UFC FN 77: Belfort vs. Henderson 3

Date: Saturday, November 7th
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 00:30 LP.net / 3:30pm PST / 6:30pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 1:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card (Fox Sports 1): 3:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
Live Streams: http://firstrowus1.eu/




Main Card (Fox Sports 1)

Vitor Belfort (24-11) vs. Dan Henderson (31-13) (Middleweight)
Glover Teixeira (23-4) vs. Patrick Cummins (8-2) (Light Heavyweight)
Thomas Almeida (19-0) vs. Anthony Birchak (12-2) (Bantamweight)
Alex Oliveira (12-3-1) vs. Piotr Hallmann (15-4) (Lightweight)
Gilbert Burns (10-0) vs. Rashid Magomedov (18-1) (Lightweight)
Fabio Maldonado (22-8) vs. Corey Anderson (6-1) (Light Heavyweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Gleison Tibau (33-11) vs. Abel Trujillo (12-6) (Lightweight)
Yan Cabral (12-1) vs. Johnny Case (21-4) (Lightweight)
Clay Guida (32-15) vs. Thiago Tavares (19-6) (Featherweight)
Kevin Souza (15-3) vs. Chas Skelly (14-1) (Featherweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Viscardi Andrade (17-6) vs. Gasan Umalatov (15-4-1) (Welterweight)
Pedro Munhoz (12-1) vs. Jimmie Rivera (17-1) (Bantamweight)
Bruno Rodrigues (4-0) vs. Matheus Nicolau Pereira (10-1-1) (Flyweight)

Other

- The event is expected to be headlined by a middleweight rubber match between longtime multi-divisional contenders Vitor Belfort and Dan Henderson. Henderson defeated Belfort in their first encounter in 2006 at Pride 32 via unanimous decision. Belfort defeated Henderson in their second encounter in 2013 at UFC Fight Night: Belfort vs. Henderson via first round knockout.
- Tom Lawlor was expected to face Fabio Maldonado at this event. However, Lawlor was forced to pull out due to injury and was replaced by The Ultimate Fighter 19 light heavyweight winner Corey Anderson.

First impression of the match-ups:

• Henderson > Belfort
• Teixeira > Cummins
• Almeida > Birchak
• Oliveira vs. Hallmann (dunno yet, tough to call, and Oliveira is going back to 155 for this fight)
• Magomedov > Burns
• Anderson > Maldonado (18 days short-notice fight for Anderson)
• Trujillo > Tibau
• Case > Cabral
• Guida > Tavares
• Souza vs. Skelly (dunno yet, tough fight)
• Andrade > Umalatov
• Munhoz > Rivera
• Rodrigues vs. Pereira (dunno)


Even in the fights where I picked a winner, there's a lot of close fights on this card that can go either way. I'm glad I'm not placing any bets.

Munhoz might get disrespected by the bookies, so if he for some reason opens at -150 or better, I'd go big on him. He's better than Rivera in every aspect of MMA, plus he's bigger, plus he's a finisher, and he's fighting in his home country.

Don't understand why Pat Cummins is such a big dog. I am going big on him here.

It's because Pat Cummins is trash, and Texeira is very good.

I don't see what is so good about Teixeira. He is overrated, he is old and had big problems in his last two fights against wrestlers. Cummins nearing +400 is crazy for me.

With all due respect PuertoRican but how and based on what do you think that a 45 year old Dan Henderson with a 2-5 record in past 7 fights is a favorite over an 38 year old Vitor Belfort? Agreed Belfort lost to Henderson 9 years ago. But since then Vitor went 10-3 and also beat Henderson in the process. I know Vitor is off TRT, but so is Hendo and Vitor only lost to Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and Chris Weidman,3 of arguably top 5 Fighters in the world at that time. Vitor also gave Weidman trouble in the beginning, its not like Weidman cruised to a win, the ending looked awful for Vitor but in the beginning he was quite dangerous.
Henderson has a 1 punch knock out trick and he is way way past his prime. I agree that Hendo has a punchers chance but thats about it, betting on Hendo UNLESS there are sick odds like +500 seems quite bad. I mean Vitor has tendencies to fold and look bad when he loses and Hendo has the tendency to have big upset potential, but come on betting on Hendo is not based on facts or math but can only be explained by sick odds or a fanboy background

