UFC 204: Bisping vs. Henderson 2

Date: Saturday, October 8th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:59 LP.net / 4pm PST / 7pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (PPV)

Michael Bisping (29-7) vs. Dan Henderson (32-14) (Middleweight Championship)
Vitor Belfort (25-12) vs. Gegard Mousasi (39-6-2) (Middleweight)
Ovince Saint Preux (19-8) vs. Jimi Manuwa (15-2) (Light Heavyweight)
Stefan Struve (27-8) vs. Daniel Omielanczuk (19-5-1) (Heavyweight)
Mirsad Bektic (10-0) vs. Russell Doane (14-6) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Iuri Alcantara (32-7) vs. Brad Pickett (25-11) (Bantamweight)
Damian Stasiak (9-3) vs. Davey Grant (10-2) (Bantamweight)
Leon Edwards (11-3) vs. Albert Tumenov (17-3) (Welterweight)
Lukasz Sajewski (13-2) vs. Marc Diakiese (9-0) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Danny Roberts (13-1) vs. Mike Perry (8-0) (Welterweight)
Leonardo Santos (15-3-1) vs. Adriano Martins (28-7) (Lightweight)

Other

- In order for the event to be broadcast live during Prime time hours on the east coast of North America, the main card is expected to begin at 3:00 am (October 9) local time in Manchester (GMT), with a full preliminary card beginning at approximately 11:00 pm (October 8) local time. Despite the very late starting time, ticket demand was exceptionally high, as all tickets for the venue sold out in a matter of minutes.
- The event is expected to be headlined by a UFC Middleweight Championship fight between current champion Michael Bisping and the former Pride Welterweight, Pride Middleweight and former Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion Dan Henderson. The pairing met previously in July 2009 at UFC 100 with Henderson taking the victory via second round highlight reel knockout.
- A bantamweight bout between Brad Pickett and Iuri Alcantara was previously linked to UFC Fight Night: Arlovski vs. Barnett. However, it is now expected to be contested at this event.
- Ruslan Magomedov was expected to face Stefan Struve at this event, but pulled out on September 9 due to a staph infection. Struve will now face Daniel Omielanczuk.
- Arnold Allen was scheduled to face Mirsad Bektic at the event. However, Allen pulled out of the fight on 29 September for undisclosed reasons. He was replaced by Jeremy Kennedy.
- Lukasz Sajewski replaced Reza Madadi on 6 days notice and will fight the UFC newcomer, Marc Diakiese.
- Arnold Allen was scheduled to face Mirsad Bektic at the event. However, Allen pulled out of the fight on 29 September for undisclosed reasons. Jeremy Kennedy was briefly linked as the replacement. Subsequently, just hours after his participation was publicly confirmed, Kennedy indicated he was injured and unable to fight. Bektic will now face Russell Doane.

First impression of the match-ups:

• Henderson > Bisping
• Mousasi > Belfort
• Manuwa > OSP
• Omielanczuk > Struve
• Bektic > Kennedy
• Pickett > Alcantara
• Font > Entwistle
• Grant > Stasiak
• Tumenov > Edwards
• Roberts > Perry
• Martins > Santos
• Sajewski vs. Diakiese (dunno)

Just gimme this one for free Dana – hard to be excited about this when 205 is just after it.

Bisping was such an idiot on his last fight vs Hendo it wouldnt surprise me if he gets caught by that right hook again... its the same thing that with Nelson if they KO you with just a clean right its because you fought like an idiot.

Marc "Bonecrusher" Diakiese

-23 years old, 9-0 undefeated record (4 kos/1sub)
-2 time BAMMA lightweight champ
-Lots of amateur titles wins and 2-time Lonsdale boxing champ.
-purple belt BJJ
-Started in 2010 only
-Beaten UK cans early on including a guy called wolverine with 37 losses
-Should note his last 3 opponents looked solid all having 8-1 type records on average
-trains with UFC's Scott Askham

Last fight:



2nd last fight:



3rd last fight:



HL 2016 reel:




Expected to be the faster, have better foot movement, and boxing than Sajewski. He'll also be the hometown fighter.

