So, maybe we aren't all experts but I think most people enjoy films. I am running a bit dry on film inspiration at the moment and thought a thread could be interesting. I don't want this thread to really be favorite movie ever but more so films you think may be a bit different or unique and that you really liked.
The one that is on my mind is:
The Lobster
Memento also came to mind but that maybe a bit too popular for this thread but maybe not. Foreign films, independent films are really what I am looking for.
I highly suggest you check out some iranian filmmakers if you want something original.
Though not really an awesome film per se, Close-up (1990) by Abbas Kiarostami is really thought-provoking and it questions the movie format that one has become so used to seeing. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100234/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Synopsis:
The film tells the story of the real-life trial of a man who impersonated film-maker Mohsen Makhmalbaf, conning a family into believing they would star in his new film. It features the people involved, acting as themselves. (think about that!!!)
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
Cool stuff so far. I may have been a bit too stringent in my first post. It is kind of a hipster topic but if someone has a cool movie just post it who fucking cares if no one has heard about it or not. Of course I don't want mainstream bullshit. Posting Iranian movies is sweet as I would never seek that out and never come in contact with it if it were not for some connection. I am really just looking for something to look forward to and unwind when I get off of work.
I watched "The King and the Mockingbird" last night and thought it was pretty good.
The Party is kind of a goofy one. Lighthearted and made me laugh a lot.
I have been listening to some NIN lately and could go for a David Lynch so tonight it is going to be "Lost Highway." I'll let you all know what I think in a bit.
On August 08 2017 06:41 Baalim wrote:
drop acid, watch Koyaanisqatsi
i wouldnt waste my high by watching a movie. on weed maybe, not acid.
Well I once did it and watched Fantasia 2000 and there was too much "noise" and couldnt concentrate, wasnt the best idea , perhaps a low dosage like 1/4 would be better or shrooms for a movie like that one.
Koyaanisqatsi isnt a regular movie, its just music and images
On August 09 2017 04:41 RiKD wrote:
I have been listening to some NIN lately and could go for a David Lynch so tonight it is going to be "Lost Highway." I'll let you all know what I think in a bit.
"Lost Highway" had some moments but overall it was pretty meh. I would not suggest it.
I'll have to get to some of these other movies but first I will have to figure out how the heck I am going to watch them. If it is not on iTunes or YouTube I am currently out of luck.
Which brings up another point about IMDB ratings. I would never rate "Lost Highway" a 7.6/10 but these angsty teenage nerds love the shit out of it. It's why "Fight Club" is off the charts and the "Lord of the Rings" movies. I am still pretty angsty and also nerdy in a lot of ways but I think I have grown out of my teens. "Fight Club" is a great movie that I enjoy. I don't like the "Lord of the Rings" movies. I just wanted to say something about IMDB ratings and I maybe kind of wish I just would not have gotten into it.
On August 09 2017 07:28 RiKD wrote:
Which brings up another point about IMDB ratings. I would never rate "Lost Highway" a 7.6/10 but these angsty teenage nerds love the shit out of it. It's why "Fight Club" is off the charts and the "Lord of the Rings" movies. I am still pretty angsty and also nerdy in a lot of ways but I think I have grown out of my teens. "Fight Club" is a great movie that I enjoy. I don't like the "Lord of the Rings" movies. I just wanted to say something about IMDB ratings and I maybe kind of wish I just would not have gotten into it.
the lord of the rings is crap, the mythology is amazing and interesting overall but the movie is awful, cliché and for kids, like superhero movies, we are all nerds but come on, have some fucking taste
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Aug 09 2017 15:56. Posts 5296
Right i'll name some movies that very few have seen but are very good.
IMO this is the best war movie ever made-or that i have seen, yet almost no one has heard of it: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/ 'come and see'
Pretty interesting reading up on it, apparently the main actor was hypnotized for one scene so they wouldn't be traumitized, and they used real bullets in the shooting scenes. Utterly horrifying movie that makes schindlers list look mild in comparison, and it will make you question all hollywood war movies a bit more, even if you do already.
