Polk vs Negreanu Poker Grudge Match

Start Date: Nov 1, 2020
No. of Hands: 25,000
Venue: wsop.com
Stakes: 100bb at 200/400, max two tables



Doug Polk vs Daniel Negreanu

Polk vs Negreanu: What Is Happening & How Did We Get Here?
https://upswingpoker.com/polk-vs-negreanu-match/

Odds on Pokershares
https://www.pokershares.com/market/poker/c0baedd8-236b-4bd5-884d-ee1926743070

Doug Polk: -667
Daniel Negreanu: +485

I’ll take Doug willing to give 6:1

+600 for dnegs

I wonder if this will even happen

On October 12 2020 23:37 Jelle wrote: I wonder if this will even happen

It will. Both Doug and Negreanu already agreed, unless one of them flakes out.

are they putting money on the side or is Polk only going to get the 10bb/100 winrate ?

Its pretty wild how Negranu has become so unlikable that he is hated by the community more than ppl like Lederer, Ferguson etc.

Lederer and Ferguson never pretended to be the face of the community nor friends, they just fucked people. Negreanu on the other hand tried to be the most likeable guy ever and then started fucking the community while trying to bluntly say retarded shit to their face. What a complete donkey.

People could swallow the shit he did if he did it out of pure greed, which he did, but his behaviour is what annoyed everyone

Am I the only one who wants to see Negreanu just to see the community get more annoyed?

calling 1st delay, daniels really busy that week, maybe in like 2 weeks

Poll: Which are you more pumped for?
(Vote): Election Results
(Vote): Polk vs Negreanu

Start Date: Nov 1, 2020
No. of Hands: 25,000
Venue: wsop.com
Stakes: 100bb at 200/400, max two tables

o11/1/20 for $47M.... sick pay it out slowly lp

i bet on polk, think he has upwards of 99% chance of winning this match after seeing the first several hands from dnegs.

On November 05 2020 20:30 Stroggoz wrote: i bet on polk, think he has upwards of 99% chance of winning this match after seeing the first several hands from dnegs.

I think with this math kelly suggests you bet huge% of your networth. How hard you going on this?

Pokershares only lets you bet max 5k. Bet most of that today

stream is live now with day 1 of the online sessions

Daniel has 2 options

A) lose millions of $$$ to a guy he hates
B) find a way to back out (pay someone to kill a close family member?)

Even better reply

Did DN steal that chair from his hairdresser?

Last session results - Polk up something like 250k on top of his first day loss so 350k upswing overall. 3 legit coolers vs daniel in allin peflop spots with strong pairs/ace high, and a couple of bad runnouts giving daniel a worse 2 pair where he cant fold.

Daniel had this really weird approach from Day 1 by playing super passive that initially seemed to kind of neutralize Polk's aggression if not giving polk the opportunity to see lots of cheap rivers. But then polk started incorporating lots of overbetting that just wrecked Dan's ranges and got him to pay off big in a lot of key spots.

1k hands and down almost 8 buyins and Polk saying "no biggie", I assume he's just leveling Dan to stay in the game.

they didnt play today.. I thought this was going to be a daily thing.

it's looking like 3 times per week.

They played for 3+ hours today,l hopefully they can add a 3rd table soon.

Where can we see the overall?

On November 19 2020 09:59 Spitfiree wrote: Where can we see the overall?

https://upswingpoker.com/hu4grudge/

Danny made a 220k win last night putting him back in the profit. Didnt see how, from what I gather Polk just kept relentlessly bluffing rivers

Doug ahead by 200k+ now after 5k hands

On November 28 2020 03:45 Baalim wrote: Doug ahead by 200k+ now after 5k hands

600k

Dougie doug ran like a god this last session.

Just to cap off a ridiculous session, the 2nd to last hand he 5b jams 88 into QQ preflop and hits an 8 to win.

People in chat saying doug is currently 3 tabling perkins while he's playing dnegs, can anyone confirm? Wow, looks like it was true. Doug was up 150k vs dnegs at one point (literally within 1 hour of session) but then lost 120k to bill on ACR in a couple of epic pots and immediately did the same vs dnegs who promptly sat out putting Doug -15k for the session.

lmao Doug is +600k halfway through

Looks like Negreanu will lose a good million dollars while trying to defend his honor

Doug doing live stream with some hole cards revealed

I wonder how long before trolling on youtube & twitter is considered an essential part of your poker skillset

dougs strategically kept Daniel in with a lot of allins on like day 3 or 4, Danny boy wont stop now this is gonna be a fun one, Doug mb wins 2m if he gets some breaks..

its all tax purposes doug over 1m bitcoin profit this year dnegs up over 1m poker, they push hard for more at this pace which is why its so friendly in many aspects.

