Hatred

So there's this game being made... Epic wants their logo's removed from it... and um, well just watch the trailer



Free pass for art imitating life?

Postal rip off

Should be illegal.

On October 18 2014 05:08 Minsk wrote: Should be illegal.

cuz it has bad influence right ? :D

If this game doesn't prove that video games don't encourage violence then idk what will lol

Game's title should be "Islam" lol

yes, because Islam is responsible for whenever this has happened

Kind of messed up..

About as lazy game making as there possibly can be

Interesting article/post about the devs. Doesn't seem very legit, but it's worth a read I guess

http://fucknovideogames.tumblr.com/po...cide-simulator-developed-by-neo-nazis
http://www.playerattack.com/news/2014...e-neo-nazi-hate-crime-of-video-games/

Well on the bright side, all the psycho killers instead of psycho killing, will play this game instead. Sort of like rapists and pornography, I think.

lol ridiculous..

im not too against mass state surveillance of internet habits tbh, if we can catch a few idiots who might be planning to go Elliott Rodger.

(in before Baal's "Hatred" reply to this post;D)

On October 18 2014 07:48 Trav94 wrote: Interesting article/post about the devs. Doesn't seem very legit, but it's worth a read I guess http://fucknovideogames.tumblr.com/po...cide-simulator-developed-by-neo-nazis http://www.playerattack.com/news/2014...e-neo-nazi-hate-crime-of-video-games/

heh, I was just about to google the devs expecting to see something like this

This is pretty messed up. Makes GTA seem like nothing.

Poll: Would you play this game?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

this is very similar to a game that came out in the 90's called Postal
just better graphics

the only way this differs from other 3rd person shooters is that they are honest about the goal of the game :D

I wanna check out Alien Isolation

On October 18 2014 10:40 RaiNKhAN wrote: I wanna check out Alien Isolation

Dude... do it! It's scary as fk

On October 18 2014 08:12 MyAnacondaDont wrote: Well on the bright side, all the psycho killers instead of psycho killing, will play this game instead. Sort of like rapists and pornography, I think.

>tfw there are people who honestly believe that psychopaths are thwarted due to video games
>tfw there are people who honestly believe that rapists are thwarted due to porn

On the game topic, just how many people do you think would be out there killing people left and right if it weren't for games? Remember, now, that millions upon millions upon millions of people play games, and because the rate of psychos per 100 people have dramatically risen thanks to.... uhm... GAMES!!!!

i found it funny that he stashed everything into same pocket

On October 18 2014 13:06 MysticJoey wrote: i found it funny that he stashed everything into same pocket

i dunno, first one looks like it could be going in a higher pocket than the second one, and maybe one or two of the others could be going in his belt.

idk how i feel about the game in general but i'd definitely play it out of morbid fascination.

I have tons of perfectly well-adjusted friends who love to play GTA and other "ultra-violent" games, but I doubt if any of the them will want to play this particular title.

A game like GTA V provides entertainment through varied and engaging means in a rich, well-developed environment. Same goes for FPS games like CS:GO. They're violent, sure, but the violence just a significant part in a complex entertainment mechanism. On the other hand, this game seeks to entertain only through pure, unadulterated violence---plot, character development, or strategy be damned. The game limits itself to a one-dimensional focus that places violence, the scourge of human progress, on a pedestal.

I can't possibly fathom how any good might come out of this. What an utter piece of shit.

Or maybe we're all just getting massively trolled by the developers.

Fucking Ebola ruining everything.

On October 18 2014 20:07 collegesucks wrote: I have tons of perfectly well-adjusted friends who love to play GTA and other "ultra-violent" games, but I doubt if any of the them will want to play this particular title. A game like GTA V provides entertainment through varied and engaging means in a rich, well-developed environment. Same goes for FPS games like CS:GO. They're violent, sure, but the violence just a significant part in a complex entertainment mechanism. On the other hand, this game seeks to entertain only through pure, unadulterated violence---plot, character development, or strategy be damned. The game limits itself to a one-dimensional focus that places violence, the scourge of human progress, on a pedestal. I can't possibly fathom how any good might come out of this. What an utter piece of shit. Or maybe we're all just getting massively trolled by the developers.

What? I think people who play it will get bored pretty fast or only play short sessions but video game violence is entertaining to a lot of people. Nothing wrong with it soccer moms of america and no, I'm not planning on a mass shooting anytime soon. I think the holes in the character make him pretty hilarious, listen to the start again, he's so over the top. Agree on the unbalanced 1 sided jacket loadout in the trailer due to his unwillingness to lay down his gun for 3 seconds for fear of looking less badass. The screams when they die and the cop calling for backup against 1 guy inside a police station make me laugh . Maybe that's just my dark sense of humour though

rated E for everyone

But in all seriousness, isn't this the same shit as say, grand theft auto?
just taken to a higher level?


it's not that much different than those saw movies so many of you enjoy

Intense. I'd play it. Don't agree with the knife through a skull, that would definitely dull the blade and you couldn't destroy as many 11 year olds after without it getting grisly.

