Stars raises rake of HU,hypers,spin&go - Page 4

the butthurt lol

the only regs complaining about HU are the ones that went to 6max because they can't bumhunt HU since there are zillions of bumhunters already
last month 80% of my action was vs regs, so theres a lot of action

they introduced zoom, and the same regs keep crying "oh but zoom is different", they will introduce KOTH and the same regs will keep complaining "oh but I dont want to play the top regs in the world", what they really want is to have fishs in their games

On November 04 2014 09:19 drone666 wrote: the only regs complaining about HU are the ones that went to 6max because they can't bumhunt HU since there are zillions of bumhunters already last month 80% of my action was vs regs

So why are there never any HU games running on Full tilt poker, Betfair, Everest (before it turned into ipoker) and Ongame ? I see a lot of talk here and 2+2 about all these people claiming to be willing to "play anyone" but still no HU games ever running except maybe 1-2 totally 200nl to 100.000nl

Pokerstars is different, they have hidden their HU tables to the bottom of the lobby (great solution). Im not talking about Pokerstars. Headsup Zoom is also a great idea.

On November 04 2014 08:28 MadeInPolanD wrote: Oh now it's clear, you want more fish for 6max. Nothing to do with 'what's good for poker'.

Getting rid of all the HU bumhunters and dead lobbies are obviously good for poker yes. (Whatever makes the fish wanting to play again is good for poker). Anyone playing Everest poker remembering when they decided to isolate the dead HU lobby from other cashgames. Had really big effect there. (for everyone)

The solution for HU is KOTH or Zoom HU

the thing is poker is a lot like the american south in the civil war

most of the random guys in the confederate army didn't have wealth or connections to like big plantations and didn't own slaves, but they would still have the personal motivation to fight in an army of a newly formed country because they saw the success of plantation owners and that dream was a part of their life and ethos

similarly on the internet every fish wants to be tom dwan or whatever but they aren't retarded either or maybe i'm overestimating, but surely when they see ads for like spin and go win $ in minutes they can connect the dots to lose $ in minutes. real casinos are different because they are also proxies for tourism and nightlife, i believe online the deposit button shouldn't feel to fish like you are just dumping your paycheck into PS's bank account. i mean maybe there are multiple kinds of fish some just degen but some want to feel like they are playing cards also i would think the slot machine animation would be insulting at some level to them but whatever

i don't understand extortionate HU rake though surely it doesn't cost that much to operate. why drive people away from a format that's popular... and kind of funny spin and go rake goes up so soon after its debut

VanDerMeyde, please write to me in one place...

From: VanDerMeyde
Posts: 4061
Subject: Moron
Date: 11/4 11:53
Christ what a moron u are


Nice conversation skills btw.

Zoom HU seems like the worst idea ever

On November 05 2014 10:42 Spitfiree wrote: Zoom HU seems like the worst idea ever

I nominate hu4rolls for stars to implement and the worst idea ever. You enter a hu cashgame on 4 tables against another player for a fixed amount of money and then watch as 2 computers play eachother, grinding rake until one player busts the other.

On November 05 2014 11:12 cariadon wrote: Show nested quote + On November 05 2014 10:42 Spitfiree wrote: Zoom HU seems like the worst idea ever I nominate hu4rolls for stars to implement and the worst idea ever. You enter a hu cashgame on 4 tables against another player for a fixed amount of money and then watch as 2 computers play eachother, grinding rake until one player busts the other.

2nded

stars on the seat script, and seat blocking issues.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/...-scripting-issues-pokerstars-1487640/

tho I doubt that their planned solution will change anything.

On November 10 2014 02:52 k4ir0s wrote: stars on the seat script, and seat blocking issues. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/...-scripting-issues-pokerstars-1487640/ tho I doubt that their planned solution will change anything.

Good news

imo also this from the 2+2 thread by "Sharkament":

"Great news.

But what I dont understand is this:

Its very obvious (even to those just watching tables) who are using seat scripts and when. It should be even more obvious to you guys.

Why not just forbid the software at least and start banning those who still use it?
Im sure almost everyone would stop using it and you can just continue banning/warning those who dont. Its pretty easy to test aswell...

Am I missing something here?"

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If you wondered what they are going to do with teh moniez:

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Now Amaya won't even let you leave. You want to play on other sites? Too bad, we own them too.

there are no international anti-trust agencies to block a stars party merger? Lol, they will be able to raise rake forever and kill it even faster

ideal poker™ one time!!!

Well looking how Partypoker behaves it would be better for online poker if someone else would buy them, i'd prefer iPoker cause of marketshare issues, but is iPoker giving great experience to players? I dont think so, PokerStars with their software and customerservice owns everyone else which is kinda weird: how hard is to have a brain and work out a good business model thinking: "how would i like to be treated and what would be my priorities while playing" even do reaserch and some polling. But no, lets put money in and expect revenue 'casue people like gambling'.
In a way i must say that competition of PokerStars deserves what they are getting.

On December 13 2014 05:04 MadeInPolanD wrote: In a way i must say that competition of PokerStars deserves what they are getting.

I agree completely. I was looking for new sites to play on (based on traffic, fishiness, and deposit bonuses) and I automatically thought of partypoker. I remember they had the 600$ deposit bonus FOREVER. However, after looking at their site, I couldn't find that anymore. Just some 50$ deposit bonus bs.

I wrote them asking about their deposit bonuses - explaining I'm a high traffic player, etc. etc. Also told them this is the time for them to put some serious effort into regaining market share as there are a lot of discontent pokerstars players willing to move..

It took them over a week to write back. And basically they didn't even touch the content of my email. At all. And said ya, all they have is that tiny bonus. I was amazed.

And that's partypoker - not some other tiny site.

This IS the time for competitors to try something. It's as if they're happy with their current revenue and don't want to ruffle any feathers or something.

Long story short - where the f is the business savvy of their competitors?

big companies tend to use legislation in order to monopolize their market. but im sure even if there was a new pokersite pstars would just buy it b4 it got big.

casino sites that would start counting toward comps when you visit and all the direct satellites imaginable and have your wagers count toward their vip programs, etc. that would be something to see, especially if they made it national

On November 10 2014 11:28 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On November 10 2014 02:52 k4ir0s wrote: stars on the seat script, and seat blocking issues. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/...-scripting-issues-pokerstars-1487640/ tho I doubt that their planned solution will change anything. Good news imo also this from the 2+2 thread by "Sharkament": "Great news. But what I dont understand is this: Its very obvious (even to those just watching tables) who are using seat scripts and when. It should be even more obvious to you guys. Why not just forbid the software at least and start banning those who still use it? Im sure almost everyone would stop using it and you can just continue banning/warning those who dont. Its pretty easy to test aswell... Am I missing something here?"

Does it sound logical to you that Pokerstars would ban a rake paying customer? Me either. The only interest Pokerstars has is to squeeze the juice out of this slowly deflating less juicy lemon called online poker. They aren't interested in the health of the games. They aren't interested in what's best for the poker economy. They're only interested in one thing. How to turn all the money into rake, but keep people coming back for more.