UFC 191: Johnson vs. Dodson 2 - Page 7

On September 09 2015 00:20 soberstone wrote: Sometimes narratives become so ingrained in the general dynamic of something that it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think Ronda Rousey is just perfect place, perfect time, I find nothing special about her whatsoever and could care less about watching her squash women in fights that are border-line unconscionable.

I agree Ronda is not a lot more interesting than MM, but there is a few key difference between the 2:

#1 Ronda is more charismatic and is more sexy
#2 Her matches are more fun to watch


This being said, my level of interest for a Ronda fight isn't a lot higher than for a MM fight.
Most interesting fights comming up are whitout a doubt 145 and 185, which i really can't wait to see.

Ronda has more attention because her style is fun to watch, she is a finisher, besides she is an average normal woman in terms of size. However Demetrious is like a dwarf beating other dwarfs, it will be more entertaining if he fought a person of another division or if he beats a big man, that would be impressive to watch.

What are you all discussing exactly and why? MM is MM, hes not going to change, fans arent going to change, what is exactly the point of this discussion that he doesn't draw the crowds that others do at the current moment? The only thing this discussion will really do is give him more fans in the future. Other than that nothing is going to change.

Soberstone, to say Dodson didn't get dominated had nothing to do with his mindset is blind. I fully agree that MM is 18x better than anyone else, and his body isn't actually worse than Dodson as was expected. But Dodson took away from himself any chance he had of winning that fight by marching to MM's tune, a clear example is not being able to get to level 3 and higher to scare MM. It's not that Dodson should normally win, but he has plenty of skills to make himself live, which were absent, so his mental game and choices put him into a drawing dead position. It's not that he would have won if he was stronger mentally, but he would have had chances.

Those types of fighters like Floyd Mayweather / MM have different peaks than other superstars. People come to see them for different reasons at different points in their careers. It's incorrect to compare the numbers straight up like that.

People like clownfests thats all
Thats why McGregor got so popular over such a short time. It's not like he s a sensational fighter, he just goes on stage - tells everyone to fuck off and that he s the shit cuz he s what sells the fights and it's not like he s wrong, but thats what people wanna see ... a clownfest

Rousey on the other hand is a strong independant woman with the mindset of a true winner while being very dominant at her division at the right time, MMA s booming right now and a story such as Rousey is just blasted through media. I can bet your ass 80% of ppl that know who Rousey is haven't ever heard of Anderson Silva or Jon Jones which are possibly the 2 biggest names in the UFC past years?

There are a bunch of factors that click together right.

I was thinking about why Mayweather is such a superstar and the answer is kind of obvious .. cuz he s a clown as well. It's not like he s an entertaining boxer. Sure he s obviously the best and will probably retire undefeated, but people are there cause of the image he has in the media and he s built it well. After all who isn't curious about a guy that literally can't read that gets millions to fight and posts pictures of his random baller lifestyle while being an undefeated champion

You cant be a midget, fight in a boring way, have no outstanding personality and have no interesting narrative or rivalries... people wont watch that, simple as that.

On September 11 2015 01:00 Spitfiree wrote: People like clownfests thats all Thats why McGregor got so popular over such a short time. It's not like he s a sensational fighter, he just goes on stage - tells everyone to fuck off and that he s the shit cuz he s what sells the fights and it's not like he s wrong, but thats what people wanna see ... a clownfest Rousey on the other hand is a strong independant woman with the mindset of a true winner while being very dominant at her division at the right time, MMA s booming right now and a story such as Rousey is just blasted through media. I can bet your ass 80% of ppl that know who Rousey is haven't ever heard of Anderson Silva or Jon Jones which are possibly the 2 biggest names in the UFC past years? There are a bunch of factors that click together right. I was thinking about why Mayweather is such a superstar and the answer is kind of obvious .. cuz he s a clown as well. It's not like he s an entertaining boxer. Sure he s obviously the best and will probably retire undefeated, but people are there cause of the image he has in the media and he s built it well. After all who isn't curious about a guy that literally can't read that gets millions to fight and posts pictures of his random baller lifestyle while being an undefeated champion

McGregor's popularity is not just his personality imo

He is insanely fun to watch, his style is like mesmerizing
His trash talk is interesting, similar to Nick Diaz
He is insanely dominant, and people truly believe he is a favorite over the all time champ Aldo

It's probably insulting to be comparing him to Diaz as McGregor is actually really really smart at least I feel that way from what I've seen in interviews and etc.
He is very aware of where he is and he abuses that to the fullest on top of that he is aware of how to build an entertaining image. Don't get me wrong what he's done is something extraordinary and hard to accomplish, but he s not just a fighter - he takes it to the next level. If he takes the title he ll go global like Rousey imo

On September 11 2015 22:45 Spitfiree wrote: It's probably insulting to be comparing him to Diaz as McGregor is actually really really smart at least I feel that way from what I've seen in interviews and etc. He is very aware of where he is and he abuses that to the fullest on top of that he is aware of how to build an entertaining image. Don't get me wrong what he's done is something extraordinary and hard to accomplish, but he s not just a fighter - he takes it to the next level. If he takes the title he ll go global like Rousey imo

There is no doubt McGregor is way more than Diaz. I was just stating that trash talking like Diaz does is something that attracts viewers, and McGregor does it very well. The difference between the 2 is, McGregor has way more than just trash talking.

i cant scroll down or up on sherdog, is anyone experiencing the same? cant read any of it basically

Invicta FC 14 just started 5 minutes ago. Here's the card:

Tonya Evinger vs. Pannie Kianzad
Katja Kankaanpaa vs. DeAnna Bennett
Roxanne Modafferi vs. Mariana Morais
Rachael Ostovich vs. Andrea Lee
Cindy Dandois vs. Megan Anderson
Jamie Moyle vs. Sharon Jacobson
Jinh Yu Frey vs. Liz McCarthy
JJ Aldrich vs. Rosa Acevedo
Aspen Ladd vs. Amanda Bobby Cooper
Rachel Wiley vs. Felicia Spencer

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Also, Floyd Mayweather Jr's "final fight" is tonight against Andre Berto.

Everything is available on the same websites we always use to watch MMA.

McGeary down to -600 yay

On September 06 2015 15:51 Nazgul wrote: Heads up on McGeary vs Ortiz betting $1800 on that one at -450. Would probably have bet it all the way to -650. Also Holloway -320 vs Stephens.

thanks for the heads up. got him at -470, hes now -1000. Great tips

anyone watching bellator???

On September 20 2015 02:16 Zadan wrote: anyone watching bellator???

Yep.

Some decent fights thus far. Nothing amazing, but decent nonetheless.

Who do u got for Davis / mo ?

On September 20 2015 02:53 Zadan wrote: Who do u got for Davis / mo ?

I like King Mo over Davis.

Lol Wtf carmont vs Davis

Fedor returns to MMA on New Years Eve, at an event in Japan. Spike TV will air the event in America.

King Mo got his ribs injured in his fight against Linton Vassell, and the doctors wouldn't clear him to fight Phil Davis. Linton Vassell also didn't get cleared to fight Davis, so Francis Carmont was their last option.

Fucking fedor, knew it was too good to be true for him to go to UFC