Belfort > Henderson (slammed the under 1.5 at -120 when it opened, Henderson will get KO'd within 2 minutes most likely, he has a punchers chance and thats it, no way he can grapple-fuck Vitor, guy can barely bend over)
Texiera > Cummins
Almeida > Birchek (Fight is probably closer than odds indicate but its in Brazil so I'm not touching it)
Oliveira > Hallman - Close fight tho, odds opened wayyyy too wide and they reset them
Magomedov vs Burns - Pickem (Just depends where fight takes place and how much, if at all, Burns has improved his overall game, Magomedov is clearly the better all-around fighter but not sure it will matter)
Anderson >>>>>> Maldanado - Shouldn't even be close, this is the lock of the card
Trujillo > Tibau - Interested to see odds on this one
Case > Cabral
Tavares > Guida
Skelly > Souza - Very close could go either way but I lean grappler
Andrade > Umalatov - Wouldn't bet it either way, not a good read on the fight, just my lean
Rivera > Munhoz - Same as last pick

Bets:

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On November 02 2015 19:22 FiSheYe wrote: With all due respect PuertoRican but how and based on what do you think that a 45 year old Ben Henderson with a 2-5 record in past 7 fights is a favorite over an 38 year old Vitor Belfort? Agreed Belfort lost to Henderson 9 years ago. But since then Vitor went 10-3 and also beat Henderson in the process. I know Vitor is off TRT, but so is Hendo and Vitor only lost to Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and Chris Weidman,3 of arguably top 5 Fighters in the world at that time. Vitor also gave Weidman trouble in the beginning, its not like Weidman cruised to a win, the ending looked awful for Vitor but in the beginning he was quite dangerous. Henderson has a 1 punch knock out trick and he is way way past his prime. I agree that Hendo has a punchers chance but thats about it, betting on Hendo UNLESS there are sick odds like +500 seems quite bad. I mean Vitor has tendencies to fold and look bad when he loses and Hendo has the tendency to have big upset potential, but come on betting on Hendo is not based on facts or math but can only be explained by sick odds or a fanboy background

I have to agree, it is debatable whether or not betting Vitor at this point is worth it but to pick Hendo outright is crazy to me.

Anyone really think the Vitor that fought Weidman wouldn't absolutely murder the guy that Mousasi put out with a not hard right cross?

I bet on Hendo vs Boetsch, while others on here were picking Boetsch laughing at the idea that Hendo could do anything, so its not as tho I have a hard on for hating on Dan or loving Vitor. This matchup just seems so straightforward to me. Hendo can't grapple, Vitor won't grapple, Vitor is a better striker with faster hands, a better chin, and doesn't move like a 45 year old cuz he's not 45. Be pretty surprised if Hendo won but of course hes got the H-bomb so I guess you never know (pretty sure I do tho)

On November 02 2015 13:34 northsails wrote: I don't see what is so good about Teixeira. He is overrated, he is old and had big problems in his last two fights against wrestlers. Cummins nearing +400 is crazy for me.

If it wasn't in Brazil I'd agree but I think the odds are pretty correct here considering Cummins will have to do something pretty dominant to win.

On November 02 2015 19:22 FiSheYe wrote: With all due respect PuertoRican but how and based on what do you think that a 45 year old Ben Henderson with a 2-5 record in past 7 fights is a favorite over an 38 year old Vitor Belfort? Agreed Belfort lost to Henderson 9 years ago. But since then Vitor went 10-3 and also beat Henderson in the process. I know Vitor is off TRT, but so is Hendo and Vitor only lost to Anderson Silva, Jon Jones and Chris Weidman,3 of arguably top 5 Fighters in the world at that time. Vitor also gave Weidman trouble in the beginning, its not like Weidman cruised to a win, the ending looked awful for Vitor but in the beginning he was quite dangerous. Henderson has a 1 punch knock out trick and he is way way past his prime. I agree that Hendo has a punchers chance but thats about it, betting on Hendo UNLESS there are sick odds like +500 seems quite bad. I mean Vitor has tendencies to fold and look bad when he loses and Hendo has the tendency to have big upset potential, but come on betting on Hendo is not based on facts or math but can only be explained by sick odds or a fanboy background

I'd take Ben Henderson over Vitor Belfort if they were scheduled to fight.