ME will be at 5am local, thats gotta change things for them

I forgot that Jeremy Kennedy pulled out of his fight last week.

Russell Doane will replace Kennedy on 3.5 days notice and fight Mirsad Bektic.

Doane lives and trains in Hawaii and will be on his way to England asap.

It's also worth mentioning that Doane is on a three-fight losing streak and has nothing to lose by taking this fight, and everything to gain.

Manuwa and picket are underdogs :O +140 and +145. I am betting on those for sure and maybe on Hendo by KO +265

On October 03 2016 06:22 Baalim wrote: Bisping was such an idiot on his last fight vs Hendo it wouldnt surprise me if he gets caught by that right hook again... its the same thing that with Nelson if they KO you with just a clean right its because you fought like an idiot.

Hendo is just so bad though. He could have easily be 1-8 in his last 9.

Will be interesting to see how this whole MW thing plays out. Cheering for Hendo for obvious reasons, but I also think it'd be the best for the division if he won and retired and Weidman/Romero winner could fight Luke/Jacare winner. Who knows if Hendo would even retire anyways though.

On October 07 2016 06:15 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On October 03 2016 06:22 Baalim wrote: Bisping was such an idiot on his last fight vs Hendo it wouldnt surprise me if he gets caught by that right hook again... its the same thing that with Nelson if they KO you with just a clean right its because you fought like an idiot. Hendo is just so bad though. He could have easily be 1-8 in his last 9. Will be interesting to see how this whole MW thing plays out. Cheering for Hendo for obvious reasons, but I also think it'd be the best for the division if he won and retired and Weidman/Romero winner could fight Luke/Jacare winner. Who knows if Hendo would even retire anyways though.

yeah I mean, Bisping has to be the favourite I just cant root for him, he is the most unskilled UFC champ in a long time, in his defense he seems to fight smarter, at his beggining he looked like a smart technical grinder but he made so many mistakes, now he seems he matured.

I dont think Hendo retires as the Champ, theres too much money to be made for him.

On October 07 2016 07:39 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 07 2016 06:15 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On October 03 2016 06:22 Baalim wrote: Bisping was such an idiot on his last fight vs Hendo it wouldnt surprise me if he gets caught by that right hook again... its the same thing that with Nelson if they KO you with just a clean right its because you fought like an idiot. Hendo is just so bad though. He could have easily be 1-8 in his last 9. Will be interesting to see how this whole MW thing plays out. Cheering for Hendo for obvious reasons, but I also think it'd be the best for the division if he won and retired and Weidman/Romero winner could fight Luke/Jacare winner. Who knows if Hendo would even retire anyways though. yeah I mean, Bisping has to be the favourite I just cant root for him, he is the most unskilled UFC champ in a long time, in his defense he seems to fight smarter, at his beggining he looked like a smart technical grinder but he made so many mistakes, now he seems he matured. I dont think Hendo retires as the Champ, theres too much money to be made for him.

Calling Bisping the most unskilled champ in a long time is unfair, and it's also wrong.

Skills for skills, Bisping is better than Eddie Alvarez.

Eddie is a mediocre wrestler who gets overrated in this area. His pot-shot boxing doesn't work anymore at the highest level, which is why he hasn't used it in the UFC after Cerrone fucked him up in his debut. He doesn't really have any BJJ skills aside from the same chokes everyone can do like an RnC and guillotine. His cardio is usually good, but it has looked bad in certain fights. He doesn't use kicks much, and he's known for getting rocked and recovering.

Bisping has better movement, he's faster, better overall technical striking, better MMA wrestling (offensive/defensive, imo), better cardio, way higher striking output, and we don't really know how good his BJJ is cuz of his good TDD. Over his last few fights, Bisping has started faster, which used to be his biggest issue. He also has better movement and striking defense, which is why his rematch against Hendo looks worse for Hendo this time around cuz he has less outs.

I mean I dunno how you could say that when Bisping has basically 1 good win which everyone considers a fluke while Eddie has beaten RDA, Pettis, Gil, Chandler, Kawajiri in his prime..

