today's session - Page 2

On August 10 2012 18:07 HiyAfOu wrote: On August 10 2012 17:39 fishyy88 wrote: rofl, some players actually don't tilt and don't need pussy like stop loss + his hands and ev graph shows a different story

There's maybe a handful of HSNL players that don't tilt at all and not get affected whatsoever by a 17BI swing in one session. No matter how good u are, there's not ONE person playing as good when loosing as he is when winning. I presume you prolly are one of the people that could use the "pussy like stop loss". btw Phil Ivey frequently used stop loss at nosebleeds @ftp and is up like 8figs. GL

dude, you are missing the point. i'm probably not playing my 100pct game. but i have a huge whale at the table and in this situation i'm massively EV, even if i'm not playing my A game. Phil wouldn't use the stop loss vs Guy L. some people use stop losses other don't. as i said i usualy just try to grind till i feel tired or tilted. it happens and then i usualy stop. this has been my worst day running below ev wise, but i have been down 15buy ins before and been able to get back to even. and it's not that i'm careless with the money and stuff, cause poker pays for all my expenses (wife+kids).

Wow. Had no clue there was fish at 100NL that bought in 5+ times lol. Always thought PS was a reg fest.

Seeing these kind of blogposts helps me with my downswings, I don't feel as bad about my -10bi s now

Also I'm with you on stoploss thing. It's very very different between every person and even if you don't play your A game, playing your B with huge fish is fine, it's all about the EV. (say you go down from 20/bb100 to 15bb/100 or whatever, how can it be a bad idea to continue?)

Good luck

as long as you can afford to do so, you should never quit these games, they look ridiculous

sucks. Someone should really stake you to play jinshan again at least, since jinshan plays almost every day.

On August 10 2012 19:00 the cleaner wrote: dude, you are missing the point. i'm probably not playing my 100pct game. but i have a huge whale at the table and in this situation i'm massively EV, even if i'm not playing my A game. Phil wouldn't use the stop loss vs Guy L. some people use stop losses other don't. as i said i usualy just try to grind till i feel tired or tilted. it happens and then i usualy stop. this has been my worst day running below ev wise, but i have been down 15buy ins before and been able to get back to even. and it's not that i'm careless with the money and stuff, cause poker pays for all my expenses (wife+kids).

I wasn't answering you with the last post. I now understand why you haven't quit. Cannot quite agree with you, but that's just my opinion. I think that continuing playing after being down 10+ BI is (if ever) only EV+ when you are overrolled for the limit (and from what you have written, you were not because you are moving down to nl50 now). Even if there is a huge fish playing at the table, there are other players too and you cannot avoid playing hands with them. Playing your B(C(D)) game at the time can be costly regardless of the table being good. As Tom said: as long as you can afford it you should never quit. This is particulary true, when you play for a living IMO.

thanks guys !

On August 10 2012 19:41 TalentedTom wrote: as long as you can afford to do so, you should never quit these games, they look ridiculous

this and especially that Jinshan dude that puts his money always behind it seems... At some point you shall prevail and fest on him

welcome to deeppoker swings

can be brutal

On August 10 2012 18:47 fishyy88 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 10 2012 18:07 HiyAfOu wrote: On August 10 2012 17:39 fishyy88 wrote: rofl, some players actually don't tilt and don't need pussy like stop loss + his hands and ev graph shows a different story There's maybe a handful of HSNL players that don't tilt at all and not get affected whatsoever by a 17BI swing in one session. No matter how good u are, there's not ONE person playing as good when loosing as he is when winning. I presume you prolly are one of the people that could use the "pussy like stop loss". btw Phil Ivey frequently used stop loss at nosebleeds @ftp and is up like 8figs. GL

You are seriously retarded. Not only does his graph show a completely different story than the desperate argument you are trying to make, but it is quite clear the game was built around one player. I wouldn't leave either if someone as bad as Jin was still reloading. You know nothing Jon Snow.

Doesn't the variance go through the roof with bigger stacks? Like, this might not have been a normal session but it's nowhere near as obscene as losing 25bi playing 100bb, if it's 300bb+ all the time this feels like a slightly below average losing session. Which would mean you're playing in a very good game, but heavily underrolled. Also, labeling it as "25bi ev downswing" seems like a rationalization to playing underrolled and dropping few buyins, which turn out to be a huge chunk of your roll. Can't say I blame you though, one sick fish you had there.