Regarding Dan Henderson, his last win was fast, but I like what I saw from him in terms of movement. Granted, his opponent basically walked right into his big bomb.

Vitor is off TRT now, and he needs it, where as Henderson doesn't need it nearly as much. What made me pick Henderson outright is cuz he has a good chin, better cardio, and never loses his aggression and power in a fight. Vitor looked terrible on fight-day in his last fight and gassed out after his big flurry against Weidman, and was easily mounted and finished.

I think this will be the last we see of Vitor, unless he takes a full year off afterward.

Also, as I always state in my first picks, they're my first impression, not my final pick before placing a bet.

Henderson and a good chin - wtf, he is getting rocked with every punch that lands on him now. His chin WAS legendary, but that was years ago. He is an old man now and what kind of a cardio advantage does he have on Vitor? He is gassed after 2 minutes in the first round. He is looking like a zombie strolling around the cage, it is very sad to watch.

Tim Boetch threw the last fight away being an absolute retard running head first into his right hand in the beginning of the fight. I can't see him doing that to Vitor and I can't imagine him surviving a Vitor flurry. Belfort is going to catch him and put him away early, I am almost certain of that.

Main fight reminds me of that movie with Deniro and Sylvester Stallone called Grudge Match. Where they're both old now, and finally decided to fight. The movie was a comedy.

This is it boys, 8 UFC events in 7 weeks.



PS waiting on soberstone's bets, dude is a beast.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ufc-s-ne...rogram-isn-t-adding-up-181947896.html

Edit Never mind I thought I was the idiot who called Dan, Ben. That wasn't me, so I take back my apology.

PS - If you think Vitor won't be cheating in Sao Paolo when he was still cheating vs Weidman, you got another thing coming.

I'd bet my life at -9999 that Vitor is still cheating. Just not as badly so he looks like a weird guy who has certain parts of his body on roids and others not.

I actually really like Cummins too but you can only be so heavy on a guy that's as one dimensional as him. Something a little interesting...Pat came on the Anik/Florian podcast for an interview...said he's trained with Glover several times before. The usual confidence thing (the good, seemingly genuine kind...not overly so or outrageous) but he conceded that the one thing that stands out about Glover is that he just feels naturally really strong in the clinch etc. Seems like that's a really good attribute to have for takedown defense. And I'm not yet convinced Cummins wouldn't get tooled by a Kimbo Slice level street fighter if takedowns were a no go.

Vitor > Henderson. Besides agreeing with most of Fisheye and Soberstone's points... and this is maybe being a bit naively stubborn or paranoid...but it's Vitor and it's in Brazil. I'm not sure I could be fully convinced he's not on some sneaky shit even if I was staring at negative test results straight in the face. I personally would really love it though if PR was right and this is the last we see of him.

Agree that Anderson > Maldonado should be a lock. Going to pick him up in all DK lineups. Only slightly concerning thing is that it is kind of a short notice fight but the guy said he wanted to be really active and is entering his physical prime. Shouldn't run out of gas and even if he does, Maldonado sucks.

On November 03 2015 02:41 iakim322 wrote: I actually really like Cummins too but you can only be so heavy on a guy that's as one dimensional as him. Something a little interesting...Pat came on the Anik/Florian podcast for an interview...said he's trained with Glover several times before. The usual confidence thing (the good, seemingly genuine kind...not overly so or outrageous) but he conceded that the one thing that stands out about Glover is that he just feels naturally really strong in the clinch etc. Seems like that's a really good attribute to have for takedown defense. And I'm not yet convinced Cummins wouldn't get tooled by a Kimbo Slice level street fighter if takedowns were a no go.

I agree. If this was in the US I'd play Cummins at current odds but if he has his best performance and its a closely contested bout where hes getting the worst of it on the feet but has a decent amount of time in 'control', I think Glover gets the decision 6/7 times in Sao Paolo, so really, how's Cummins win outside of Glover not coming in shape (def a possibility like vs Davis and he is only getting older) and getting completely top-controlled for 10+ minutes.

The way I see it is Glover KO's him early or late or wins a close decision. Not rly going out on a limb but if Pat hangs around long enough to lose a decision, I don't expect it would be 1-sided, just easy for Brazilian judges to score.