I think they're probably close skills wise, but Eddie is a lot better at putting it all together and winning.

No way Hendo retires if he wins, he will defend his belt until he loses it (his first defense is the most probably scenario) and then he will retire imo. He can make millions defending his title.

both eddie and bisping are shit belt warmers and you guys know it. Hendo has a great chance against pillowfists mcgee, Conor will KO that midget Alvarez, dat small chin isn't absorbing Conors strikes well at all.

Bets:

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On October 08 2016 20:32 soberstone wrote: Bets: (If my $5 to win 400K hits, I'll take everyone out for ice cream) + Show Spoiler + 400278165-1 10/8/16 4:30pm $20.00 $38.10 Pending 2 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos 400277951-1 10/8/16 4:29pm $16.10 $38.80 Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2011 Martins wins by 3 round decision +241* vs Not Martins by 3 round decision 400277464-1 10/8/16 4:27pm $5.00 $424,808.40 Pending 11 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1009 Bisping wins inside distance -122* vs Not Bisping inside distance Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1127 Mousasi wins by submission +330* vs Any other result Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1233 Manuwa wins by TKO/KO +260* vs Any other result Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1311 Struve wins by 3 round decision +323* vs Not Struve by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1409 Bektic wins inside distance -111* vs Not Bektic inside distance Pending 10/8/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1511 Pickett wins by 3 round decision +196* vs Not Pickett by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1611 Grant wins by 3 round decision +150* vs Not Grant by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Edwards wins by 3 round decision +340* vs Not Edwards by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1840 Diakiese (scorecards = no action) -289* vs Sajewski (scorecards = no action) Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1905 Roberts wins inside distance +151* vs Not Roberts inside distance Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2011 Martins wins by 3 round decision +241* vs Not Martins by 3 round decision 400276791-1 10/8/16 4:23pm $10.00 $28.70 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Jimi Manuwa +135* vs Ovince Saint Preux Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane 400276477-1 10/8/16 4:21pm $10.00 $62.46 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Edwards wins by 3 round decision +340* vs Not Edwards by 3 round decision 400276144-1 10/8/16 4:20pm $10.00 $51.76 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Vitor Belfort +275* vs Gegard Mousasi Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane 400275897-1 10/8/16 4:18pm $25.00 $162.93 Pending 5 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Stefan Struve -175* vs Daniel Omielanczuk Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos 400275705-1 10/8/16 4:16pm $5.00 $4,434.32 Pending 11 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Vitor Belfort +275* vs Gegard Mousasi Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Jimi Manuwa +135* vs Ovince Saint Preux Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Stefan Struve -175* vs Daniel Omielanczuk Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1502 Brad Pickett +120* vs Iuri Alcantara Pending 10/8/16 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Davey Grant -185* vs Damian Stasiak Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1702 Leon Edwards +190* vs Albert Tumenov Pending 10/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Marc Diakiese -275* vs Lukasz Sajewski Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos

You think Leon Edwards is going to win his fight?

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My final picks:

• Bisping > Henderson
• Mousasi > Belfort
• Manuwa > OSP
• Omielanczuk > Struve
• Bektic > Doane
• Pickett > Alcantara
• Grant > Stasiak
• Tumenov > Edwards
• Roberts > Perry
• Santos > Martins
• Diakiese > Sajewski

