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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 19 2018 01:27. Posts 34246

what do you think about this Loco?:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/a...-women-in-stem/553592/?utm_source=twb

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 19 2018 02:12. Posts 5291

Iran is not included in that study? It has 70% of STEM students being women.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 19 2018 04:00. Posts 34246


  On February 19 2018 01:12 Stroggoz wrote:
Iran is not included in that study? It has 70% of STEM students being women.



lol damn, so feminist were right, what women need for liberation are hijabs

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Santafairy   Korea (South). Feb 19 2018 16:00. Posts 2224


  On February 19 2018 00:27 Baalim wrote:
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no, what/who is that?

they find ridiculous postmodern research so we don't have to

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Loco   Canada. Feb 19 2018 17:01. Posts 20963

Same as before, I see no reason why this study would be a game changer. I advise being cautious before drawing any conclusions. I find it disturbing how this is presented as a "case closed" thing on social media. I think it's interesting, but more gender equality (better access to resources and opportunities) doesn't inform us of the cognitive biases in a culture and how different things are gendered. We simply can't remove the socialization aspect from this data. If anything, this study strengthens the hypothesis that it has little to do with innate interest and ability:

"the percentage of girls who did excel in science or math was still larger than the number of women who were graduating with stem degrees. That means there’s something in even the most liberal societies that’s nudging women away from math and science, even when those are their best subjects."

If women excel in STEM subjects and it's their best subjects and yet they still don't go into them, it seems like good reason to believe it's because of the way different professions are gendered on a cultural level. The second issue is that the sample size is relatively small for this kind of study, and the countries selected and which have similar gender equality are also countries that share a common culture (Western European and Scandinavian). The few countries they included with a low degree of gender equality and high STEM also share lot of cultural similarities. I'd like to see a bigger and broader study.

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Loco   Canada. Feb 19 2018 17:55. Posts 20963

"So I was surprised to learn that Peterson is challenging me to a debate, in response to a tweet operating under my name. If he really wants to, I am ready to do it during my next visit to New York next October." - Zizek

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 20 2018 02:26. Posts 34246


  On February 19 2018 16:01 Loco wrote:
If anything, this study strengthens the hypothesis that it has little to do with innate interest and ability:




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Loco   Canada. Feb 20 2018 15:07. Posts 20963

More great Tweeting by JP:



If you have a look at the actual quiz, they equate scientific authority to religious and governmental authority with regards to things like climate change and evolution.





  The RWA scale asks participants how much they agree with statements such as: “It’s always better to trust the judgment of the proper authorities in government and religion than to listen to the noisy rabble-rousers in our society who are trying to create doubts in people’s minds” and “Our country desperately needs a mighty leader who will do what has to be done to destroy the radical new ways and sinfulness that are ruining us.”

The new LWA scale, on the other hand, asks questions such as: “It’s always better to trust the judgment of the proper authorities in science with respect to issues like global warming and evolution than to listen to the noisy rabble-rousers in our society who are trying to create doubts in people’s minds” and “Our country desperately needs a mighty leader who will do what has to be done to destroy the radical new ways and sinfulness that are ruining us.”




Another thing: the impressive results claimed for his Self-Authoring Suite also failed to replicate. Full paper here. This was 6 months ago and his website still makes the same claim of success from the previous study. Can't imagine how much money he's made since then by advertising the program.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 20 2018 16:05. Posts 5291

man how do these people get jobs in universities.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 20 2018 16:17. Posts 5291

i mean it's not just equating trust in science with trust in government that makes the study dumb. If you want to expose left wing dogmatism just read and review their work, and expose it with arguments. Giving quiz questions, finding correlations is just useless. You can't really get much out of those types of studies.

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Feb 21 2018 08:23. Posts 5108

I found it a bit funny when Trudaeu gave his "diversity is great" speech when asked about returning ISIS-terrorists to Canada from some student. We all make mistakes.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 21 2018 08:30. Posts 34246


  On February 21 2018 07:23 VanDerMeyde wrote:
I found it a bit funny when Trudaeu gave his "diversity is great" speech when asked about returning ISIS-terrorists to Canada from some student. We all make mistakes.



link?

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Feb 21 2018 13:49. Posts 5108


  On February 21 2018 07:30 Baalim wrote:
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link?


sure



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lebowski   Greece. Feb 21 2018 18:37. Posts 9205

yeah he dodged and mentioned that those who are coming in are running from ISIS. Nothing new here, just a politician dodging a question
A standard reason political debates are usually snoozefests

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 21 2018 18:56. Posts 9634

How to people fall for that shit honestly

"asks legit question"

"answers with something a beauty peagent contestant would answer which has nothng to do with the question but 'inspires' people"

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VanDerMeyde   Norway. Feb 21 2018 20:27. Posts 5108

And it gets worse when Andrew Scheer tries to ask about returning ISIS fighters and canadian security. The "islamophobia speech" as answer to a perfectly reasonable concern.. (He started pretty well this time thou)



To his defense a lot of european politicians were like this 2-3 years ago too

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Feb 21 2018 21:31. Posts 5291


  On February 21 2018 17:56 Spitfiree wrote:

"answers with something a beauty peagent contestant would answer which has nothng to do with the question but 'inspires' people"



That's hardly surprising, politicians are very similar to beauty peagents, in that they are both meant to have superficial personalities that people will like.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Feb 21 2018 23:38. Posts 9634

Yeah but with beauty peagents everyone knows its the chick that fucked the producers the most that wins... I guess its the same with politicians but they suck the corporations instead ... still not really comparable though


I'm obviously aware of the qualities a politician needs to succeed - Trudeau is probably a prime example of that except he s pretty smart cause he s boarding the truth trains but fills them up with complete garbage. The public is fine with taking all of the garbage as long as it seems that he s pushing a truthful agenda in the mean time. How sad.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 21 2018 23:45. Posts 34246

indeed they are peagents, democracy will elect charismatic people, not the best suited for the job.


I thought when VanDerMeyde said "we all make mistakes" he was quoting Trudeau on Isis combatants, but yeah obviously he isn't going to answer those questions, he has done far more preposterous things that go "unnoticed" by mainstream media.

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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 22 2018 00:12. Posts 34246


  On February 21 2018 22:38 Spitfiree wrote:
I guess its the same with politicians but they suck the corporations instead



In many countries lobbying is illegal (Mexico for example), so they move up by political favors, corruption etc, in the US the state keeps corporations happy or they lose funding, in Mexico corporations keep the state happy or they go out of business.

So lobbying sounds terrible and is legal bribing, ironically giving the state the budget to fund itself breeds even more corruption that "legalized bribery"

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