On December 07 2020 02:19 Ryan Neilly wrote: its all tax purposes doug over 1m bitcoin profit this year dnegs up over 1m poker, they push hard for more at this pace which is why its so friendly in many aspects.

Neilly I'm not going to lie, reading your posts hurts my brain

On December 07 2020 18:56 Endo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 07 2020 02:19 Ryan Neilly wrote: its all tax purposes doug over 1m bitcoin profit this year dnegs up over 1m poker, they push hard for more at this pace which is why its so friendly in many aspects. Neilly I'm not going to lie, reading your posts hurts my brain

neilly is on some good drugs lol

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Can someone ban that lame attempt of an SEO link


Also will they continue or will DN take his beaten ass and save himself some money

DN gona continue i'm pretty sure. In an interview he said he'd be willing to play up to 100k hands. Check out the interview on solve for why to see the full extent of his delusion.

I can't ban him all i can do is ask mods to give me a greenstar instead of a bracelet.

Hmm, so polk up 600k but somebody ran EV calc on DN's allin's and he was 400k under EV and did genuinely run like dogshit in plenty of big pots putting him barely 5 BI's behind Doug if you want to look at things that way. I mean heck even 12 honest BI's under EV isnt that big of a deal HU right?

DN said he would wager that coolers are 1 for every 3 times Doug coolers him...

I watched that "Solve for Why" YouTube video and yes the delusions are strong. He is barely starting to understand basic GTO concepts and in some cases butchering things that would surely be elementary for Doug if they are elementary for myself who hasn't played a hand of online poker in 10 years. I would bet that Doug is winning $80/hand and maybe even $100+/hand vs DN at this point. With that said depending on DN's "Team" I could see them getting that number down to below $50/hand.

There was the time in like 2010 (?) where DN was getting coached by "Kingofcards" and "nutsinho" to beat 6 handed 100/200 No Limit Hold Em on PokerStars. "Kingofcards" and "nutsinho" were two of the best at that time and I think DN ended up fairing ok.

"Kingofcards" and "nutsinho," I remember battling those fucking guys. I remember battling that whole fucking crew. That summer in Vegas they were probably all grinding and talking poker hands while we were getting stoned and playing Fifa tournaments to decide who gets 1st pick out of the hookers we had just ordered. I still think our crew was better since our best player was already semi-retired thanks to taking millions out of Prima. Who actually wants to grind online poker anyways?

I was curious so I looked up how they are doing today.

Nutsinho is fucking dead. He overdosed on pain pills. RIP.

Kingofcards bought a sports card shop in Vegas. I think he probably made enough to just chill and do whatever he wants. That's cool. It would have made me sad if he was grinding all the $1,000 tournies around town.

^ epic

lol epic

huge losing session #31 by WCGRider

after match interviews summary

DNegs: I said fuck it, nothing left to lose, let's just click buttons and play like a jackass to increase variance
Polk: I didn't see any major differences in his play today

I hope he doesn't go on some sick heater the last 6.5k hands

If he does the rigtards are gonna go nuts. Already saw several people saying it's the Galfond challenge all over again meant to let Doug run out with a ton of cash in side bets

I hope they can add this to the lab

is DN trolling? His thought process cant be "I have a pair and pairs are hard to make, so like ya know whatever" every single hand.

@newbsaibot just my $0.02 but I think it's almost inconceivable that he isn't on the most monster tilt any human has ever been on

-> I don't think the WCG|Rider hatred is feigned, he's really intensely hated that person for years
-> Is down a lot. It would probably be tilting for him to be down the same amount even against a close friend
-> he probably never sees this kind of volume + variance ever, so it's greatly magnified in his mind. Probably thinks this is an 'unreal' streak of impossible events
-> Remember how he acted on high stakes poker season 1 after getting like 3 bad beats?
-> he's in a unique position of fame where everyone you meet nonstop tells u how amazing you are. Even normal poker players have an exaggerated opinion of their own ability. He may think he's the chosen one
-> he's also on social media doing personal branding and going on tilt gets more views, so he can easily justify tilting to himself by saying 'it's good for the channel anyway' or whatever
-> he's also in a category of people that's likely to be experimenting with drugs / brain altering supplements

I think if Doug started off being down 200k we may have seen some strange behavior / explosions and his Z game also. From DN if anything I expected more insanity than this

About halfway through the video I realized that it probably wasn't actually DN and the video was satire.