On October 08 2016 21:10 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2016 20:32 soberstone wrote: Bets: (If my $5 to win 400K hits, I'll take everyone out for ice cream) + Show Spoiler + 400278165-1 10/8/16 4:30pm $20.00 $38.10 Pending 2 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos 400277951-1 10/8/16 4:29pm $16.10 $38.80 Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2011 Martins wins by 3 round decision +241* vs Not Martins by 3 round decision 400277464-1 10/8/16 4:27pm $5.00 $424,808.40 Pending 11 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1009 Bisping wins inside distance -122* vs Not Bisping inside distance Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1127 Mousasi wins by submission +330* vs Any other result Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1233 Manuwa wins by TKO/KO +260* vs Any other result Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1311 Struve wins by 3 round decision +323* vs Not Struve by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1409 Bektic wins inside distance -111* vs Not Bektic inside distance Pending 10/8/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1511 Pickett wins by 3 round decision +196* vs Not Pickett by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1611 Grant wins by 3 round decision +150* vs Not Grant by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Edwards wins by 3 round decision +340* vs Not Edwards by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1840 Diakiese (scorecards = no action) -289* vs Sajewski (scorecards = no action) Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1905 Roberts wins inside distance +151* vs Not Roberts inside distance Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2011 Martins wins by 3 round decision +241* vs Not Martins by 3 round decision 400276791-1 10/8/16 4:23pm $10.00 $28.70 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Jimi Manuwa +135* vs Ovince Saint Preux Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane 400276477-1 10/8/16 4:21pm $10.00 $62.46 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Edwards wins by 3 round decision +340* vs Not Edwards by 3 round decision 400276144-1 10/8/16 4:20pm $10.00 $51.76 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Vitor Belfort +275* vs Gegard Mousasi Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane 400275897-1 10/8/16 4:18pm $25.00 $162.93 Pending 5 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Stefan Struve -175* vs Daniel Omielanczuk Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos 400275705-1 10/8/16 4:16pm $5.00 $4,434.32 Pending 11 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Vitor Belfort +275* vs Gegard Mousasi Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Jimi Manuwa +135* vs Ovince Saint Preux Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Stefan Struve -175* vs Daniel Omielanczuk Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1502 Brad Pickett +120* vs Iuri Alcantara Pending 10/8/16 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Davey Grant -185* vs Damian Stasiak Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1702 Leon Edwards +190* vs Albert Tumenov Pending 10/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Marc Diakiese -275* vs Lukasz Sajewski Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos You think Leon Edwards is going to win his fight? ---------- My final picks: • Bisping > Henderson • Mousasi > Belfort • Manuwa > OSP • Omielanczuk > Struve • Bektic > Doane • Pickett > Alcantara • Grant > Stasiak • Tumenov > Edwards • Roberts > Perry • Santos > Martins • Diakiese > Sajewski

I slightly favor Tumenov, I think he has a better than 35 % chance though. I'd say more like 45/55. Neither will wrestle, if anyone gets a TD itll be Edwards, he has hometown edge if its a close fight on the cards. He's a crisper boxer and has a reach/size edge. Tumenov hits harder and has a far better kicking game. I think it's gonna be a close technical fight.

I know this is a below average PPV but I actually really like a few of the fights. Excited for that fight as well as Roberts/Perry, Mousasi/Belfort, and excited to see Diakiese and Bektic perform.

