- Ben Rothwell was expected to face former heavyweight champion Fabricio Werdum at this event. However on August 11, Rothwell pulled out due to injury. A team representative said he may have suffered a torn meniscus and could have an ACL injury. He was replaced by Travis Browne. This will be a rematch as Werdum defeated Browne via unanimous decision at UFC on Fox: Werdum vs. Browne in 2014.
- A lightweight bout between Erik Koch and Drew Dober was originally booked for UFC 195, but Koch pulled out due to an injury and the bout was scrapped. The fight was later rescheduled for this event, until Koch pulled out again due to injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer Jason Gonzalez.
- Mairbek Taisumov was expected to face Nik Lentz at the event. However, Taisumov was removed from the fight on September 1 due to visa issues and was replaced by promotional newcomer Michael McBride on 9 days notice.
- On September 5, it was announced that the lightweight bout between Damir Hadzovic and Yusuke Kasuya, slated to open the preliminary portion of the card, was postponed and will now take place at October's UFC Fight Night 97 after Hadzovic experienced issue with his travel visa.
- Ray Borg was scheduled to face Ian McCall at the event. However, Borg pulled out of the fight on September 7 citing an illness. With no time to find a suitable replacement, McCall was removed from the card.
- On the day of the event, C.B. Dollaway was forced out of his bout against Francimar Barroso due to an injury related to riding a faulty elevator. As a result, Barroso was also removed from the event.
Rekrul is a newb
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 04 2016 00:51. Posts 13051
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First impression of the match-ups:
• Overeem > Miocic
• Werdum > Browne
• Punk vs. Gall (dunno, don't care)
• Rivera > Faber
• Andrade > Calderwood
• Eye > Correia
• Lentz > McBride
• Tavares > Magalhaes
• McCall > Borg
• Medeiros > Spencer
• Dollaway > Barroso
• Dober vs. Gonzalez (dunno)
• Hadzovic > Kasuya
Rekrul is a newb
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soberstone United States. Sep 04 2016 01:33. Posts 2662
I think Miocic is gonna batter Overeem, just needs to be careful in the 1st.
Not at all impressed with anything Overeem has done recently, don't think he can deal with Miocic's pace even if his chin holds up early.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 05 2016 03:14. Posts 13051
Going to this event! Rooting hard for Stipe but I have a bet on Overeem at +140. I've got a little bet on Gall too. Extremely bummed about their choice of replacement for Rothwell. JDS, Cain, or Black Beast all would have been great.
Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal
JDS just got cleared by his doctor to train after shoulder surgery
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iakim322 United States. Sep 05 2016 08:01. Posts 1335
Like Stipe. Would be a little funny though if he charges face first and gets KO'd tryin to impress his home crowd like Werdum just did for him
Werdum-Browne is a weird, unnecessary rematch
Calderwood > Andrade
Rivera > Faber
Eye --- Correia. Not sure how anyone could want to strongly lean on either. Eye basically had a non-performance in her last fight and Bethe has always been pretty bad
PuertoRican United States. Sep 05 2016 17:49. Posts 13051
"On September 5, it was announced that the lightweight bout between Damir Hadžovi? and Yusuke Kasuya, slated to open the preliminary portion of the card, was postponed and will now take place at October's UFC Fight Night 97 after Hadzovic experienced issue with his travel visa."
No love for Bosnian and Russian fighters in USA. o.O
On September 05 2016 15:19 scriber wrote:
noob question - can you bet mma live ?
Bookmaker used to have real live betting, but they removed it around January. There's no point in betting MMA on Bookmaker anymore for this very reason, as they take longer than 5dimes to release lines, and their odds are usually not as good as 5dimes. Live betting was the only reason MMA bettors went to Bookmaker.
5dimes has in-between round betting, which lets you live bet a fighter after each round is over.
Stim_Abuser United States. Sep 05 2016 20:45. Posts 7499
On September 04 2016 00:33 soberstone wrote:
I think Miocic is gonna batter Overeem, just needs to be careful in the 1st.
Not at all impressed with anything Overeem has done recently, don't think he can deal with Miocic's pace even if his chin holds up early.
How are you not impressed with Overeem knocking JDS out cold? His defense has been stellar lately and he hasn't lost a round since losing to big ben.
I think Him vs Stipe is close to a flip. Stipe chin isn't great either. Outside of being tko'd he's been wobbled a bunch of times as well. A solid overeem strike is definitely putting him down.
Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete
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soberstone United States. Sep 05 2016 22:08. Posts 2662
On September 04 2016 00:33 soberstone wrote:
I think Miocic is gonna batter Overeem, just needs to be careful in the 1st.
Not at all impressed with anything Overeem has done recently, don't think he can deal with Miocic's pace even if his chin holds up early.
How are you not impressed with Overeem knocking JDS out cold? His defense has been stellar lately and he hasn't lost a round since losing to big ben.
I think Him vs Stipe is close to a flip. Stipe chin isn't great either. Outside of being tko'd he's been wobbled a bunch of times as well. A solid overeem strike is definitely putting him down.
