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PuertoRican   United States. May 30 2016 06:28. Posts 13029

Date: Saturday, June 4th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 23:15 LP.net / 3:15pm PST / 6:15pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (PPV): 3:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Main Card (PPV)

Luke Rockhold (15-2) vs. Michael Bisping (28-7) (Middleweight Championship)
Dominick Cruz (21-1) vs. Urijah Faber (33-8) (Bantamweight Championship)
Max Holloway (15-3) vs. Ricardo Lamas (16-4) (Featherweight)
Dan Henderson (31-14) vs. Hector Lombard (34-5-1) (Middleweight)
Dustin Poirier (19-4) vs. Bobby Green (23-6) (Lightweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Brian Ortega (10-0) vs. Clay Guida (32-16) (Featherweight)
Beneil Dariush (12-2) vs. James Vick (9-0) (Lightweight)
Jessica Penne (12-3) vs. Jessica Andrade (13-5) (Women's Strawweight)
Cole Miller (21-9) vs. Alex Caceres (11-8) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Sean Strickland (17-1) vs. Tom Breese (10-0) (Welterweight)
Jonathan Wilson (7-0) vs. Luiz Henrique da Silva (10-0) (Light Heavyweight)
Kevin Casey (9-4) vs. Elvis Mutapcic (15-4) (Middleweight)
Polo Reyes (5-2) vs. Dong Hyun Kim (13-7-3) (Lightweight)

Other

- The event was expected to be headlined by a UFC Middleweight Championship rematch between current champion Luke Rockhold and former champion Chris Weidman. They previously met at UFC 194, when Rockhold won Weidman's title via fourth round TKO. However, Weidman pulled out on May 17 due to a large extrusion herniation on his neck. The first replacement choice was former Strikeforce Middleweight Champion Ronaldo Souza, who lost his title to Rockhold in 2011, but he injured his meniscus in a win at UFC 198 against former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Vitor Belfort. Therefore, he was replaced by The Ultimate Fighter 3 winner Michael Bisping. The fight will also be a rematch as the two met previously in November of 2014 at UFC Fight Night: Rockhold vs. Bisping, with Rockhold winning via submission in the second round.
- The co-main event is expected to feature a UFC Bantamweight Championship trilogy bout between current two-time champion Dominick Cruz and former WEC Featherweight Champion Urijah Faber. The pairing first met at featherweight on WEC 26 in 2007, when Faber defeated Cruz via guillotine choke to defend his title. The rematch took place on UFC 132 in 2011, when Cruz defended his title for the first time via unanimous decision.
- A lightweight bout between Evan Dunham and The Ultimate Fighter: Brazil 2 winner Leonardo Santos, originally scheduled for UFC 198, was moved to this event after a minor injury to Dunham delayed the match-up a few weeks. Subsequently, Santos pulled out on April 29 due to an undisclosed injury and was replaced by James Vick. In turn, Dunham pulled out of that pairing on May 5 for undisclosed reasons and was replaced by Beneil Dariush.
- In January 2016, former UFC Lightweight and Welterweight Champion B.J. Penn announced his intentions to return to active competition in the featherweight division after an 18-month "retirement" and was expected to compete at UFC 197. However, Penn's return was delayed after an investigation into criminal allegations made against him was launched. After the UFC concluded that no criminal or civil charges would be filed, the organization announced that he would face Dennis Siver at this event. In turn, Siver pulled out on May 10 due to an undisclosed injury. He was replaced by Cole Miller. Subsequently, Penn himself was removed from the card on May 23 after he was flagged for a potential anti-doping violation: the use of an IV in excess of 50 ml in a six-hour period during a March 25, out-of-competition sample collection. He was replaced by Alex Caceres.
- A lightweight bout between John Makdessi and Mehdi Baghdad was originally scheduled for this event, but on April 28 it was announced that the bout was moved to UFC Fight Night: dos Anjos vs. Alvarez on July 7, possibly to bolster the card.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 30 2016 06:31. Posts 13029

First impression of the match-ups:

• Rockhold > Bisping
• Cruz > Faber
• Holloway > Lamas
• Lombard > Henderson
• Poirier > Green
• Ortega > Guida
• Vick > Dariush
• Penne > Andrade
• Miller > Caceres
• Breese > Strickland
• Wilson > Silva
• Mutapcic > Casey
• Reyes > Kim

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jvilla777   Australia. May 30 2016 09:16. Posts 1348

Holloway = gold mine

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Stim_Abuser   United States. May 30 2016 21:33. Posts 7499

Card kinda went to shit with the loss of Weidman.