Recently saw http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285861/ 'owning mahowny.' Box office flop but the acting in it is 10/10. Good movie about degen gambling, byrnesam recommended it to me about 6 years ago but i just got round to watching it now.
The human condition, a 9 hour movie made in japan in the 1950's, about a japanese socialist who gets put in charge of a japanese concentration camp in manchuria, ww2. ; he is constantly conflicted over choices between humanity, survival, and moral principles. Another very good war movie.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On August 09 2017 07:28 RiKD wrote:
Which brings up another point about IMDB ratings. I would never rate "Lost Highway" a 7.6/10 but these angsty teenage nerds love the shit out of it. It's why "Fight Club" is off the charts and the "Lord of the Rings" movies. I am still pretty angsty and also nerdy in a lot of ways but I think I have grown out of my teens. "Fight Club" is a great movie that I enjoy. I don't like the "Lord of the Rings" movies. I just wanted to say something about IMDB ratings and I maybe kind of wish I just would not have gotten into it.
the lord of the rings is crap, the mythology is amazing and interesting overall but the movie is awful, cliché and for kids, like superhero movies, we are all nerds but come on, have some fucking taste
yeah. i find the ralph bakshi one more engaging. too bad they didnt have the budget to finish it.
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traxamillion United States. Aug 10 2017 06:47. Posts 10468
On August 08 2017 14:05 uiCk wrote:
Half way through this
thanks for pointing me towards this; looks up my alley
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traxamillion United States. Aug 10 2017 06:53. Posts 10468
another good philip seymour hoffman is "before the devil knows your dead" - prob shoulda been nominated for an oscar but it was a strong year with no country and there will be blood so it was overshadowed in the genre.
of course The Master is another great PSH (and phoenix) movie.
Inside Lleweyn Davis is one of my favorite movies; I really vibe with the main character.
Hell or High Water was the best movie last year. Ben was amazing
so many others. I'll think about it
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traxamillion United States. Aug 10 2017 06:54. Posts 10468
Oh and if you like Memento you will love Primer if you haven't seen it.
Once Upon a Time in America is a great Epic. Make sure you watch the correct version; the theatrical release was a disaster.
A very recent movie i liked worth a watch was "Shot Caller"
On August 10 2017 05:54 traxamillion wrote:
Once Upon a Time in America is a great Epic. Make sure you watch the correct version; the theatrical release was a disaster.
the 3hr long one? yeah, it great. the soundtrack is superb.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On August 08 2017 06:41 Baalim wrote:
drop acid, watch Koyaanisqatsi
Yes go and take a drug that makes you hyper suggestible and go in a semi hypnotic state by passively observing a television. Before psychedelics were called that they were called psychotomimetic and no one had experiences like today they are suggestegens! Not that koyanisqaatsi is bad haven't seen it like Phillip Glass though.
My point is that when watching a movie you are already in a suggestible state to the message and subliminals because you are passive adding LSD it would be amplified but that koyaanisqaatsi doesnt look as bad as standard Hollywood garbage though.
I have tried mushrooms when I was 14 I was expecting a spiritual experience because I did read up on it quite a lot on the net. I had a bad trip which ended as a good trip I sensed someone in the family would die and then when 'good trip' arrived listening to music from flaming lips. It was gay and I thought I was psychic because someone did die in the family not long after this is an example of how this shit fucks with people. Only good thing to come out of it was while bad trip we were watching friends and since then my interest in fictional TV never was the same since I saw through the acting or some shit. I was hyper sensitive to the lyrics in the music this is how the 60's revolution happened all those people were hyper suggestible and the results speak for themselves. But it's complicated yes but before they started to suggest that there was anything spiritual about these substances people didn't react that way http://www.gnosticmedia.com/Entheogen...hedelicSpirituality_SocialControl_CIA https://webbrain.com/brainpage/brain/6FBA86B0-0C57-9FCA-5CF9-D742DA541AAA#-4411
You don't make any sense. You say psychedelics makes you highly "suggestible", but in your case (watching Friends), it was the opposite?
