UFC 199: Rockhold vs. Bisping 2 - Page 13

I think people are blaming this on overconfidence and shit but it was a technical mistake.



Rockhold needlesly over-extends a jab (he was close enough to just flick it without the need for that big step) when Bisping has a a dominant footing over him and he had no exit strategy nor a follow up, he just back pedaled in a straight line without even tucking his chin under his right shoulder or changing levels.

Anderson Silva usually gets in these spots where he is completely bladed almost giving the back and all he does is simply drop very low tucking his chin keeping his ground threatening the right hook, pretty often seen in boxers like Roy Jones, or as others like to do when they throw these kind of lancing jabs past the mark and follow up with a spinning elbow but Rockhold simply had no idea what to do there and got hit by that pretty nice "paw" that Bisping threw.

Bisping big heart. He was hungry for the title. Grit and determination.

all rockhard had to do was kick him bisping till his eyes fell off heh

The total card payout was $2,689,000.

Here's a look at what everyone made:

Michael Bisping: $250,000 (no win bonus)
Luke Rockhold: $250,000

Dominick Cruz: $350,000 (no win bonus)
Urijah Faber: $160,000

Max Holloway: $150,000 ($75,000 win bonus)
Ricardo Lamas: $53,000

Dan Henderson: $800,000 ($200,000 win bonus)
Hector Lombard: $53,000

Dustin Poirier: $110,000 ($55,000 win bonus)
Bobby Green: $24,000

Brian Ortega: $46,000 ($23,000 win bonus)
Clay Guida: $55,000

Beneil Dariush: $62,000 ($31,000 win bonus)
James Vick: $23,000

Jessica Andrade: $40,000 ($20,000 win bonus)
Jessica Penne: $20,000

Alex Caceres: $48,000 ($24,000 win bonus)
Cole Miller: $33,000

Sean Strickland: $46,000 ($23,000 win bonus)
Tom Breese: $19,000

Luis Henrique da Silva: $20,000 ($10,000 win bonus)
Jonathan Wilson: $12,000

Kevin Casey: $15,000
Elvis Mutapcic: $16,000

Polo Reyes: $24,000 ($12,000 win bonus)
Dong Hyun Kim: $10,000

No wonder Henderson doesn't want to stop fighting, if he's making that kind of money.

Feels a bit low for both Bisping and Rockhold tho?

On June 07 2016 06:02 Baalim wrote: I think people are blaming this on overconfidence and shit but it was a technical mistake. Rockhold needlesly over-extends a jab (he was close enough to just flick it without the need for that big step) when Bisping has a a dominant footing over him and he had no exit strategy nor a follow up, he just back pedaled in a straight line without even tucking his chin under his right shoulder or changing levels. Anderson Silva usually gets in these spots where he is completely bladed almost giving the back and all he does is simply drop very low tucking his chin keeping his ground threatening the right hook, pretty often seen in boxers like Roy Jones, or as others like to do when they throw these kind of lancing jabs past the mark and follow up with a spinning elbow but Rockhold simply had no idea what to do there and got hit by that pretty nice "paw" that Bisping threw.

I mean obviously, pretty much anytime someone get's knocked out they made a technical mistake that led to it, but it was a mistake brought on by over confidence. Luke doesn't fight like that, he fights at a distance and throws kicks and looks to counter guys trying to close the distance, he's basically never charges forward like that. Just look at their first fight.

He basically had zero respect for Bisping, was massively over confident, and fought stupidly. Champs have been doing that lately, first Aldo, then Werdum, and now Rockhold.

I do agree Rockholds head movement and defense is pretty bad, but he doesn't get hit that much because he usually plays the distance game and kicks from the outside and jumps back and counters when attacked.

On June 08 2016 05:21 TianYuan wrote: No wonder Henderson doesn't want to stop fighting, if he's making that kind of money. Feels a bit low for both Bisping and Rockhold tho?

