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HAHAHA love it

Thank you pokerstars

On October 24 2014 18:22 VanDerMeyde wrote: HAHAHA love it Thank you pokerstars

Why are you thanking them?

For the Brazilian Series of Poker they are running sats at a rate of 2.09:1 on the Brazilian Real:USD for the package. Depositing rates are almost 2.60 and market rate is at 2.47.

Supernova elite perks such as WCOOP Tickets and 1mi freeroll removed for 2015, drastic VIP changes announced for 2016, Team Pros fired left and right, spin and goes, soon blackjack and roullete.

They are just 100% going for the short term money grab to get the 5 billion back, Amaya is the worst thing that has ever happened to online poker and its not hard to beat Black Friday for that title.

With the current trend over the past 5 years it's obvious that whatever opertational costs or diminished revenues they encounter, they automatically penalize the existing and future players for it. It's an unregulated industry and it's a "vice" and not really some sport, the market has been on the decline so the worst is yet to come. Once the original owners cashed in by selling to Amaya I think it's pretty clear they've jumped ship and moved on to better things with the money they've generated back when it was the wild west.

Just sent this email in and I think I covered the main points. Feel free to edit and email it to them if you like.

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gg peeps time to make money like normal people

I used to be jealous of people in the countries that allowed pokerstars...but the site is dead now

i hope you like the new spin and cashout format there is a 77,380 out of 100,000 chance for a 2.5% fee but a 13,510 out of 100,000 chance for a 5% and so on there is a 5 out of 100,000 chance of a 35% fee jackpot

as usual people can only moan that the situation now is relatively much worse than they got used to before, nevermind that in absolute terms the prior situation was unusually and unreasonably good and now it's more like normal. currency conversion fees are a fact of life, deal with it. don't want to pay 2.5%? Get yourself a bank account in pokerstars currency to cash out to and do the conversion yourself elsewhere. With Citibank I pay something like 1-1.5% iirc.

online poker, particularly the ability of professionals to extract positive expectation, is on the decline. but the reason is not too much to do with amaya's terms.

well what do other sites do though Romm3l

Lol, at least there is a 20$ free from PS right now, should cover some costs t.t

On October 25 2014 09:42 uiCk wrote: Lol, at least there is a 20$ free from PS right now, should cover some costs t.t

where?

got email; use code ADD20 for instant 20$ reload bonus. dunno if its specialized bonus (i bust my PS roll recently)

On October 25 2014 07:24 Santafairy wrote: well what do other sites do though Romm3l

I don't play poker anymore but I used to play on every major site for years. I'm pretty sure you ate the exchange fee every time you deposited/withdrew to/from an account with a different currency to the poker account. Depending on your payment account it would either be your bank or Neteller/Skrill that took the bite out of you. It was only pokerstars that would let you convert currency at the midpoint (something which basically doesn't exist elsewhere in the world).

On October 25 2014 06:50 Romm3l wrote: and unreasonably good and now it's more like normal

you gotta rake 120k $ to reach around 60% rakeback yearly, while all other sites offer this as a standard

extremely good terms indeed

only good thing about ps is that there is a high variety of tables midstakes + and best tournaments of any kind ever, and thats only because they hold the market, sure there are some other perks like using FPP to buy whatever you want and money transfer between players, but all of those are because of the monopoly they hold and vice versa

I'd say that playing there before 200nl is just insane loss of value

On June 13 2014 01:52 Baalim wrote: lol relax everything is the same

On October 25 2014 13:04 Spitfiree wrote: you gotta rake 120k $ to reach around 60% rakeback yearly, while all other sites offer this as a standard

888 and Party, for example.

On October 25 2014 13:04 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On October 25 2014 06:50 Romm3l wrote: and unreasonably good and now it's more like normal you gotta rake 120k $ to reach around 60% rakeback yearly, while all other sites offer this as a standard extremely good terms indeed only good thing about ps is that there is a high variety of tables midstakes + and best tournaments of any kind ever, and thats only because they hold the market, sure there are some other perks like using FPP to buy whatever you want and money transfer between players, but all of those are because of the monopoly they hold and vice versa I'd say that playing there before 200nl is just insane loss of value

I am commenting only on the exchange rate fee introduction when i say it was unreasonably good before, since that is the point of this thread.

though if you're debating general value-for-money per rake dollar, you'll have to show me what you mean by 60% rb being standard on all other sites since that is not as I remember it at all. As I remember, rb like that was an under-the-table deal with shady affilates on dodgy sites named big bong hitters poker or something like that, where there is a decent risk the rakeback you get ends up being negative infinity percent as the site goes belly up along with your roll.

edit: if youre playing below 2/4 bigbet I can see an argument for getting the big rb deal on big bong hitters poker to avoid what you call an insane loss of value. But then again if you're playing below 2/4 then you have to ask whether playing poker at all is an insane loss of value in terms of your time and the other things you could be doing with it.

People are way over reacting imo.

If you manage your shit right, you will end up paying 0 on currency exchange fees so all this ends up being is a bit more of a hassle.

Of course it sucks this is the direction the company is taking but isn't it to be expected? Don't really understand why everyone is tilting so hard at a group spending 5 billion $ on a company and then trying to make money off of it.

If you compare it to what bwin did when they bought out party, what PS has done so far is very reasonable.

For reference:

On February 04 2014 15:20 Daut wrote: updated list of ways party fucked customers: -removed palladium elite and >30% rakeback bonuses -changed structure of bonuses so they take longer to buy and longer to clear -player segregation *later fixed* -removed monthly promotions -3% cashout fee to skrill and other e-wallets -removed online chat support -cut affiliate % in half -never paid back customers for bug that didnt automatically load tournaments starting

complain with yer wallets
otherwise they're just maximizing their edge or whatever which you should all approve of