On October 08 2016 21:50 soberstone wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2016 21:10 PuertoRican wrote:   On October 08 2016 20:32 soberstone wrote: Bets: (If my $5 to win 400K hits, I'll take everyone out for ice cream) + Show Spoiler + 400278165-1 10/8/16 4:30pm $20.00 $38.10 Pending 2 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos 400277951-1 10/8/16 4:29pm $16.10 $38.80 Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2011 Martins wins by 3 round decision +241* vs Not Martins by 3 round decision 400277464-1 10/8/16 4:27pm $5.00 $424,808.40 Pending 11 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1009 Bisping wins inside distance -122* vs Not Bisping inside distance Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1127 Mousasi wins by submission +330* vs Any other result Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1233 Manuwa wins by TKO/KO +260* vs Any other result Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1311 Struve wins by 3 round decision +323* vs Not Struve by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1409 Bektic wins inside distance -111* vs Not Bektic inside distance Pending 10/8/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1511 Pickett wins by 3 round decision +196* vs Not Pickett by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1611 Grant wins by 3 round decision +150* vs Not Grant by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Edwards wins by 3 round decision +340* vs Not Edwards by 3 round decision Pending 10/8/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1840 Diakiese (scorecards = no action) -289* vs Sajewski (scorecards = no action) Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1905 Roberts wins inside distance +151* vs Not Roberts inside distance Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2011 Martins wins by 3 round decision +241* vs Not Martins by 3 round decision 400276791-1 10/8/16 4:23pm $10.00 $28.70 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Jimi Manuwa +135* vs Ovince Saint Preux Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane 400276477-1 10/8/16 4:21pm $10.00 $62.46 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1711 Edwards wins by 3 round decision +340* vs Not Edwards by 3 round decision 400276144-1 10/8/16 4:20pm $10.00 $51.76 Pending 3 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Vitor Belfort +275* vs Gegard Mousasi Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane 400275897-1 10/8/16 4:18pm $25.00 $162.93 Pending 5 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Stefan Struve -175* vs Daniel Omielanczuk Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos 400275705-1 10/8/16 4:16pm $5.00 $4,434.32 Pending 11 Team Parlay Pending 10/8/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Michael Bisping -245* vs Dan Henderson Pending 10/8/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Vitor Belfort +275* vs Gegard Mousasi Pending 10/8/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Jimi Manuwa +135* vs Ovince Saint Preux Pending 10/8/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Stefan Struve -175* vs Daniel Omielanczuk Pending 10/8/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Mirsad Bektic -590* vs Russell Doane Pending 10/8/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1502 Brad Pickett +120* vs Iuri Alcantara Pending 10/8/16 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Davey Grant -185* vs Damian Stasiak Pending 10/8/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1702 Leon Edwards +190* vs Albert Tumenov Pending 10/8/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Marc Diakiese -275* vs Lukasz Sajewski Pending 10/8/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Danny Roberts -105* vs Mike Perry Pending 10/8/16 7:00pm UFC Fighting 2002 Adriano Martins -205* vs Leonardo Santos You think Leon Edwards is going to win his fight? ---------- My final picks: • Bisping > Henderson • Mousasi > Belfort • Manuwa > OSP • Omielanczuk > Struve • Bektic > Doane • Pickett > Alcantara • Grant > Stasiak • Tumenov > Edwards • Roberts > Perry • Santos > Martins • Diakiese > Sajewski I slightly favor Tumenov, I think he has a better than 35 % chance though. I'd say more like 45/55. Neither will wrestle, if anyone gets a TD itll be Edwards, he has hometown edge if its a close fight on the cards. He's a crisper boxer and has a reach/size edge. Tumenov hits harder and has a far better kicking game. I think it's gonna be a close technical fight. I know this is a below average PPV but I actually really like a few of the fights. Excited for that fight as well as Roberts/Perry, Mousasi/Belfort, and excited to see Diakiese and Bektic perform.

Interesting view of their skill sets.

The way I see it:

- Tumenov is the better pure boxer, has more power, and has nice kicks that setup his flurry of punches when his opponent reaches the circle/octagon line that's a few feet in front of the cage. Tumenov also has better cardio and keeps up the same pace, while also throwing a lot more volume.

- Edwards is the superior kicker and is able to use his wrestling against low level fighters. He also has the hometown advantage. What he lacks is volume, foot + head movement, and boxing skills. Edwards looks good when he's the aggressor, but not so much when he isn't given the space to kick freely.

I see this as a UD for Tumenov, or possibly a TKO in the 2nd or 3rd round. I think Edwards will go for a take down in R1, when he is pressed up against the cage and is stuck, or if he gets hurt and needs to do something quick.

My final bets:

- 10 $ Picket + Manuwa to win 46.22
- 10 $ Manuwa + Hendo to win 64.31
- 10 $ Picket + Hendo to win 62.54

WTF is that decision what bullshit.

Martins didnt throw enough but Santos literally circled away and landed 1 good headkick and a few body kicks. Martins pressured him 100 % of the time, landed more and harder. Wow. That's gross.

On October 08 2016 23:29 soberstone wrote: WTF is that decision what bullshit.

I had:

Santos R1
Martins R2, but barely, and could've went either way
Martins R3

Martins 2-1, but expected a split-decision for either guy

Tilt bet $50 on Roberts at +110

Holly shit that KO was brutal :O.