I'm guessing you choose between no win bonus and % of PPV, % of PPV is much more rewarding if you re a top fighter considering you ll be put on good cards and get tons more. No idea how the system works on FN events though

Wow Henderson has a great manager :O

On June 08 2016 07:08 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On June 07 2016 06:02 Baalim wrote: I think people are blaming this on overconfidence and shit but it was a technical mistake. Rockhold needlesly over-extends a jab (he was close enough to just flick it without the need for that big step) when Bisping has a a dominant footing over him and he had no exit strategy nor a follow up, he just back pedaled in a straight line without even tucking his chin under his right shoulder or changing levels. Anderson Silva usually gets in these spots where he is completely bladed almost giving the back and all he does is simply drop very low tucking his chin keeping his ground threatening the right hook, pretty often seen in boxers like Roy Jones, or as others like to do when they throw these kind of lancing jabs past the mark and follow up with a spinning elbow but Rockhold simply had no idea what to do there and got hit by that pretty nice "paw" that Bisping threw. I mean obviously, pretty much anytime someone get's knocked out they made a technical mistake that led to it, but it was a mistake brought on by over confidence. Luke doesn't fight like that, he fights at a distance and throws kicks and looks to counter guys trying to close the distance, he's basically never charges forward like that. Just look at their first fight. He basically had zero respect for Bisping, was massively over confident, and fought stupidly. Champs have been doing that lately, first Aldo, then Werdum, and now Rockhold. I do agree Rockholds head movement and defense is pretty bad, but he doesn't get hit that much because he usually plays the distance game and kicks from the outside and jumps back and counters when attacked.

Well yes but this wasnt Anderson Silva squaring up and leaning like neo vs Weidman type of mistake, this was simply Rockhold not fighting cautiously exposing his technical shortcomings, also champs cant always play super safe especially against weaker opponents, Aldo had been criticized harshly for cruising to decision instead of finishing fights (and rightfully so), so it was just Rockhold underestimating Bispings striking, but he overestimating his own.

On June 09 2016 04:59 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On June 08 2016 07:08 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On June 07 2016 06:02 Baalim wrote: I think people are blaming this on overconfidence and shit but it was a technical mistake. Rockhold needlesly over-extends a jab (he was close enough to just flick it without the need for that big step) when Bisping has a a dominant footing over him and he had no exit strategy nor a follow up, he just back pedaled in a straight line without even tucking his chin under his right shoulder or changing levels. Anderson Silva usually gets in these spots where he is completely bladed almost giving the back and all he does is simply drop very low tucking his chin keeping his ground threatening the right hook, pretty often seen in boxers like Roy Jones, or as others like to do when they throw these kind of lancing jabs past the mark and follow up with a spinning elbow but Rockhold simply had no idea what to do there and got hit by that pretty nice "paw" that Bisping threw. I mean obviously, pretty much anytime someone get's knocked out they made a technical mistake that led to it, but it was a mistake brought on by over confidence. Luke doesn't fight like that, he fights at a distance and throws kicks and looks to counter guys trying to close the distance, he's basically never charges forward like that. Just look at their first fight. He basically had zero respect for Bisping, was massively over confident, and fought stupidly. Champs have been doing that lately, first Aldo, then Werdum, and now Rockhold. I do agree Rockholds head movement and defense is pretty bad, but he doesn't get hit that much because he usually plays the distance game and kicks from the outside and jumps back and counters when attacked. Well yes but this wasnt Anderson Silva squaring up and leaning like neo vs Weidman type of mistake, this was simply Rockhold not fighting cautiously exposing his technical shortcomings, also champs cant always play super safe especially against weaker opponents, Aldo had been criticized harshly for cruising to decision instead of finishing fights (and rightfully so), so it was just Rockhold underestimating Bispings striking, but he overestimating his own.

Luke has never been to a decision in the UFC and has finished 13 of his 15 wins. I don't think that was a concern. And even if it was it's no reason to fight completely out of your comfort zone by leaping at Bisping with sloppy boxing.

Honestly Rockhold just thought like the rest of us. Bisping isn't that good and had almost no chance and doesn't even hit hard so he wasn't in much danger. That's the first time Bisping has legit KO'd someone in the UFC iirc.

Bisping winning over Silva gave him confidence to fight a little better than usual. If you watch the fight Bisping was connecting more and parrying more shots. Rockhard tried something new and got caught, I'd like to see a rematch between the two soon

On June 09 2016 11:45 whamm! wrote: Bisping winning over Silva gave him confidence to fight a little better than usual. If you watch the fight Bisping was connecting more and parrying more shots. Rockhard tried something new and got caught, I'd like to see a rematch between the two soon

From what I remember Bisping was winging a bunch of huge looping sloppy shots to the point they were consistently throwing him off balance.