of the charity biz and I know they are HUGE Rip-offs just like churches.

^ Well, yeah there are bad apples everywhere.

But since we can't fly down to Uganda, and personally hand a ham & cheese sandwich to the kids, it's a risk we've got to take. We can be assured that some money will reach these children, and we can hang our hats on that. They will be better off than they were before...whether or not part of our money is going toward a CEO's salary.

On August 20 2007 14:06 KingKory wrote: ^ Well, yeah there are bad apples everywhere. But since we can't fly down to Uganda, and personally hand a ham & cheese sandwich to the kids, it's a risk we've got to take. We can be assured that some money will reach these children, and we can hang our hats on that. They will be better off than they were before...whether or not part of our money is going toward a CEO's salary.

You dont have to fly to Uganda to find someone in need.

On August 20 2007 14:11 capaneo wrote: You dont have to fly to Uganda to find someone in need.

This is true.

And I'm glad you're donning the mantle of unwavering altruist this afternoon -- you bring up a good point.

However, the slope you're on is a slippery one.

How would you go about finding someone in need?

Give $5 to a homeless guy?

Naw, he'll probably use it for crack.

Toss a few bucks to the homeless shelters!

Negative -- read: your post.

Buy a turkey for a family you know is in need?

This is probably your best bet. But if you're online now, with a PC, an internet connection, and a full belly, chances are you and the people you know are in the upper echelon of the world's class ladder. Even still, this is definitely as close to pure charity as you can get.

Add all of this to the fact that the companies are providing a service to those of us whose sense of philanthropy are not as impassioned as yours, and we come to questioning the entire theory behind organized charities.

Yes, it's true -- right now I can step outside, take a cab across the train tracks, visit project #201, find myself a single mom (who is not addicted to methamphetamines), and buy her a month's supply of diapers. The chances of me actually doing this? Very close to zero. This is why a service exists.


EDIT: I don't want to sound like I think organized charities are the best thing since sliced bread...I'm just saying that it's what we've got to work with right now.

On August 20 2007 12:42 Loco wrote: dumb poll floofy..

my poll was basicelly asking wether to go with SOS usa or world vision but i added 2 trap option to filter out idiots/people with no clue

On August 20 2007 14:54 KingKory wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2007 14:11 capaneo wrote: You dont have to fly to Uganda to find someone in need. This is true. And I'm glad you're donning the mantle of unwavering altruist this afternoon -- you bring up a good point. However, the slope you're on is a slippery one. How would you go about finding someone in need? Give $5 to a homeless guy? Naw, he'll probably use it for crack. Toss a few bucks to the homeless shelters! Negative -- read: your post. Buy a turkey for a family you know is in need? This is probably your best bet. But if you're online now, with a PC, an internet connection, and a full belly, chances are you and the people you know are in the upper echelon of the world's class ladder. Even still, this is definitely as close to pure charity as you can get. Add all of this to the fact that the companies are providing a service to those of us whose sense of philanthropy are not as impassioned as yours, and we come to questioning the entire theory behind organized charities. Yes, it's true -- right now I can step outside, take a cab across the train tracks, visit project #201, find myself a single mom (who is not addicted to methamphetamines), and buy her a month's supply of diapers. The chances of me actually doing this? Very close to zero. This is why a service exists. EDIT: I don't want to sound like I think organized charities are the best thing since sliced bread...I'm just saying that it's what we've got to work with right now.

There's also the fact that 1 dollar sent to africa is worth much more than 1 dollar here, I guess.

On August 20 2007 14:54 KingKory wrote: Show nested quote + On August 20 2007 14:11 capaneo wrote: You dont have to fly to Uganda to find someone in need. This is true. And I'm glad you're donning the mantle of unwavering altruist this afternoon -- you bring up a good point. However, the slope you're on is a slippery one. How would you go about finding someone in need? Give $5 to a homeless guy? Naw, he'll probably use it for crack. Toss a few bucks to the homeless shelters! Negative -- read: your post. Buy a turkey for a family you know is in need? This is probably your best bet. But if you're online now, with a PC, an internet connection, and a full belly, chances are you and the people you know are in the upper echelon of the world's class ladder. Even still, this is definitely as close to pure charity as you can get. Add all of this to the fact that the companies are providing a service to those of us whose sense of philanthropy are not as impassioned as yours, and we come to questioning the entire theory behind organized charities. Yes, it's true -- right now I can step outside, take a cab across the train tracks, visit project #201, find myself a single mom (who is not addicted to methamphetamines), and buy her a month's supply of diapers. The chances of me actually doing this? Very close to zero. This is why a service exists. EDIT: I don't want to sound like I think organized charities are the best thing since sliced bread...I'm just saying that it's what we've got to work with right now.

well I disagree. All Im sayin is that u don't have to find someone who is dyin in need of some $$$. Like I know a family member [a single mom with 2 girls]. They have their own house and car and stuff but I know they can always need some $$$ in their life. The people who u are helping doesn't need to be dying from hunger. When a teenage girl wants a toy from a store thats $100 but the family can't afford it cause "they can save the $$ for better stuff" I think helping them is ALOT better than giving some money to some american organization who is tryin to fill their own pocket WHILE helping poors.