Edit: Thinking more about the fight and the dynamic, I really think Cummins may be more live than originally thought about 5 minutes ago, lol. If he is super light and quick on his feet while Glover is the opposite and if he can avoid the pocket (showing a better sense of range and patience than he has in the past) he may be able to frustrate Glover and take him down and gas him. He's an intelligent guy so I could so it happening. That said I'm still gonna need much better odds to play him.

On November 02 2015 21:13 soberstone wrote: Henderson will get KO'd within 2 minutes most likely

how times have changed

Btw. to add to the DAN Henderson vs Vitor argument, look at the last fight
Vitor vs Weidman loss


compared to the 2 last losses of Hendo vs Mousasi


and Cormier, since getting KOed by Vitor


I wouldn't find a good reason why someone should bet on Hendo, the only thing he has going for him is that Vitor is not much of a long range fighter with his punches, but since Vitor is awesome with kicks these days this might not hold true anymore either.
I would love to see Vitor being great without steroids but I guess he abused them his whole life and he is depending on them, so he will either be banned for abuse or fizzle out of the rankings soonish. Also I am not convinced that Hendo stopped juicing, the guy has used TRT as well which is very indicative that he might have abuse prior as well.
Let both juice to the tits and offer a great old school fight, then retire them both for good.

double post, plz remove

Not that I think it matters in this fight, but Vitor Belfort left the Blackzilians. He has his own team, and is training part time with some other local team. Vitor said he always brought in extra guys to help him with his camps at the Blackzilians, but who knows.

Anyway, since Hendo won't bring anything new to the octagon for this fight, Vitor won't be in a bad spot when compared to if he were facing a guy who evolves every now and then.

WOW. Will Brooks opens at -300 vs Marcin Held. SLAMMED that shit.

Also like Justin Lawrence at -190.

Hendo's chin is becoming more and more Lidellish these days. Vitor's rarely getting KO'ed which is the only chance Hendo has in this fight.

On November 03 2015 22:16 FiSheYe wrote: I wouldn't find a good reason why someone should bet on Hendo, the only thing he has going for him is that Vitor is not much of a long range fighter with his punches, but since Vitor is awesome with kicks these days this might not hold true anymore either. I would love to see Vitor being great without steroids but I guess he abused them his whole life and he is depending on them, so he will either be banned for abuse or fizzle out of the rankings soonish. Also I am not convinced that Hendo stopped juicing, the guy has used TRT as well which is very indicative that he might have abuse prior as well. Let both juice to the tits and offer a great old school fight, then retire them both for good.

TRT Vitor >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regular Vitor while TRT Hendo >> Regular Hendo. I have no actual evidence behind this thought but I'm guessing this is why some people seem to think Hendo has a good or better chance this time around. Under the assumption that Vitor will be clean. Public's opinion about a fighter heavily revolves around their last fight and people will just remember Vitor's head getting smashed by Weidman and that it was supposedly his first time clean in awhile. While forgetting that he actually did have some good moments and also forgetting the fact that Weidman is kind of a monster when he's on top of you.

But yeah I agree Vitor should be a pretty heavy favorite. Still though. Fuck that guy. Love Jesus!

Look Vitor is a cheater, like many.

He is hypocritical in his religiosity yet non-Jesus-like behavior, like many. I'm with all that. It's lame.

But the way the MMA UG and media treats Vitor Belfort, you'd think he'd actually broken a law like a lot of other fighters, or maybe beaten a women, like a lot of fighters, or murdered someone, like other fighters. I think the general level of Vitor Belfort American hatred is a little overboard.

Dude's sister got kidnapped and murked and he didn't know whether she was alive or dead for like 2 years or some shit. He used it as motivation, and I believe that. That's something to like about Vitor Belfort. He also has provided us endless entertainment that we willingly pay for.

Maybe I'm a hypocrite because I felt the Vitor hate coming into the Weidman fight. But Weidman is my boy... :D

Edit: Sorry, just an irrelevant hot-take on my part.