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
Don't try to make sense out of anything he says. Have you guys never read his posts before? From his point of view, he broke out of the Matrix while we're all brainwashed by the NWO so we can't see the truth behind all the conspiracies he's aware of. This is what he believes in:
Which one of these guys are you Mortensen? Or did you not attend this year?
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Uick maybe that is a delusion that it was caused by friends but I don't think that friends would be something that would resonate very much or have a message and it was what started the bad trip maybe you have to embrace it like most people do when they go to concerts or watch a good movie. It's not just what you do while on it it is also what you expect. When hoffman took it for the first time there is nothing about anything spiritual just bad trip nightmare situation the ecstatic high is something that a schizophrenic also has but to him it's not nice since the trip lasts forever. And the notion that tribal cultures took it for spirituality is also wrong it was used for people that were going to be sacrificed and also just sickness and shit. So the hallucinations and psychotic state is real the spiritual aspect is a modern invention and since they put you in a highly suggestible state it has worked. To make someone go insane on LSD is also easy.
Rear naked woke
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Stroggoz New Zealand. Aug 12 2017 00:28. Posts 5296
well this thread turned to shit quickly!
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
On August 11 2017 20:54 Loco wrote:
Don't try to make sense out of anything he says. Have you guys never read his posts before? From his point of view, he broke out of the Matrix while we're all brainwashed by the NWO so we can't see the truth behind all the conspiracies he's aware of. This is what he believes in:
Which one of these guys are you Mortensen? Or did you not attend this year?
like, literally he watches this idiot? holy shit that explains a lot haha.
Mortenson you are retarded, shamans did take hallucinogens in mesoamerica, its perfectly documented in fact tribe still do ayahuasca en Perú, and in México some do shrooms/peyote, as usual you are out of your depth
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hoylemj United States. Aug 12 2017 03:14. Posts 840
Whatever I don't know why I even argue with you guys anymore with all your riveting ad homs haha so pointless oh well at least I warned you peace out hopefully my last post! Here I'll leave you with this get woke faggots
Epsilons (singing)
No more Mammy, no more Pappy:
Ain't we lucky, ain't we happy?
Everybody's oh so happy,
Everybody's happy now!
Sex galore, but no more marriages;
No more pushing baby carriages;
No one has to change a nappy–
Ain't we lucky, ain't we happy:
Everybody's happy now.
Dope for tea and dope for dinner,
Fun all night, and love and laughter;
No remorse, no morning after.
Where's the sin, and who's the sinner?
Everybody's happy now.
Girls pneumatic, girls exotic,
Girls ecstatic, girls erotic–
Hug me, Baby; make it snappy.
Everybody's oh so happy,
Everybody's happy now.
Lots to eat and hours for drinking
Soma cocktails–no more thinking.
NO MORE THINKING, NO MORE THINKING!
Everybody's happy now.[126]
~ Aldous Huxley
Which one of these guys are you Mortensen? Or did you not attend this year?
Sike!
I would much rather hang out with these fine aristocratic autiste gentlemen than any of you bland normalfags.
Psychedelic substances like ayahuasca create a state of hypersuggestibility in which persons are very open to being influenced by others. Many traditional cultures have utilized this condition to inculcate cultural values and behaviors in young people as they receive initiation into adulthood. In the West, countercultural values can be inculcated in young people when using these psychedelics, especially when using them in an antinomian context.[129]
~ Marlene Dobkin de Rios
traxamillion United States. Aug 12 2017 10:07. Posts 10468
On August 12 2017 01:28 Loco wrote:
Finally got around to watching Manchester by the Sea. Damn. Just damn. What a beautiful movie. Basically flawless.
