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pokraight   Korea (North). Apr 08 2012 01:52. Posts 136 | | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 08 2012 02:17. Posts 8649 | | |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 08 2012 02:47. Posts 7978 | | |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | Last edit: 08/04/2012 02:48 |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 08 2012 03:28. Posts 8649 | | |
i ddnt reply to that thread |
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Carthac   United States. Apr 08 2012 03:32. Posts 1343 | | |
Here is your 4th post. I have grown even more disdain for you |
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K40Cheddar   United States. Apr 08 2012 06:25. Posts 2202 | | |
So you flop the nuts against overpairs in heads up. Why is this special? |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 08 2012 06:29. Posts 8649 | | |
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djforever   Canada. Apr 08 2012 06:31. Posts 1510 | | |
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longple   Sweden. Apr 08 2012 07:22. Posts 4472 | | |
its all relative and villain dependant obviously, but its funny how LP jumps on the hatetrain and just mimic comments when some1 decently respected says something, and then when some1 else says something else ppl jumps on that train instead
i still think its retarded for a microplayer that dont have much of a developed pokerbrain to start calling big 3bets 50bb deep with T9o, even if that feels like 1 million bb's for a SNG dude |
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hording   Sweden. Apr 08 2012 08:47. Posts 474 | | |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 08 2012 11:13. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 08 2012 02:28 bigredhoss wrote:
i ddnt reply to that thread |
and I didnt reply to you  |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 08 2012 11:14. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 08 2012 06:22 longple wrote:
i still think its retarded for a microplayer that dont have much of a developed pokerbrain to start calling big 3bets 50bb deep with T9o |
you are only allowed to say that when you see him making postflop mistakes after the pf call, and he didnt in that hand |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 08 2012 11:21. Posts 8649 | | |
| On April 08 2012 10:13 player999 wrote:
and I didnt reply to you 
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haha word i was a little drunk last night =o |
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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 08 2012 11:22. Posts 7182 | | |
@ Player999
care to explain ?
Its 50bb deep, relativly early in the game villian is an unknown and 3 bets pf
So unless we have history we assume his range is pretty strong and we dont have too much fold equity on many flops
furthermore even if we hit villian has in many cases a range that has a ton of outs vs our "nutz"
Why is calling with T9 good then ?
Isnt it much better to fold or in case we know he opens wide small 4 bet as a bluff and have semi decent equity when getting called ?
I am just a newb but id be glad if u explain
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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) | |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 08 2012 11:55. Posts 7978 | | |
idk why you would assume its "pretty strong", and even if it is, random fish consider A2o or 55 to be "pretty strong hands to 3bet" and they will have the hardest time playing those oop
the worst your opponent is (and better you are) postflop, the wider you can call, so I call muuuch much worse than T9o there, and I consider T9o to be the ultimate unfoldable nuts in that spot, it plays well against his range and isnt dominated at all because fish dont 3bet JTs/Q9s/KTo etc |
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longple   Sweden. Apr 08 2012 12:12. Posts 4472 | | |
why would he be a fish?
we are discussing a fairly unexperienced microstakes reg (OP) trying out sngs without what i would assume to much history playing it/any poker at all based on his posts + that he thought villain played his hand terribly "4 betting K4s vs him"
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a random villain at first stages of a SNG 50bb deep
niggah pliz dont scew it, i would probably not fold T9o either in a 30$ sng vs a random microguy that i assume is 10x worse of a player then myself, but that is not the case in this situation |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 08 2012 12:24. Posts 7978 | | |
its a $30 sng, the best regs are borderline fishes
also lack of experience is a reason to call even more, to get yourself in tough spots, and learn
and even against regs T9o is a very good hand to call, the better regs tend to polarize their 3bets as in J2s/T5s/etc-AJ+/99+, also we have position... if you cant call T9 at pretty much the deepest you'll get (start at 75bb), you are saying you cant call 3bets ever
only time I'm not calling is against someone I know is very good and 3bets the non-polarized range that dominates us, and can also play well postflop
some good regs call T9o to a 3bet on HYPER TURBOS, at 25bb deep (I dont like that, but ppl do it and seem to work for them) |
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c4rnage   . Apr 08 2012 13:32. Posts 409 | | |
| On April 08 2012 11:12 longple wrote:
why would he be a fish?
we are discussing a fairly unexperienced microstakes reg (OP) |
have you searched for him on PTR ? |
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longple   Sweden. Apr 08 2012 14:07. Posts 4472 | | |
| On April 08 2012 12:32 c4rnage wrote:
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On April 08 2012 11:12 longple wrote:
why would he be a fish?
we are discussing a fairly unexperienced microstakes reg (OP) |
have you searched for him on PTR ?
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how is that relevant in any way cpt hignsight?
and also OP = original poster if u didnt know that
and wether or not its a well played hand or not its not the poooooint jeez it plays itslef pretty much on every street after he decided to call. its the way he approached the spot when u in reality should be more selfcritic and open for learning
everything is relative and im no sng shortstackplayer so i cant say anything about how value of hands goes up and down depending on levelncreasement or if its a turbo or not or what ever im just saying to prove my point of his attitude by pointing out 3betting K4s is imo more standard then calling with T9o when faceing an unknown player at these stacks
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c4rnage   . Apr 08 2012 14:44. Posts 409 | | |
| On April 08 2012 13:07 longple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:32 c4rnage wrote:
| On April 08 2012 11:12 longple wrote:
why would he be a fish?
we are discussing a fairly unexperienced microstakes reg (OP) |
have you searched for him on PTR ?
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how is that relevant in any way cpt hignsight?
and also OP = original poster if u didnt know that
and wether or not its a well played hand or not its not the poooooint jeez it plays itslef pretty much on every street after he decided to call. its the way he approached the spot when u in reality should be more selfcritic and open for learning
everything is relative and im no sng shortstackplayer so i cant say anything about how value of hands goes up and down depending on levelncreasement or if its a turbo or not or what ever im just saying to prove my point of his attitude 3betting K4s is imo more standard then calling with T9o when faceing an unknown player this shallow as the cashgameplayer that i am
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dind't follow all the post you where replying, you asked why he would be a fish ( i was thinking on pokraight ) ... well he looks like a fish...and you said reg i wouldn't consider him that.
i find it "relevant" because this poster has made 3-4 post in couple of days posting hands like this, saying things like that its a joke or the moves that other players do, when he probably is doing same things and thats why he is losing in other games.
didn't get the OP thing... i know what it is, but why your comment?
and if he wants to learn thats fine, but for the moment for me (and i think for others) he just look like a troll that its getting lot of attetion for couple of "lol" hands/post, when people that at least deserves a couple more reponses are not getting them in the hands box for example. |
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player999   Brasil. Apr 08 2012 16:59. Posts 7978 | | |
| On April 08 2012 13:07 longple wrote:
and wether or not its a well played hand or not its not the poooooint jeez it plays itslef pretty much on every street after he decided to call
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but when I said "it was well played" I meant including pf
and sure, K4s is not bad (even tho I dont think thats a good board to barrel it off) |
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PplusAD   Germany. Apr 10 2012 06:36. Posts 7182 | | |
Owning pretty hard dude
pokraight
Profit -($209.52) / ($1.29) ITM 75 / 46.30% Average BuyIn $12.55 |
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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) | Last edit: 10/04/2012 06:36 |
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