All in all, looks like a game the whole family can play.

This is terrible lol

says alot about the average gamer huh.

awful but i suppose some people still will find it fun
still im all against the state regulating what we can or can not play

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

Distasteful, hope it gets banned.

it's got like some sweet ps2 graphics

On October 19 2014 09:36 Srsbob wrote: Distasteful, hope it gets banned.

nazi

On October 19 2014 09:36 Srsbob wrote: Distasteful, hope it gets banned.

would make it super valuable on ebay

welp theres a limit to ere thang, including free speech. Dont believe me? Make a blog saying the president sucks and he needs to be assassinated then lets see where that goes. Mature or not blah blah blah im sure a 12 year old can buy one off craigstlist or get someone to buy it for them etc. I'm not familiar with gta games but I think cops deserve a little bit more respect than what is portrayed in some of these games.

On October 20 2014 13:02 flounder44 wrote: I think cops deserve a little bit more respect than what is portrayed in some of these games.

Well said.

On October 20 2014 13:02 flounder44 wrote: welp theres a limit to ere thang, including free speech. Dont believe me? Make a blog saying the president sucks and he needs to be assassinated then lets see where that goes. Mature or not blah blah blah im sure a 12 year old can buy one off craigstlist or get someone to buy it for them etc. I'm not familiar with gta games but I think cops deserve a little bit more respect than what is portrayed in some of these games.

yeah but they are fictional. for instance you would never be up in arms about the portrayal of protoss in blizzard games because protoss are fictional. well you might say there's no real life analogue for protoss since they're aliens, but GTA cops are an invention too, the cities in GTA aren't real, they aren't real police departments. i mean i guess the characters are human, but so are the people in skyrim right? i never played that game but of course it wouldn't make sense to say it disrespects, say, people who go to renaissance fairs. is there something special about police? because what about the army, do the games in the call of duty series (how many are there 6? didn't play those either), do those games disrespect the army?

i don't think some kids playing a video game that an organization controlled by the video game industry rated as adult only is a big deal, did you watch porn before you were 18, did you watch R movies (which by the way ESRB game ratings are more stringent than movie ratings), or is there some unproven secret quality of games because they are interactive that it's somehow worse than other stuff like porn

i notice this stuff happens with feminists also, they can get upset about the portrayal of female characters in video games, although they're only fictional characters so they don't need anybody looking out for their rights. if respect is an issue i would focus first on the police's respect for the citizens they serve, and i would focus last if ever on what kind of art people are making

On October 20 2014 13:02 flounder44 wrote: welp theres a limit to ere thang, including free speech. Dont believe me? Make a blog saying the president sucks and he needs to be assassinated then lets see where that goes. Mature or not blah blah blah im sure a 12 year old can buy one off craigstlist or get someone to buy it for them etc. I'm not familiar with gta games but I think cops deserve a little bit more respect than what is portrayed in some of these games.

What does respecting cops have to do with their portrayal in games (most cops in my experience don't deserve respect anyways- see a couple threads down the civil forfeitures). You really think entertainment needs to be highly concerned with having respectful subject matter and character representations?

This game will sell some copies but won't do great is my guess. Do any of you remember the game ROCKSTAR came out with after GTA that was supposed to be even more hardcore. All you did in this game was go rampaging and point earning by massacring crowds in a mall? I think my friends and I had fun with it for about 15 minutes, played it maybe twice, then popped GTA back in. Seems like this hatred game is a clone except just a little darker with the whole school shooting / trenchcoated loser vibe.

On October 21 2014 13:50 Minsk wrote: There's just no benefit to society vs a potential harm. No reason to allow people to use it. It's not like they invented entertainement, they didn't do anything new, except make it potentially filled with harmful ideas for society.

LOL

Postal HD huh ?

Why not ?

On October 21 2014 13:50 Minsk wrote: There's just no benefit to society vs a potential harm. No reason to allow people to use it. It's not like they invented entertainement, they didn't do anything new, except make it potentially filled with harmful ideas for society.

Here you are saying this, yet the mass media blasts literally tons of news about murders, deaths, suicides and all kind of negative bullshit on a daily basis. If society has to start changing, then games are the last place to start. I do agree on some level with you, but still...