Yea was gonna mention that but figured everyone had already seen it and knew about it. Matt such a better actor than his brother; played that perfectly. The wife was great too. That scene towards the end when he runs into ex wife and her friend pushing the stroller... dam. Best movie last year honestly probably above he'll or high water but I'd put those 1-2
You speak on psychedelics based on bs you've read and 1 experience at 14 years old. Your post reeks of ignorance. They can be very enlightening as well as spiritual. No other way to experience true ego loss like that AFAIK. You aren't really in some suggestible state and they sure as he'll never influenced a whole generation in the 60s. That whole counterculture thing was more of a response to Vietnam etc. and societal norms at that time. The drugs were a byproduct or aspect of the culture movement but certainly not a cause and any credit they are given as an influence since then in literature or what not is largely BS anti-drug propaganda or simply misinformed opinion.
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traxamillion United States. Aug 12 2017 10:08. Posts 10468
Yea the 2nd is the most well received and acclaimed of the 3 films by far
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traxamillion United States. Aug 12 2017 10:24. Posts 10468
The philosophy behind Aldous Huxley's work and the mechanics of Soma in Brave New World is quite literally the opposite of that of hallucinogens.
Soma is a form of chemical control implemented by the government. It is addictive and regulates behavior in a predictable fashion. It even controls lifespan. Relating to our world the fictional drug Soma would be closest to Opiod narcotics and maybe Benzos.
The only similarities to hallucinogens are that they are both technically drugs. Mushrooms and LSD are completely non-toxic in the body; no long term health effects even from sustained use and an absurdly high LD50 to where overdose is nearly impossible (people have mistaken pure LSD for heroin and done massive IV injection - thousands of doses at once - and made full recoveries after it wore off). These substances are mind altering in that they can expand awareness and allow people to think outside of their normal frames of reference. The government would prefer people conform to the control systems they implement and have indoctrinated us to participate in from childhood. For these reasons they are made highly illegal - quite opposite from your proposition that they are themselves agents of control.
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hoylemj United States. Aug 13 2017 01:20. Posts 840
On August 12 2017 01:28 Loco wrote:
Finally got around to watching Manchester by the Sea. Damn. Just damn. What a beautiful movie. Basically flawless.
Agreed.
Also really liked Arrival but I feel like everyone has probably already seen it.
ww2 type propagandistic caricatures may occasionally work on morons but mortensen is prob the only one left in lp that could be drawn by something like that
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
I am in need of movies but I also have some time to give back. Here are some movies Loco suggested that qualify for this thread:
2001: A Space Odyssey
Un homme qui dort
Persona
The Seventh Seal
Teorema
Stalker
3-Iron
Before Sunset
Dogville
Fargo
The Tenant
(I just thought of The Apartment)
Manchester by the Sea
Mommy
Quatre nuits d'un reveur (Four Nights of a Dreamer)
Vivre sa vie: Film en douze tableaux (My Life to Live)
Seven Samurai
Oldboy
25th Hour
Apocalypse Now
Before Sunrise
Eyes Wide Shut
Inglorious Basterdsd
The Lobster
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Oslo, 31. august
Shawshank Redemption
The Shining
There Will Be Blood
WALL-E
Whiplash
Blue is the Warmest Color
The whole list is expansive and I have not seen a lot of the movies especially many of the foreign ones but these are ones I have seen and really enjoyed.
Ok I wont allow any more derailing from the towns idiot or any other comment related to allucinogens/politics, make a thread if you want to talk about it
Temp bans will be given to anyone not listening without warning just because I feel like making an unnecesary display of power
Irreversible is a really great film. Part of it is I love Monica Belluci and Vincent Cassel but it is the camera work and the story. I also love Thomas Bangalter. It has parts depravity, brutality, and existential artistry. The camera work takes some getting used to but it is an interesting way to get some cool shots. The brutality there is likely no getting used to it but it is important to the film. I think I might be getting on the Gaspar Noe train. I want more cinema like that.