That ref is an idiot he was out and he ate three unnecessary shots

ROFL WOW what a fight. How am I supposed to know that Mike Perry's jaw is made out of fucking steel. Roberts threw EVERYTHING at him, God my luck so far. Good job though by Perry.

What a sick fight

Sigh...

Danny Roberts gassed and he didn't fight smart.

On October 08 2016 23:58 PuertoRican wrote: Sigh... Danny Roberts gassed and he didn't fight smart.

Yep. Classic case of being so gassed that you go off instincts that don't serve your interests like continuing to clinch up and not circling off the fence

Sajewski decision $10 - +515 next tilt bet

dam tumenov -250 was my biggest bet... maybe bad idea?

Had Roberts. Felt that one coming even as he was winning the start of Rd 3 and ideally clinching up the decision. Just really unintelligent spurts of blowing his wad swinging at air so he'd have no energy to properly defend for the 5-10 seconds afterwards each time

Apparently beating Mike Perry is harder than it looks

I know its short notice but dude, you laid on top of him for a round. Pathetic cardio. Cut this bitch.

On October 09 2016 00:08 traxamillion wrote: dam tumenov -250 was my biggest bet... maybe bad idea?

I dunno I think Edwards is a really good striker who, like Tumenov, has struggled primarily with grapplers so this is gonna be a highly technical fight. I think the odds are wide. Late money came in on Edwards hes +155 now.

Good thing Sajewski took this fight on 1 week notice and gassed out, or else Diakiese would've lost via grapple fuck or by submission.

Diakese has talent but looks to me like he's going to be a likely candidate to be on the wrong end of a highlight reel ko if he gets moved up fast

On October 09 2016 00:25 PuertoRican wrote: Good thing Sajewski took this fight on 1 week notice and gassed out, or else Diakiese would've lost via grapple fuck or by submission.

I'll be looking to fade Diakiese if he gets matched up with a decent grappler with a chin and is unjustly heavily favored

Actually more like just pure athletisicm rather than talent

On October 09 2016 00:30 iakim322 wrote: Actually more like just pure athletisicm rather than talent

Yah hes got a high ceiling for sure, could be anything from a total bust to a contender

Obviously when you can flip a guy over Daniel Cormier style but than get body-lock tripped by him on the first attempt repeatedly, you have some technique to learn.

Wow Leon Edwards, talk about working on a skill and getting 100x better at it.... can't believe he just succeeded at ragdolling Tumenov for a round.

Well apparently it took every ounce of his energy to do it lol

oops, swithed back to the fight as tumenov was getting choked out, who was winning up to that point?

Sigh.

Tumenov was on his way to winning a UD. Edwards didn't have shit for him on the feet as expected.

Oh well.

On October 09 2016 00:50 traxamillion wrote: oops, swithed back to the fight as tumenov was getting choked out, who was winning up to that point?

It was 1-1 but Tumenov was winning, Edwards was gassed after he grapple-fucked him in rd 1

that postfight celebration :D

well that guy just sacrificed his arm (for nothing ultimately)

WOW. Dude. This sport..... Grant by decision +145 was such money. Except it wasn't. Getting reemed.

The dogs are barking tonight.

Sucks for anyone who went big on parlays and/or DraftKings.

my bets for tonight:
santos, pickett, doane and a parlay struve/osp/gegard/bisping

well.. fuck -.-

Holy shit what a fucking performance :O

and with that they have 25min to fill

PPV fights are up next, but not until 30 minutes from now or so.

that translator is the real mvp... is he doing every language? :D

I bet on Struve and feel like an idiot because I bet on Struve.


Let's see what happens.

same here.. i have abad feeling...

Thatnk god for that polish fight iq

Good outing by Struve

This card blows.

Only 1 good fight thus far, and it was early on the prelims. The rest of the card isn't expected to deliver any big entertainment either.

On October 09 2016 02:44 soberstone wrote: Good outing by Struve

I disagree, he was hit on the head by hooking midgets once again after all these years and he still is awful at controlling distance.

wtf...

holly shit what a KO :O.