Minsk you think things should not exist just because they don't benefit society or might harm it (debatable that any game no matter the content can even do that)? How do you feel about alcohol, porn, gambling, poker. Freedom is more important than society itself. People should be able to do whatever they like as long as it does not negatively affect others or the environment.

On October 21 2014 13:50 Minsk wrote: There's just no benefit to society vs a potential harm. No reason to allow people to use it. It's not like they invented entertainement, they didn't do anything new, except make it potentially filled with harmful ideas for society.

Fear mongering nonsense. No benefit? There's a market for gaming and if this is to someones tastes then they'll enjoy it and hopefully have some fun for 30mins. That's the primary intended benefit right there: fun/enjoyment. If anything, people are being given an opportunity to evaluate how they feel about this ridiculous flawed character killing innocent people for no reason. It could prevent exactly the kind of potentially harmful "ideas" depicted in the game from being acted upon. I think people in this thread are terrified someone is going to play this game and just decide "fuck it, this is it" and pick up their dads rifle and go nuts. Or that the game somehow corrupts society. Complete fear driven BS.

On October 22 2014 14:06 Minsk wrote: This Hatred game is simply not valuable to society.

did you play it?

On October 22 2014 14:18 Minsk wrote: in fact all eyes are different.

indeed, therefore there is no thing you so called "society"

On October 21 2014 13:50 Minsk wrote: There's just no benefit to society vs a potential harm. No reason to allow people to use it. It's not like they invented entertainement, they didn't do anything new, except make it potentially filled with harmful ideas for society.

There is no benefit to society by allowing cigarettes or alcohol either so ban too ?


Retarded logic, things do not have to be for the improvement of society for them to be allowed, freedom is far more important than paranoid bullshit restrictions



I like the idea of the game seems fun but the graphics sucks and its probably a shitty game

On October 22 2014 14:27 Minsk wrote:

define 'society' for me then

Play it if you want, don't if you don't. Banning it is ridiculous.


Though I think todays events in Canada are going to give a lot of fuel to the fire in regards to the hatred on this game.

On October 22 2014 14:06 Minsk wrote: I think that soceity will, should, and does ban things that don't benefit it. Gambling and Porn are both entertainment and are valuable. Alcohol is very valuable. Poker isn't illegal because its not valuable to society. Poker is illegal because there is a struggle over profits, once they figure it out poker will be back. This Hatred game is simply not valuable to society.

Yeah, society does but that doesn't mean they are right to do so. I think societies perceptions on a ton of things are absolutely mislead or wrong. In a lot of cases things are banned out of irrational fear or fear is instilled into the population via media and an intentional lack of information. That can then either put overwhelming pressure on the government to act or it might be the governments own agenda to ban whatever it is, e.g: guns, knives, gambling, porn, alcohol, high power cars, etc. An actual objective evaluation never happens or isn't heard because people are easily manipulated into following other's ideals and interests through fear or ignorance and trusting media.

On October 22 2014 14:18 Minsk wrote: The trouble with you guys overall is thta you're looking at it from relatively intelligent eyes saying "this isn't dangerous", but in fact all eyes are different.

Yeah, don't make decisions based on fear otherwise you are another cattle in societies heard. Here's the problem with the fearful society you keep talking about:

1. Something bad happens to someone using something safe but offensive or perceived dangerous to some people
2. Those people then try to use whatever happened against the thing they find offensive to get it banned
3. If you don't stand up and protect your freedom to use it, eat it, view it or w/e then it may get banned
4. Laws can be passed and easily if a lot of people are fearful, close minded or don't use it and it's viewed as being simply not worth their trouble.
5. Over time you slowly lose your freedom to enjoy or do anything perceived dangerous, risky, etc.

Yes, guns are dangerous. Cars are dangerous. Alcohol is dangerous. People are dangerous. Lots of things are dangerous but they can still be enjoyed and used safely through training and knowledge. Video games aren't dangerous but even if they were, the tiny micro % that they might be dangerous to doesn't mean they can't be enjoyed by everyone else.

On October 22 2014 16:44 Stim_Abuser wrote: Though I think todays events in Canada are going to give a lot of fuel to the fire in regards to the hatred on this game.

indeed, if they start banning games everytime some muslim piece of shit starts killing ppl, we will soon be stuck grinding farming simulator 2014

On October 18 2014 06:36 whamm! wrote: Game's title should be "Islam" lol

qft

The game just looks shitty and like it has a shit plot. It looks like they are going for pure shock value and are going to try and pretend like they are making some sort of grand statement against censorship when really its just a lack of creativity and a game based on the drek of our society.

I find the idea of the game putrid but am not stupid enough to think it should be censored. Freedom comes with costs, and sometimes those costs are people thinking they are 'breaking the mold' when they are really just putting out tacky non-sense with no upside and only downside.