Seul contre tous (I Stand Alone) is another great existential stroll with Gaspar Noe. It is about a tilty guy who has about had it with people and culture. Many humans are simply surviving. Surviving means to fight. We are all alone living in dark tunnels. Will our hero find any salvation?
On August 16 2017 06:19 RiKD wrote:
Irreversible is a really great film. Part of it is I love Monica Belluci and Vincent Cassel but it is the camera work and the story. I also love Thomas Bangalter. It has parts depravity, brutality, and existential artistry. The camera work takes some getting used to but it is an interesting way to get some cool shots. The brutality there is likely no getting used to it but it is important to the film. I think I might be getting on the Gaspar Noe train. I want more cinema like that.
Irreversible is amazing, the "rectum" scene is so claustrofobic and frantic, the sound makes all the difference, also the rape scene is so brutal and long but its important because it makes you also want revenge
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TianYuan Korea (South). Aug 20 2017 10:31. Posts 6817
On August 10 2017 05:54 traxamillion wrote:
Oh and if you like Memento you will love Primer if you haven't seen it.
Once Upon a Time in America is a great Epic. Make sure you watch the correct version; the theatrical release was a disaster.
A very recent movie i liked worth a watch was "Shot Caller"
Also have to recommend the very recent Korean movie Taxi Unjeon-sa (A Taxi Driver), it is really good.
Some other korean movies that are more/less known, but I would recommend:
Amsal (Assassination) - set during Japanese occupation of Korea. This is one of my favorite Korean movies ever, just super stylish with interesting characters and pretty much no dumb or boring parts. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3501416/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Busan haeng (Train to Busan) - more famous I think. Zombie movie set on a train. Not super special but solid genre flick worth watching. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5700672/?ref_=nv_sr_1
EDIT: Korean characters not showing up -.- I guess I'll romanize the titles.
I need the hookup. To feel it in my veins... in my being.
Where can I watch "I am Cuba" (1964)?
I can ask the same question for a lot of foreign films. I need my hit.
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TianYuan Korea (South). Aug 22 2017 06:41. Posts 6817
How the hell has City of God not been mentioned once in this thread... I assume everyone has seen it but there's a decent number of recommendations in here that are also 'everybody should have seen this already' movies.
Hm.. Off-suite socks..
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traxamillion United States. Aug 23 2017 06:33. Posts 10468
I've had The Lobster sitting on my computer for quite a while and finally got around to watching it because of this thread. Enjoyed the movie quite a bit; likely Colin's best role (In Bruges is good too but he more plays himself in that)
The Intouchables is actually the only meaningful comedy which I think I've ever seen and should definitely be in the thread. The french version, as they are making a Hollywood one, which will most definitely suck balls
Also +1 City of Gods, that's supposedly based on true events, which I believe considering the things that happen in the ghettos in Brazil.
I watched Amour (2012) last night. It is a movie about life, strokes, and death and really well done. I think some people will be interested in a film like that and others just won't be. I really liked it.
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PoorUser United States. Aug 29 2017 18:39. Posts 7471
going the other way, if anyone was interested in the netflix deathnote movie, dont watch it. it was awful.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On August 29 2017 21:21 RiKD wrote:
What about Deathnote the tv show?
I rewatched it after many years to see how it holds up. It's pretty good, you have to suspend your disbelief in many occasions though. At some point, + Show Spoiler +
after a main character dies,
around episode 25 I believe, the show becomes realllyyy bad and I had to stop watching soon after.
I also rewatched Monster. It's very good.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
I feel like Eraserhead could be a really good watch for some people. I was in kind of a tired, crummy mood last night that didn't really jive with watching that kind of movie but there were a lot of parts that were pretty priceless. Just the whole feel of the movie. You are not going to find that in Hollywood. David Lynch was like let's make a fucking movie and he most certainly did.
On August 29 2017 21:21 RiKD wrote:
What about Deathnote the tv show?
