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I dont get why people that fought for ISIS are not put in jail. Same in Sweden I think..

The question should be really easy to answer.

ffs what is zoolander thinking.

Can't believe how cringy it would be if he came to Mexico dressed in some traditional perhispanic attire

you know you're a joke when the prime minister of one of the shittiest places on Earth cant be arsed to deal with your shit

it's a real treat when canadians say the US president is a con artist

Poor Trudeau, I read somewhere he was walking around in Indian wedding dress

the thing is, if he was doing this to get more voters, I think he couldve stopped a while back and he would've secured them either way... he most likely believes in what he s doing

Must be nice when your big scandal is wearing goofy Indian clothes in India. As opposed to say, treason.

trump is a KGB agent and bush should be put on trial for war crimes

also anyone who called for obama's impeachment is racist

The "fake news" cries regarding Russiagate are simply pathetic at this point with all the indictments coming down. Best just point your attention elsewhere. I'm sure there's a blue-haired transgender burning a flag somewhere.

On February 26 2018 17:25 NMcNasty wrote: The "fake news" cries regarding Russiagate are simply pathetic at this point with all the indictments coming down. Best just point your attention elsewhere. I'm sure there's a blue-haired transgender burning a flag somewhere.

haha yeah i'm sure somewhere there is a confused person who has been humored to the point of neglect who will be a huge suicide risk, maybe even a child getting subsidized (medicaid) and possibly irreversible (sterilization) treatment for an illness that is being specifically encouraged as a civil rights frontier

it's worth it just to spite me though

that's moral high ground you can keep

On February 26 2018 17:25 NMcNasty wrote: The "fake news" cries regarding Russiagate are simply pathetic at this point with all the indictments coming down. Best just point your attention elsewhere. I'm sure there's a blue-haired transgender burning a flag somewhere.

The fact that you think "all these indictments" is hard evidence of treason show your clear bias, you dont like Trump hence you are more lilkely to believe negative things about him.

Anyway please elaborate on how did the russians rig the election please.

As a "normal" person I'd suggest you ignore things like "country XX rigged elections in country YY" - you'll never have enough information to have an adequate opinion and USA, China, Russia, France, England, Germany, Turkey are all pushing elections in other countries at all times.


edit: Meanwhile countries like USA could do the reverse push for internal propaganda reasons... thus swinging either way would be extremely -EV - its better to not have an opinion than be a sheepie imo

Sam Harris who has been vocally anti-trump retweeted this, I think this is an important video, I could bet McNasty will continue to think Trump was treasonous regardless if no evidence is ever found about it.




<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LISTEN - This is what Michael Wolff was HEARING in his earpiece when he claimed he couldn’t hear my question on <a href="

Not sure if you consider plain old Wikipedia liberal fake news or not, just the best summary out there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

On February 16, 2018, a Federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., indicted 13 Russian nationals and 3 Russian entities on charges of conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to commit bank and wire fraud, and fraud with identification documents, in connection with the 2016 United States national elections. The 37-page indictment cites the illegal use of social media "to sow political discord, including actions that supported the presidential candidacy of Donald Trump and disparaged his opponent, Hillary Clinton.

Former NSA director Michael V. Hayden has stated that Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election is the "most successful covert influence operation in history."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%93present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials

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Its simply factual that Russia engaged in a massive operation to influence the election (in favor of Trump). Its also factual that several members or former members of the Trump administration lied about their connections (there are guilty pleas). Is there 100% hard evidence Trump is guilty of treason *right now*? No. But maybe people who were blatantly wrong about Russian involvement so far (4Chan hoax, Obama deep state) should at least wait until they stop arresting people before loling at the suggestion.

and please don't waste my time with youtubes of Michael Wolff.

obviously it's a seriously moral crime to meddle in another countries elections, and the world would be better off if trump wasn't elected, but it's massive hypocrisy to get mad over russia influencing your elections when you've rigged elections in 30 other countries, including meddling in russias elections itself in 1996. Hilary and trump both did worse than that, and hilary gets super indignant about it, but she is a serious war criminal, she herself would be in jail for the rest of her life in any law abiding society.

Who cares if trump is guilty of * treason*, he was guilty of serious war crimes a long time ago, not to mention a good case for crimes against humanity could be made for his environmental policy, these things are far more significant than petty crimes like treason. He admits to all of these crimes on a daily basis so a trial would only last about 5 minutes before he would be convicted, assuming we lived in a society where people and lawyers could comprehend the law in a rational way, which they cant

On February 27 2018 06:10 NMcNasty wrote: Its simply factual that Russia engaged in a massive operation to influence the election (in favor of Trump). Its also factual that several members or former members of the Trump administration lied about their connections (there are guilty pleas).

Well this massive thing appears to be bots and social media posts afaik, and there is no evidence Trump was involved and you talk patronizingly as he was, would you be apologetic if no evidence was found? I think you would just carry on like Wolff did.

Also as it was opinted out its extremely hypocritical to be outraged about that, do you call Obama a traitor because he allowed the NSA to illegaly spy on citizens and to want to imprison whistleblowers? You probably hate how reckless Trump was when he called KimJongUn "fat rocketman", but did you feel exactly the same way when Hillary was even more reckless declaring a no-fly zone over Syria setting a stage to go to war with Russia?

The USA is the biggest election rigger in the entire world for fucks sake, you are currently arming syrian rebels sponsoring a coup in Syria lol, get real.

The media is so full of anti-trump and anti-Israel news that I think most people in Norway "know" the USA elections were rigged by the russians by now. And of course: Israel is by far the worst country in the middle east. If they wanted to im sure they could dig up some dirt on Iran / SA / Hamas every day, but no. Only Israel deserve this.

Its unbelieveable how dumb people are. But I think the younger generations watch some international media too and get some more balanced / objective opinions on these matters. The only media/political narrative that most norwegians dont buy at all is "Islam is a religion of peace".

On February 27 2018 07:18 Stroggoz wrote: obviously it's a seriously moral crime to meddle in another countries elections, and the world would be better off if trump wasn't elected, but it's massive hypocrisy to get mad over russia influencing your elections when you've rigged elections in 30 other countries, including meddling in russias elections itself in 1996.

Well its not really hypocrisy, I wasn't the one engaging in those operations I just live here.

Hilary and trump both did worse than that, and hilary gets super indignant about it, but she is a serious war criminal, she herself would be in jail for the rest of her life in any law abiding society.

Not sure how Hillary is a war criminal. Yes vote to go into Iraq? I do however think you can make a very serious case that GWB was in fact a war criminal. Invading a foreign country based on fabricated intelligence, seems IMO, like a war crime.

Who cares if trump is guilty of * treason*, he was guilty of serious war crimes a long time ago, not to mention a good case for crimes against humanity could be made for his environmental policy, these things are far more significant than petty crimes like treason. He admits to all of these crimes on a daily basis so a trial would only last about 5 minutes before he would be convicted, assuming we lived in a society where people and lawyers could comprehend the law in a rational way, which they cant

probably fair