Faber vs Cruz is a stupid match up. Faber has looked pretty bad lately imo.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny peteLast edit: 30/05/2016 21:50

soberstone   United States. May 30 2016 22:00. Posts 2662

Agree with all your picks except Vick vs Dariush, I think Dariush will probably take it down by decision, his fight with Chiesa should have taught him some lessons about pace.

I live in LA and will maybe go to this if I can get some really cheap tix the day b4 the fights.

Agree with Holloway being a goldmine, Lamas shouldn't have shit for him. Unfortunately I expect Holloway to open at around -450 and only get more expensive. Everyone gonna be parlaying on this card due to all the heavy favs

 Last edit: 30/05/2016 22:03

Minsk   United States. May 30 2016 22:19. Posts 1558

Wow, they're letting Dan Henderson fight Hector Lombard.. ..


PuertoRican   United States. May 30 2016 22:35. Posts 13029







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Rockhold finished Bisping u1.5 in their first fight, and Bisping had a full camp. (^ watch the fight video above ^)

Rockhold/Bisping u1.5 is currently -115


Michael Bisping in a FOX Sports interview: "I'm not going out there to fight five rounds. If I try that, I lose. I'm not going to have the conditioning. Believe you me, I've stopped guys in the first round plenty of times before, albeit earlier in my career. I'm going to go back to that animalistic fighting style, which I have inside me. I'm going to go out on my sword and I tell you what, I'm going to give it everything I've got. Luke Rockhold better be ready."

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/mi...ioning-but-i-ll-have-the-heart-052016

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 30/05/2016 22:43

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. May 31 2016 09:56. Posts 9634


  On May 30 2016 20:33 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Card kinda went to shit with the loss of Weidman.

Faber vs Cruz is a stupid match up. Faber has looked pretty bad lately imo.


I dont really think Weidman has many outs vs Rockhold, that title seems pretty locked for the near future until someone improves hard. Although if someone does improve it will most likely be Weidman

They are just giving Faber his last title attempt, don't know why as a rematch with Dillashaw makes much sense or even a few other match ups
edit: Tbh it even seemed like they were setting up a match between Faber and Dillashaw with/ever since the TUF season with McGregor - Faber, whole "argument" between Faber & DIllashaw seems so scripted

 Last edit: 31/05/2016 14:22

Baalim   Mexico. May 31 2016 10:55. Posts 34246

this UFC card should be called "bully beatdown" lol so many fighters drawing dead, Bisping, Faber and Hendo.. come on.

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PuertoRican   United States. May 31 2016 20:38. Posts 13029


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Stim_Abuser   United States. May 31 2016 23:53. Posts 7499


  On May 31 2016 08:56 Spitfiree wrote:
Show nested quote +


I dont really think Weidman has many outs vs Rockhold, that title seems pretty locked for the near future until someone improves hard. Although if someone does improve it will most likely be Weidman

They are just giving Faber his last title attempt, don't know why as a rematch with Dillashaw makes much sense or even a few other match ups
edit: Tbh it even seemed like they were setting up a match between Faber and Dillashaw with/ever since the TUF season with McGregor - Faber, whole "argument" between Faber & DIllashaw seems so scripted


I'm a Weidman fan so I might be biased, but the dude fractured his foot in two places 5 weeks out from the fight. So his entire training camp was fucked, and it was still fractured when he fought. He had surgery after, so it's not like some BS bruised rib shit. Even despite that, the fight was close until that stupid kick. He won the 1st round pretty clearly and was winning the 3rd up until the kick out striking Luke 22-12 and having a takedown. Luke looked like a deer caught in the headlights up until that kick, eating like 5 body kicks in a row unanswered.

Don't see how people can think Weidman doesn't have many outs considering all that. I think he wins the rematch if he can manage to go into the fight healthy, but that's a huge if. Weidmans definitely on the path of Shogun/Cain/Pettis of constant injuries that severely hurt their career.

A rematch with dillashaw makes sense because it was a razor close fight that could of gone either way. It was probably the closest title fight I can remember ever. And Faber hasn't beat a single top 10 guy since being blasted by Barao, and was on his way to losing to Riveria until he pulled one of the most blatant eye pokes in history. Then he lost to Frankie. Then he struggles with and barely beats Saenz, now he's getting a title shot? lol.

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

soberstone   United States. Jun 01 2016 06:02. Posts 2662

Rockhold by decision up to +640, opened at +330.