I rewatched it after many years to see how it holds up. It's pretty good, you have to suspend your disbelief in many occasions though. At some point, + Show Spoiler +
after a main character dies,
around episode 25 I believe, the show becomes realllyyy bad and I had to stop watching soon after.
I thought it starts going a bit downhill with all the Yotsube stuff but it is hard to keep a story like that going. How great is L though? Seriously, such a great character. I may continue watching to see how this N and the ginger stuff develops but it's not like they are going to replace L. Impossible.
My Summer of Love was good. There is a scene where they are smoking cigarettes, drinking cognac, and dancing to Edith Piaf. That is my shit! They are just generally doing awesome things, getting into things. Mona is a bit naive but a bit fun and crazy. Tamsin is the cultured provocateur who is a little bit fucked up. Mona's brother is the formerly jailed violent criminal who is now a born again douche. It's all a lot of fun.
I see you're still wading through my ratings list. A new addition as of yesterday: Bicycle Thieves. My first Italian neorealism film. Fairly short movie about a guy who can't find a job in post-WW2 Rome. He has two kids and a wife to his charge. He ends up being lucky getting a job posting advertisements around the city. Many other people want the job but he ends up getting it first. The one requirement is that you need a bike. He gets his bike back from the pawn shop, starts working, but his bike is stolen after the first day of work and so he has to find it or his family will starve. It's a harsh movie about the tragedy and unfairness of life, executed masterfully.
"There is a remedy for all things except death."
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
No. Looks like a polarizing one. I like Jennifer Lawrence and Javier Bardem. I don't really go out to the movies though. I don't really know why not. I would rather see a movie in a theatre and don't mind if I have to go alone. I think it is mostly that I don't like a lot of movies. I would have loved to watch Manchester by the Sea in theaters for example but I just would not have known about it. I don't keep track of those things.
The fact that a lot of people really don't like it I don't know exactly what that means. It could be a good thing.
On September 22 2017 02:15 RiKD wrote:
No. Looks like a polarizing one. I like Jennifer Lawrence and Javier Bardem. I don't really go out to the movies though. I don't really know why not. I would rather see a movie in a theatre and don't mind if I have to go alone. I think it is mostly that I don't like a lot of movies. I would have loved to watch Manchester by the Sea in theaters for example but I just would not have known about it. I don't keep track of those things.
The fact that a lot of people really don't like it I don't know exactly what that means. It could be a good thing.
I've heard its progressive propaganda, but I have no clue, its Arnofsky so I'll definitelly watch it and decide for myself
Well the "progressive propaganda " (lol Baal) is that the movie is a metaphor of us destroying earth
But IMO is mostly irrelevant as it's extremely vague metaphor that I only knew about after the fact.
It's like watching a demolition of a building and saying it symbolizes death and old age. "Ah ok. Cool. Nice demolition though".
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
@rkid
I go to the movies 1-2 times a week, mostly alone because I prefer too. I like my back corners in theaters, crappy cinema that no one goes to (being alone in a theater room is the nuts). I have one buddy I go with a good chunk of the time with, since we share the same pleasures/rules. going with others is tidious, since they usually want to sit in the middle, usually next to other randomos. Ask stupid questions during movies, don't respect the comfort of an empty seat in between (think of the arm rests bruhs) and most importantly, if one doesn't enjoys the movie, it can ruin it for the other.
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On September 22 2017 02:15 RiKD wrote:
No. Looks like a polarizing one. I like Jennifer Lawrence and Javier Bardem. I don't really go out to the movies though. I don't really know why not. I would rather see a movie in a theatre and don't mind if I have to go alone. I think it is mostly that I don't like a lot of movies. I would have loved to watch Manchester by the Sea in theaters for example but I just would not have known about it. I don't keep track of those things.
The fact that a lot of people really don't like it I don't know exactly what that means. It could be a good thing.
I've heard its progressive propaganda, but I have no clue, its Arnofsky so I'll definitelly watch it and decide for myself
Oh, I didn't know it was Arnosky. Odds are it's good. I love Arnosky.
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