Boom Manuwa

That remind me the KO of Machida to Rashad

OSP just got poster`ized by Jimi "Poster Boy" Manuwa.

finally won a bet, thx manuwa

whats with buffer?

: ( I miss TRT belfort

since my bet is dead, im rooting for henderson

I wonder if Vitor would be open to taking fights vs lesser opponents. Watching him vs the Jacare gegard and Weidmans of the world is just sad now. And I'm someone who wanted to see his trt ass beat down. Enough is enough tho

On October 09 2016 03:46 iakim322 wrote: I wonder if Vitor would be open to taking fights vs lesser opponents. Watching him vs the Jacare gegard and Weidmans of the world is just sad now. And I'm someone who wanted to see his trt ass beat down. Enough is enough tho

Vitor looked a little better than usual, imo. He's just fighting guys who are too tough for him without his TRT.

He might as well retire.

why did hendo do nothing in the last 10 secs... omg so close

First round Hendo
Second round Bisping? I couldnt see that round

depends... how you see it controling the round vs knockdown...

Fuck I think Bisping is going to win a decision : (

Hendo 1,2,5 maybe lol

3,4, 5 Bisping correct decision IMO sick fight

Henderson didn't push the pace in R4/R5 like he needed to.

I guess he tried a little in R5 with the take down attempt, but it was a shitty effort. He should've spammed punches on the feet, it's not like he had anything to lose.

Bisping can die now. He defeat Anderson Silva, He won the UFC title and now he have his revenge against Hendo.

Also, not one of the judges gave Henderson a 10-8 for Round 1, even though 2 of the judges gave Henderson Round 2.

1,2,5 hendo imo although 5 was close... i think hendo could have played it a little better in the last 2 mins and won but he certainly landed the harder strikes and took the first half of the round

Sick that Hendo was very close to become the champion in round 1

Going to be pretty funny when any of Jacare Gegard Weidman or Rock hold are favored over the champ by like 3 to 1. Even funnier if Bisping miraculously retains again

Hendo fought stupid, he had to figh like he fought in round 5. He was waiting the KO and let Bisping control the fight.

On October 09 2016 04:45 alejandicto wrote: Hendo fought stupid, he had to figh like he fought in round 5. He was waiting the KO and let Bisping control the fight.

Hendo doesnt have the tank to fight like that for 5 rounds, the only reason he did it is because he conserved his energy

BTW

I scored it
10-8
9-9
9-10
9-10
10-10 ?

Id have to watch the last round carefully it was pretty even, but I had it tied to the 4th round and in retrospect I think thats the correct scores, 1st was a near finish, easy 10-8 round 2 was dominated by Bisping but he loses a point to a knockdown, the other 2 were clear Bisping rounds the last one is harder to judge.

Maybe not the whole fight but he was just waiting and Bisping was scoring points like a mofo.

9-9?

I think it was:

10 - 8
9 - 10 (Bisping controlled all the round, Hendo just had one knockdown but I dont think is enough to give him the round)
9 - 10
9 - 10
10 - 9

It should have been a draw imo

On October 09 2016 05:34 alejandicto wrote: Maybe not the whole fight but he was just waiting and Bisping was scoring points like a mofo. 9-9?

Knockdowns discount 1 point from a fighter

On October 09 2016 05:42 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2016 05:34 alejandicto wrote: Maybe not the whole fight but he was just waiting and Bisping was scoring points like a mofo. 9-9? Knockdowns discount 1 point from a fighter

lol you're confusing MMA with boxing.

I scored it

10-8
10-9
9-10
9-10
9-10

Rounds 2 & 5 were really close and could have gone either way. Though I'm a bit bias for Hendo

The fact that Bisping almost lost to Hendo in a 5 round decision is just embarrassing. I can't believe Bisping is champ lol. It's worse than when Serra was champ imo.

On October 09 2016 06:06 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2016 05:42 Baalim wrote:   On October 09 2016 05:34 alejandicto wrote: Maybe not the whole fight but he was just waiting and Bisping was scoring points like a mofo. 9-9? Knockdowns discount 1 point from a fighter lol you're confusing MMA with boxing. I scored it 10-8 10-9 9-10 9-10 9-10

I scored it the same way.