I am with you soberstone. I like Vitor and I think his religious believes and positive self talk actually enabled him to have these sick performances in the past years. I am following Vitor for 6years+ now so I can relate to what you said. I think Vitors biggest weakness is and has always been his mind, he barely gets hurt (breaks hands a lot but so do others) and he has good to great ground game (which we never see because his hands are so damn awesome). The old Vitor would have capitalized differently on the exchanges vs Weidman, and might have KOed him with the same shots being offered (shots seemed way worse in terms of aim, timing, power and speed). Dan Henderson is a freak of nature, his skin and bone structure is different to normal humans but he is more like a Tree that you cannot bend. Super strong but very unflexible and quite weak on the ground compared to his wrestling degree (lack of BJJ). If Vitor would have the mindset of Weidman, Jones or Connor I would bet the house on Vitor, but he is known to fold in the past (albeit being much better at it the past years). When he fought Weidman he reminded me of Schaub vs Browne, where it looked like the one guy is just physically that much more dominant.
Hendo just seems way past his prime, guy has old men strenght and old men punching power. This is more a question of where Vitor is with changing camps, adjusting to lack of sterioids and so forth, there is a high chance Vitor cycled sterioids vs Weidman and has to stop this time due to more testing. If that is the case then he will be far inferior to what we have seen last time.

Vitor is coming off a loss and has sick media shitstorm comimg his way past few days, add a terrible pr work of his wife on top of it and changing camps and I can see why he might be in trouble.
Dan on the other hand prob. fucks his hot wife a ton and plays with his kids, he seems to be mainly picking up pay checks and fizzling out like a Nogueira.

Actually this fight is more about who is at a worse stage in his career, less so about who is the better fighter, which is sad (race to the bottom)

There's a good Bellator card on tomorrow, but I won't have time to watch it.


Patrício Freire vs. Daniel Straus (Featherweight Championship)
Will Brooks vs. Marcin Held (Lightweight Championship)
Emmanuel Sanchez vs. Justin Lawrence
Michael Chandler vs. David Rickels
Bobby Lashley vs. James Thompson

On November 06 2015 00:08 PuertoRican wrote: There's a good Bellator card on tomorrow, but I won't have time to watch it. Patrício Freire vs. Daniel Straus (Featherweight Championship) Will Brooks vs. Marcin Held (Lightweight Championship) Emmanuel Sanchez vs. Justin Lawrence Michael Chandler vs. David Rickels Bobby Lashley vs. James Thompson

Very solid card. If anyone hasn't seen Bobby Lashley vs James Thompson I, I really enjoyed it (which is insane for a Lashley fight). I am not betting Straus but I am picking him, along with Brooks, Lawrence, and Chandler (betting those guys), and the Lashley fight seems like a pickem to me - I'm considering a small bet on Thompson since hes at +300 and its Bellator heavyweights and he won the first fight and is younger.

Will Brooks is def a top 10 LW in the world, which is like being a Top 3 Middleweight. He's a very good fighter. I can't believe he only opened at -300 vs Held - a leg-lock specialist who albeit has improved but is still worse everywhere. Sure he's got the 'submitters' chance but no way its 1/4... more like 1/15.

Old but basically underlines what I am saying:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/24...end-dan-hendersons-problematic-career

I feel like theres a little bit of value on Belfort, Hendersons fights are usually pretty predictable and here it just doesn't make much sense for him to win. I learned this lesson betting on Tim Boesch, where it made sense for Henderson to win, and I didn't listen. Here it just doesn't make sense though.

It can happen, but only because of Vitors mind/body inconsistencies, not because Dan Henderson has anything to offer, except for a lucky old man's powershot. Just want to protect people from thinking "Oh Dan has this highlight knockout of Bisping and Fedor, that guy is dangerous", as seen in the article the fights he won were under TRT. Ever since he stopped, he is basically a clumpsy old veteran on his way out, a fight like vs Mousasi is the perfect example.

Vitor Belfort (185) vs. Dan Henderson (186)
Patrick Cummins (206) vs. Glover Teixeira (206)
Thomas Almeida (135) vs. Anthony Birchak (136)
Piotr Hallmann (155) vs. Alex Oliveira (156)
Gilbert Burns (156) vs. Rashid Magomedov (155)
Corey Anderson (205) vs. Fabio Maldonado (205)
Gleison Tibau (155) vs. Abel Trujillo (156)
Yan Cabral (156) vs. Johnny Case (156)
Clay Guida (146) vs. Thiago Tavares (146)
Chas Skelly (146) vs. Kevin Souza (146)
Viscardi Andrade (170) vs. Gasan Umalatov (170)
Pedro Munhoz (135) vs. Jimmie Rivera (136)
Matheus Nicolau (135) vs. Bruno Korea (134)

Fuck Justin Lawrence. Just doubled down on Brooks. Don't understand this line at all.