Again I agree that they have to make a living too. Like ur site I know u take %1 and its a small money for the service u provide. I know if u wanna manage $500k a year maybe u have to devote ur full time into this thing thats why u need 50k a year. But will u still take %1 if u get around $100mil of donation a year? Whats the excuse then? You don't need to drive in a Mercedes cause u r a CEO of a company. You don't NEED 100k a year to live unless u want luxury in ur life. And if u want ANY luxury in ur life please stop sayin stuff u don't belive in about people dying in africa.

On August 20 2007 19:30 capaneo wrote: But will u still take %1 if u get around $100mil of donation a year?

I will not be taking more than $5,000/month; no matter how many donations we receive. I probably should add that to the FAQ...I just honestly don't think we'll ever get close to that point ($500,000 donations in one month). I'll definitely add that note in my next build.

On August 20 2007 19:30 capaneo wrote: I know if u wanna manage $500k a year maybe u have to devote ur full time into this thing thats why u need 50k a year.

$500,000 x .01 = $5,000

We'd need well over $5,000,000/year for me to consider making this a full-time job Which isn't really my intentions at all.

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PokerStars Game #11611761128: Tournament #58539969, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/08/21 - 14:06:15 (ET)
Table '58539969 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Bjolle (3210 in chips)
Seat 2: copi (2790 in chips)
Seat 3: brett h (2970 in chips)
Seat 4: Hugobass (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Stimpy444 (2970 in chips)
Seat 6: PROSTOZIDAR (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: Nicolai (1730 in chips)
Seat 8: PlayingN4ked (1860 in chips)
Seat 9: sylvyu (1000 in chips)
Bjolle: posts small blind 10
copi: posts big blind 20

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to PlayingN4ked
brett h: folds
Hugobass: folds
Stimpy444: folds
PROSTOZIDAR: folds
Nicolai: folds
PlayingN4ked : raises 40 to 60
sylvyu: raises 40 to 100
Bjolle: calls 90
copi: folds
PlayingN4ked : calls 40

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $320.00)

   
Bjolle: checks
PlayingN4ked : checks
sylvyu: bets 460
Bjolle: folds
PlayingN4ked : raises 460 to 920
sylvyu: calls 440 and is all-in

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,120.00)

   

River (Pot : $2,120.00)

   

Showdown
PlayingN4ked : shows (a pair of Kings)
sylvyu: shows (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
sylvyu collected 2120 from pot

Summary
Total pot 2120 | Rake 0
Board  
Seat 1: Bjolle (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: copi (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: brett h folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Hugobass folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Stimpy444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PROSTOZIDAR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Nicolai folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PlayingN4ked showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: sylvyu (button) showed and won (2120) with two pair, Aces and Sixes

All Im sayin is that u shouldn't spew ur money to some sterilized broad who spends most of her time drawing jesus fish on mini-vans.

Ty PlayingNaked

On August 21 2007 08:11 KingKory wrote: POKERDONORS.COM BANNER CONTEST - I will be taking $15 of the donations this month for site/domain hosting costs. - My salary so far this month is a whopping $13. - I am going to forfeit my salary in lieu of paying for a nice banner for the site. Height = 70-80px. Width = 450-750px Colors = I'll leave this to you. I want to keep it to 2-3 colors at the most. Motto = "Take a little, give a little" If you can find room for it somewhere on the banner, that would be awesome. Misc = It doesn't need to be super extravagant. As long as the "PokerDonors.Com" is easy to read. Prize = $15 shipped via PayPal, PokerStars, or FTP.

No takers on the banner?!

Um, maybe this has been suggested, but what about donating the money to the Red Cross or something similar? I know it's not exactly the same type of organization, but I'm pretty sure that nobody is getting rich from their donations, and this might inspire more people to donate. Also, they have a reputation for being one of the most helpful charities out there.

On August 22 2007 10:37 twotimesopt wrote: Um, maybe this has been suggested, but what about donating the money to the Red Cross or something similar? I know it's not exactly the same type of organization, but I'm pretty sure that nobody is getting rich from their donations, and this might inspire more people to donate. Also, they have a reputation for being one of the most helpful charities out there.

Hey twotimesopt,

The American Red Cross takes 12-15% per donation for administration/fund raising efforts. capaneo was correct in that 99% of organized charities (especially big ones) will take a cut. And you can be sure that if money is being made, there's someone sitting at the top getting fat off it; if it's not a jesus fish-drawing sterilized broad, it's someone else making way too much money. But we can also be sure that most of our money is going to a great cause.

However, with time running short, and very few actual suggestions being made to me (I think you're the only other person to suggest a charity besides Zorglub), we are going to run with SOS-USA this month.

This can always change next month, of course.

*SITE UPDATES* http://pokerdonors.com

* I've made changes to the Donation Agenda. All references to World Vision have been removed from the site (except for the two children I sponsored at the beginning of the month).

* The FAQ section has been prettied up a bit.