Hendo just needed to let his hands go more in R5 instead of trying for that TD.

Oh well.

Still think Bisping is more skilled than Alvarez?

I think a lot of WW's would have beaten Bisping tonight. Woodley, Wonderboy, Rory. Fuck maybe even Cerrone lol.

There wasn't much going for it on hendo's part, should've thought of that first. He's retiring and a win won't really matter if he's going to absolutely try his best, he was going for an easy win and when he saw bisping wasn't going out with one punch no more, I felt he kinda faded in rounds 4 and 5. He could've just ran around after seeing bisping survive the 2nd one and he was gassing already and booked the win, question in his mind must've been "for what?" I felt he wanted to go out with a bang or just let bisping have the belt. in fariness to bisping he was in super good condition all througout the fight so i give him that.

On October 09 2016 06:06 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On October 09 2016 05:42 Baalim wrote:   On October 09 2016 05:34 alejandicto wrote: Maybe not the whole fight but he was just waiting and Bisping was scoring points like a mofo. 9-9? Knockdowns discount 1 point from a fighter lol you're confusing MMA with boxing. I scored it 10-8 10-9 9-10 9-10 9-10 Rounds 2 & 5 were really close and could have gone either way. Though I'm a bit bias for Hendo The fact that Bisping almost lost to Hendo in a 5 round decision is just embarrassing. I can't believe Bisping is champ lol. It's worse than when Serra was champ imo.

yeah afaik MMA doesnt have that direct unbendable rule of knockdown - 1 point however I think that round should be scored as a draw so make it 9-9 or 10-10 doesnt matter.




Could MMA judges get a grip? not a single one scored the first round 10-8 even after the memo of the new rules for scoring encourages judges to do so.



My dream job is being a combat sports judge, you watch fights for free, you dont need to know what the fuck you are doing and you get paid, pretty neat.

BTW OSP looked like absolute shit, 2 minute gas tank

yeah OSP was done in round 2, like waiting the KO

Crazy that Hendo was too close to make history

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I enjoyed the event and actually liked the matchup, but that was atrocious for a title fight. I'm happy for Bisping because he has put in his dues and I kind of like him nowadays. He will walk from the sport with a win over Anderson, a win over Rockhold, revenging his terrible Henderson ko loss, and as a defending champion. What the books won't show is that his revenge came in a close fight against a 46 year old, his win over Anderson when he was 41, and his win over Rockhold a 1/20 lucky shot. Seriously crazy how this unfolded for him to really cement his time in mma as an incredible career.

On October 09 2016 19:07 Nazgul wrote: I enjoyed the event and actually liked the matchup, but that was atrocious for a title fight. I'm happy for Bisping because he has put in his dues and I kind of like him nowadays. He will walk from the sport with a win over Anderson, a win over Rockhold, revenging his terrible Henderson ko loss, and as a defending champion. What the books won't show is that his revenge came in a close fight against a 46 year old, his win over Anderson when he was 41, and his win over Rockhold a 1/20 lucky shot. Seriously crazy how this unfolded for him to really cement his time in mma as an incredible career.

Bisping is the GOAT post-USADA.

On October 09 2016 15:25 alejandicto wrote: Crazy that Hendo was too close to make history https://fat.gfycat.com/FormalWindingDwarfrabbit.webm

this is exactly what I meant before... once an idiot always an idiot when it comes to fighting, Bisping knows all he has to do is avoid the right and he wins, Hendo isnt even throwing anything else at him, yet he throws that stupid rusian jab without tucking his chin behind the left shoulder and doesnt bring the hand back to his chin nor leave the hand hangin to stiff-arm him... its as if he was trying his hardest to get KOd, at least he didnt circle to Hendos right all the time like he did last time.

Yeah after round one I thought "No way Bisping survives" . But anyway it was ev+ betting on Hendo at +195 since it should be a draw, the fight was close and he almost got the finish.