Vitor and Hendo both looked very soft in weight ins. Like compared to their prime physically they appear 2 weight-classes lower. Vitor didn't even looked like he sucked down much weight for this fight (belly fat and his movement on the stage was not as confident/strong as you would expect, almost timid). It's gonna be interesting to see where they stand skillwise

Dan Henderson looked the same as his last 3 fights, which were all at 185. His 6 UFC fights before that were at 205.

Vitor looked soft as expected, but* not sickly like he did against Weidman. Yesterday, his chest was flat and on the verge of sagging, and he was trying his best to suck in his stomach to show his remaining abs. He's probably not 100% clean, but he isn't big like he used to be.

Thank you Will Brooks for being a beast and not getting knee-barred last night, +$125 on Bellaforce

Bets for today's UFC:

UFC FN
Henderson / Belfort u 1.5 Rounds O/U -120 $240.00
Belfort Rd 1 PROP 120 $50.00
Belfort Rd 2 PROP 500 $17.50
Cummins wins by Decision PROP 479 $25.00
Cummins > Texiera SU 415 $25
Oliveria wins by Decision PROP 159 $25.00
Trujillo > Tibeu (SCORECARDS = No Action) PROP -210 $105.00
Anderson > Maldanado SU -420 $525.00
Anderson wins ITD PROP 238 $50.00
Case > Cabral SU -260 $195.00
Tavares > Guida SU 135 $75.00
Tavares wins by Decision PROP 385 $50.00
Andrade > Umalatov SU 110 $50.00
Jimmie Rivera / Pedro Munhoz O 2.5 O/U -175 $100.63
Belfort (-290) + Oliveira (-230) + Magomedov (-210) + Anderson (-600) + Trujillo (105) + Case (-250) + Tavares (+130) + Skelly (-170) + Andrade o 2.5 (-185) + Rivera o 2.5 (-175) PL 8,334 $2.00

I'm going to follow the
Henderson / Belfort u 1.5 Rounds SU -120 $240.00

seems really good actually.

Wait. How did you get it at -120? Was that a real line? heh.
I'm about to take it at -155

On November 07 2015 20:50 Minsk wrote: I'm going to follow the Henderson / Belfort u 1.5 Rounds SU -120 $240.00 seems really good actually. Wait. How did you get it at -120? Was that a real line? heh. I'm about to take it at -155

Yes. I've been posting my bets in my spoiler on the first page the whole time. Its what I always do. Check bestfightodds.com for lines/histories/movement etc. Lines move bud

I also started on cappertek.com a few months ago and became a pro on there about a month ago. factsntruth1.cappertek.com . You can 'buy' my picks (obviously no1 here would cuz I just post them on here) but I just do it to have 3rd party proof in case I ever feel good enough / have the desire to make a website, etc.

I'm glad most of the fights are on free tv today. I can watch from my big television.

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I forgot about Daylights Savings time when I made this thread. The first fight starts at 00:30 LP.net time.

Weird strategy from Munhoz. He was kick-heavy, while Rivera won a split-decision due to just throwing a lot more punches.

Good fights so far - Munoz and Rivera are both legit, Andrade and Umalatov are bad, hit the first 3 bets, hope its an omen.

Slick submission from Skelly.

He pointed to his foot or ankle after the fight ended. I guess he got hurt at some point.

On November 08 2015 01:15 PuertoRican wrote: Slick submission from Skelly. He pointed to his foot or ankle after the fight ended. I guess he got hurt at some point.

Yah good catch, broke his foot. I like Skelly, tough SOB who will fight through fatigue.

Bam Tavares hits, 5/5 on picks, hail mary coming along nicely.

Dumb ass Guida... He gave Tavares the only out he had to win.

Why he'd instantly go to the ground against a ground specialist with a weak chin is beyond me.

BAM. Thatta boy Johnny. Way to not get robbed.

Weak performance from Case. He clearly won, but he should've pushed the pace a little more. He got comfortable landed free shots and lost his sense of urgency along the way.