Then I loaded the URL and saw it actually was in fact DN.

He was drunk when he recorded the voice over right?

DN said he drank a bottle of wine. I've partied with DN and can confirm he is a lightweight irt the drink (#humblebrag). Yes, he was drunk.

LOL if u guys been following, lots of trash talking going on atm. DP started limping and DN counter by tanking every decision. This cant be anymore entertaining cant.

Scummy move. Limping is a legit strategy. Tanking every single decision is just completely bad mannered

Ye, I was watching that yesterday for a bit, imo Galfond can clearly rule "dont time down as a strategy vs limps", as doug said it's a reasonable strategy to limp 25%, doesn't even have to come into the territory of how long is allowed, Daniel knows when he's doing it and Galfond can judge.

On January 26 2021 21:26 RiKD wrote: DN said he drank a bottle of wine. I've partied with DN and can confirm he is a lightweight irt the drink (#humblebrag). Yes, he was drunk.

this boils down to you being proud of being fatter than a multimillionaire who cares?

On January 28 2021 04:55 lostaccount wrote: LOL if u guys been following, lots of trash talking going on atm. DP started limping and DN counter by tanking every decision. This cant be anymore entertaining cant.

Whats great is DP stopped limping and still beat him for 140k

DP interview begins at 3:20

https://youtu.be/Kog3Pz8bdsQ?t=11960

7 hour session... sess like those and 4 tables and this would have been over in 1 week.

So challenge ended with Doug polk 1.2million winner

just listening to Doug Polk doign some after the challenge talk and he said he had a whole team of people helping him, including players, analysts, poker software people, spreadhseet guys, stats guys.
Like a team of 10 people working with him + two or 3 different softwares.

Wow is that what it takes to play poker these days?
Crazy shit

when the challenged started, daniel had a pair
of testicles that it took to accept the challenge

and he ended the challenge with a flush
of his money down the toilet

lot of truth in trifecta above

Hopefully DN now says he wants to go for 25k hands more

On February 05 2021 10:06 spets1 wrote: So challenge ended with Doug polk 1.2million winner just listening to Doug Polk doign some after the challenge talk and he said he had a whole team of people helping him, including players, analysts, poker software people, spreadhseet guys, stats guys. Like a team of 10 people working with him + two or 3 different softwares. Wow is that what it takes to play poker these days? Crazy shit

jesus christ isn't that cheating in a way? DN might've lost but if that's true then I might have more respect for him now if he didn't really have a "team" going in this challenge.
I remember Isildur1 vs Dwan days when balls was only what was required

DN had his own team as well, they both agreed to it early in the challenge

dnegs benefits a lot more from a team than Polk does, given improvements from having a team are far smaller on Polks side, and Dnegs really only needs to plug basic leaks to have a substatial gain in winrate. Anyone got insights into the upcoming perkins/tice match?

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Lol no one is going to follow unenforceable rules if u can make a lot of money.

On February 23 2021 15:51 twix228 wrote: I think having a team in a game like poker is completely unfair and can even be called cheating. 10 years ago, there was no such thing as a team in poker. On the contrary, people tried to exclude everyone who could help win. Nowadays, on the other hand, a team can use more than 3 devices, including players, analysts, poker software developers, spreadsheet specialists, statistics specialists, to help a member of their team . So I think we should bring back the rules of poker that were established 10 years ago. Today, the stakes are high, and they play for real money or etr token , so you need to adhere to honest rules.

Completely disagree with you. That's like saying Lebron James is cheating because he employs the best nutritionists, physical therepists, etc etc to keep himself at the top of his game. Hell pretty much any competitive sports/competition team/player will have multiple experts helping them out...It's hard to compete at the top gotta get all the edges you can get.

The guy wrote a random comment to plug in a SEO link. He'll never revisit this website

lol

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