His fight with JDS was them tentatively prancing around each other for almost 2 full rounds throwing nothing before Reem landed a huge shot. It was a nice punch, it was not an impressive fight. It's not as though Overeem's power has ever been in question. I guess you could make the argument that Reem's footwork baffled JDS, but I think JDS just looked hesitant and terrible.
As far as Stipe's chin is concerned, he got wobbled from shots by JDS that would turn out most people's lights. I think his chin is well above average. The Struve KO looks like an anomaly to me.
No doubt Overeem can potentially turn out Stipe's lights if he lands big early, but in a fight where both guys get off and an actual rhythm is set, Overeem is fucked. Stipe's output, gas tank, and durability is on such a different level at this point, Econoreem has had a nice resurgence but it ends here.
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 06 2016 05:15. Posts 13051
I was really impressed by Reem recent fights. He matured a lot and now looks aware of his weaknesses and strengths and he is gameplanning accordingly.
Having said that I think Stipe is a bad match up for Overeem . He is going to put the pressure on him and test that chin. We know that Alistair does not react well to that. It is HW div and anything can happen ofcourse but I think Miocic has that fight in the bag,
The odds on Gall and Punk are funny. CM Punk really has no business in the cage and is likely to be humiliated, but Mickey Gall is not some world beater. In his last fight he beat up a MMA reporter. I mean a lot of unknowns for this fight to consider betting an anonymous can at -400+.
But Gall is a pro and Punk is like a sherdogger. Still super ev+ imo. I saw his training videos and his punches are jokes his JJ is zero, I think Gall by submission can be the bet to make.
NoRoids Reem's fight makes me so nervous unlike the Ubereem era. Seems to me the only way he wins is if he does not expose than glassy chin, but once that gets hit, even just a little, his whole world seems to come crashing down and ref just comes over and stops the fight
On September 06 2016 04:15 whamm! wrote:
whenever Overeem fights he wins as long as he doesn't get hit. wont happen vs Stipe. KO win
Except for his last 3 fights where his opponents landed plenty of significant strikes (61 total) on him prior to them losing.
those compubox metrics count wiping my ass as a significant strike. Reems whole head seems to be suspect to even the softest looking of strikes.
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iakim322 United States. Sep 06 2016 18:47. Posts 1335
I'm going to be on Gall too. Though likely small. Don't really understand the general backlash that seems to be out there to CM Punk or any of this stuff about being so certain that he sucks so much. As for the first part, the easy thing is to heckle, but I look at it like it's difficult to not respect someone who had a certain amount of fame and was probably more than financially set yet still wanted to put himself out there exposed to ridicule and fairly likely a pretty epic fail. The second part, no one outside his training camp actually knows shit. Besides the obvious general facts that MMA is really tough and more than likely, the curve is going to be way too high for a green, 35 year old athlete basically trying to skate uphill. I guess that's good enough for a 3 to 1 bet except it's not like anything's really known about Gall either besides the fact that he choked out someone who really did prove that he didn't belong in a cage.
Saw this situation being a bit compared to James Toney coming from boxing years ago to fight Randy Couture elsewhere. Yeah that fight should've been like 50:1 instead of the roughly 5 to 1 it was and comparing Toney, an all time great defensive boxer, to a guy who got paid to act out physical stuff in his underwear is a little silly. Except anyone who followed boxing knew Toney was basically just trying to cash out at the time since he was more than done as a high level boxer by then and there was pretty much an assumption that Toney's ego wouldn't allow him to even try to prepare for it the right way. That and Couture > Gall by a little bit
Guess my random rambling point is that even for hardcore MMA people, don't see why this fight has to be such a negative. It could actually be pretty good for the sport depending on what happens
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iakim322 United States. Sep 06 2016 19:24. Posts 1335
On September 05 2016 21:08 soberstone wrote:
His fight with JDS was them tentatively prancing around each other for almost 2 full rounds throwing nothing before Reem landed a huge shot. It was a nice punch, it was not an impressive fight. It's not as though Overeem's power has ever been in question. I guess you could make the argument that Reem's footwork baffled JDS, but I think JDS just looked hesitant and terrible.
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Was there a specific reason JDS looked so terrible though? Not sure if I'm forgetting if he had injuries/surgeries around and after his Stipe fight leading to Reem. I give Reem a bit more credit for that than you seem to. I've come around a bit on econo-Reem. It beats the ultra arrogant, flailing around version that got KTFO'd by Bigfoot Silva even if that version was roided. But obviously Stipe fights very differently than the recent/current JDS and I'm going to be on Stipe so hopefully you're right
A very un-technical theory that I may have just made out of thin air of why JDS looked like such shit is that he was in smack in the middle of a stage of being less confident in himself and his fighting style after his second Cain mauling and having Stipe light him up. He alluded to this a little before his recent Rothwell fight. But anyways, that combined with coming into a grudge match where he really, really didn't wanna get KO'd (Reem and JDS were sniping at each other for what seemed like a long time) made him turtle up/tentative