Hah. Ofcourse first loss of the night is on a robbery. Trujillo was not out. It was close but he escaped. Total blowing of the fight by Keith Peterson.

Mike Bohn ?@MikeBohnMMA 2m2 minutes ago

Johnny Case just told me backstage that he suffered a broken hand and broken foot in his fight. Makes win over Cabral that much better.

What a beast.

The main card has sucked thus far.

I've been watching hockey and boxing during most of these 3 main card fights.

Yah if you were watching the Bradley fight I had him by decision. Rios really showed up terribly and got stopped via body shots in the 8th. Sucked.

Oliveira KO in the 3rd was brutal. Looking like Trujillo and that terrible stoppage (even though he was probably gonna lose anyway) is gonna be the thing that ruins the $2 hail mary parlay. Lame.

Hopefully Almeida vs Bichak is fire. It should be.

WoW.

Sick KO by Almeida. Too bad Birchak did nothing he said he was gonna do, nor what he trained to do. And he gassed, to boot.

main card is heating up

anyone got a working link?

Just added $25 on Cummins SU at +425. Odds too wide imo.

Nice performance by Glover, not slowing down apparently

Glover beat some ass as expected.

Let's go Hendo~

On November 08 2015 05:04 Stim_Abuser wrote: anyone got a working link?

fixalen.tv

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Another early stoppage by Mario Yamasaki, imo.

Henderson was in a bad spot, but Yamasaki didn't give Henderson the chance to fight through adversity.

Anyway, there's a ton of MMA coming up between now and the end if the year, so whatever.

soberstone, buddy fuckin genius. Cheers

+$379.25 on the night, $4 bucks short of 5k on the year.

Next week's card is the juiciest card in a long time for betting IMO. Already have a lot of juice down. Excited. The Rousey vs Holm fight is going to be very competitive and shock a lot of people.

I also think Holm is a live dog, was expecting to open like rousey -300~ 350, but shes -1800 at the moment WTF

On November 08 2015 12:46 drone666 wrote: I also think Holm is a live dog, was expecting to open like rousey -300~ 350, but shes -1800 at the moment WTF

na -350 makes no sense.

But i think -1800 is way too much. Holm should be around +1000 maybe

lol anyone who thinks holm has a chance is fucking retarded.

I kind of agree Holly Holm has the tools to frustrate Rousey, but I still can't really see her winning the fight. Sooner or later she will wound up in clinch and on the ground and Ronda is going to finish her.

This odds are absolutely crazy though. To put in perspective how crazy they are Holly Holm is bigger dog than Bethe Correia ( LOOL) - the worst figher to ever compete for title in the UFC. Can Holly decision Ronda??
At +3200 I will surely put some money on it.

On November 08 2015 19:35 flounder44 wrote: lol anyone who thinks holm has a chance is fucking retarded.

Strong words. She will probably win the fight, but she's vastly over-rated at this point, while Holm is vastly under-rated.

I think I can beat hendo in a 1v1 lol

her striking is overrated... you dont need to be an analyst or w/e jus watch any of her fights. I was pretty pissed when they announced opponent change. Holly is way too slow, lacks power, and she's been ko'ed before. Chael said it best... all of her 17 championships are invalid (fought bums in bum organizations). I feel like I would win an mma fight vs Holly... and ronda would would kill 2 of me at the same time if i fought her.

On November 08 2015 07:25 soberstone wrote: +$379.25 on the night, $4 bucks short of 5k on the year. Next week's card is the juiciest card in a long time for betting IMO. Already have a lot of juice down. Excited. The Rousey vs Holm fight is going to be very competitive and shock a lot of people.

I'm really curious what makes you think this, because she looked so damn mediocre in her fights so far (vs Pennington for instance, who isn't awful I guess but is so far removed from Rousey's level they almost aren't competing in the same sport).

Thanks for the picks Soberstone.

Holm's striking is overall superior to Rousey's, if she can keep the whole fight striking she should actually have an edge. I thought she might have a chance, but had a hard time believing it fully without other people saying that. I would certainly favor betting Holm over betting Rousey, but don't know how much of a chance she has.

Wow, I think the O1.5 at 4.25 is excellent. She might not beat Rousey, but can very possibly be the first person to last over 1.5 rounds.

Tate made it to rd3 in their 2nd fight