This seems kinda nuts.

If Bisping fights conservatively in the first couple rounds, he has a great gas tank and this could absolutely go the distance.

If I was Bisping I'd want to take it into deep water anyway and rely on Rockhold feeling the pressure of being the overwhelming favorite / wanting a spectacular finish / hope he makes a mistake.

Bisping is a smart fighter and I doubt he comes out "guns blazing".

Would anyone really be +640 shocked if Rockhold took a decision? I'd be far more surprised at Faber winning, and that's down to +425 (aka lighting money on fire)

Along that same line of thought I think the o 1.5 at +money is pretty great.

 Last edit: 01/06/2016 06:12

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 01 2016 06:24. Posts 13029


  On June 01 2016 05:02 soberstone wrote:
Rockhold by decision up to +640, opened at +330.

This seems kinda nuts.

If Bisping fights conservatively in the first couple rounds, he has a great gas tank and this could absolutely go the distance.

If I was Bisping I'd want to take it into deep water anyway and rely on Rockhold feeling the pressure of being the overwhelming favorite / wanting a spectacular finish / hope he makes a mistake.

Bisping is a smart fighter and I doubt he comes out "guns blazing".

Would anyone really be +640 shocked if Rockhold took a decision? I'd be far more surprised at Faber winning, and that's down to +425 (aka lighting money on fire)

Along that same line of thought I think the o 1.5 at +money is pretty great.


You're focusing too much on +640, instead of what's most likely to happen.

Also, I assume you didn't read what I posted in comment #7.

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iakim322   United States. Jun 01 2016 07:07. Posts 1335

I like Andrade to grind out a probably boring win vs Penne. Should be able to dictate clinches into some TD's just wearing Penne down using a noticeable strength advantage coming down in weight vs a not big 115'er. And Penne doesn't hit hard enough to expose Andrade's kinda weak chin

Also the over on the Llamas/Holloway fight. Thinking Ricardo is going to fight in a way where it'll be difficult for Holloway to finish him


soberstone   United States. Jun 01 2016 15:48. Posts 2662


  On June 01 2016 05:24 PuertoRican wrote:
Show nested quote +


You're focusing too much on +640, instead of what's most likely to happen.

Also, I assume you didn't read what I posted in comment #7.


Nah I didn't see that, touché.

I know comparing odds isn't an accurate way to gauge whether one has inherent value, just an example.

All that said fighters do what they do, not what they say. I still think the over has value.


alejandicto   . Jun 01 2016 17:42. Posts 865

I am going big on Rockhold + Cruz. Cant see an scenario where they lose :/

Possible bets:

- Lombard by KO (Dont know the odds yet)
- Bobby green (+180)

 Last edit: 01/06/2016 17:47

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Jun 01 2016 22:55. Posts 9634


  On June 01 2016 16:42 alejandicto wrote:
I am going big on Rockhold + Cruz. Cant see an scenario where they lose :/



Neither does Bisping's son apparantely :D That was the most hilarious thing I've seen on a vlog series


PuertoRican   United States. Jun 01 2016 23:20. Posts 13029





  On June 01 2016 21:55 Spitfiree wrote:
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Neither does Bisping's son apparantely :D That was the most hilarious thing I've seen on a vlog series


Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 01/06/2016 23:23

Minsk   United States. Jun 02 2016 05:49. Posts 1558


  On June 01 2016 05:02 soberstone wrote:
Rockhold by decision up to +640, opened at +330.

This seems kinda nuts.

If Bisping fights conservatively in the first couple rounds, he has a great gas tank and this could absolutely go the distance.

If I was Bisping I'd want to take it into deep water anyway and rely on Rockhold feeling the pressure of being the overwhelming favorite / wanting a spectacular finish / hope he makes a mistake.

Bisping is a smart fighter and I doubt he comes out "guns blazing".

Would anyone really be +640 shocked if Rockhold took a decision? I'd be far more surprised at Faber winning, and that's down to +425 (aka lighting money on fire)

Along that same line of thought I think the o 1.5 at +money is pretty great.



I think he clearly said himself he isn't finishing the fight. Perhaps at +1500 ++ I would consider it, but his son and him both strategeze/prepare for either a lucky victory or gas out and get KOed. Well, actually it's only one of them is preparing for a lucky victory. I don't think they're liars here. Are you calling the Bispings liars?

 Last edit: 02/06/2016 05:51

PuertoRican   United States. Jun 02 2016 05:57. Posts 13029

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