Broll management discipline. - Page 4

On January 23 2012 13:57 Hasty Pond wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2012 12:45 strydah wrote:   On January 23 2012 12:06 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:   On January 20 2012 16:13 nolan wrote: lol youve been stealing all the videos? :/ ? obv. why pay? lol. kinda silly to expect people to help out a guy with this attitude. lol.

What attitude? The only person I have an attitude with is Zep in the thread cause he be trollzin like boxxy...

I'm approaching every response from serious posters with an open mind.

The comment about me torrenting videos, i felt like that was a weird question. Why incur further expenses when the internet is full of free?

On January 23 2012 14:14 strydah wrote: Show nested quote + On January 23 2012 13:57 Hasty Pond wrote:   On January 23 2012 12:45 strydah wrote:   On January 23 2012 12:06 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:   On January 20 2012 16:13 nolan wrote: lol youve been stealing all the videos? :/ ? obv. why pay? lol. kinda silly to expect people to help out a guy with this attitude. lol. What attitude? The only person I have an attitude with is Zep in the thread cause he be trollzin like boxxy... I'm approaching every response from serious posters with an open mind. The comment about me torrenting videos, i felt like that was a weird question. Why incur further expenses when the internet is full of free?

Your mindset is childish and naive...

You won't succeed until you remedy that.

i'm assuming a lot of people in this thread download tv-series and movies and shit, so i don't really see why you would have a problem with doing the same with poker videos. or is this for some reason not the same thing?

On January 24 2012 07:11 idonklife wrote: i'm assuming a lot of people in this thread download tv-series and movies and shit, so i don't really see why you would have a problem with doing the same with poker videos. or is this for some reason not the same thing?

exactly

On January 24 2012 07:11 idonklife wrote: i'm assuming a lot of people in this thread download tv-series and movies and shit, so i don't really see why you would have a problem with doing the same with poker videos. or is this for some reason not the same thing?

personally, i don't download music/movies illegally, partially due to having netflix and partially to it making me feel uncomfortable. i know i am in the minority a fair bit there.

to be more on topic, it's not necessarily about the parallel with entertainment. there's a slight difference imo between entertainment media and instructional media. furthermore, the poker community is relatively small. i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them.

as a final afterthought, in my time i have found that people who cut corners don't make it far in their pursuits. you'll see a stark difference in the mentality and world view of people who are very successful in certain fields than those who struggle.

i'm not trying to flame strydah, but it's abundantly clear he's not nearly as good at poker as he thinks he is and his self assessment and self awareness seems to be particularly poor. i think based on this thread it's pretty obvious he won't find success in poker any time soon. it's harsh to say and it could be wrong but i know a few people who grinded up from micros and they all had traits that strydah seems not to have based on how he presented himself here. meh.

rofl@ bashing the guy because he download the video when close to everyone download music/movies

i dont download music AT ALL i have tons of cd at my place..i buy movie/watch them on tv or rent them... i dont download
but being surprised at someone downloading poker video and thinking that its not normal to do so : rofl


''i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them. '''

really? comon man...

On January 24 2012 18:42 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: rofl@ bashing the guy because he download the video when close to everyone download music/movies i dont download music AT ALL i have tons of cd at my place..i buy movie/watch them on tv or rent them... i dont download but being surprised at someone downloading poker video and thinking that its not normal to do so : rofl ''i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them. ''' really? comon man...

Theres a big difference in harming the music industry which is shit and destroys music so i gladly pirate and dont give a penny to those assholes and pirating to tiny bussineses, do you think its the same to pirate music than pirating HEM? obviously they are not the same thing.

In his defense card runners have had several questionable things happening with their pros so i wouldnt feel that bad.

Can you even find new poker videos on torrent sites? last time I checked was like 2 - 3 years ago and all i found was a bunch of outdated cardrunners videos from 2006. If you can find updated videos I don't have a problem with you downloading them, but I think it would be hard to find newer relevant vids

On January 18 2012 09:43 strydah wrote: I have a simple flaw: Bankroll management. My skill level is far above my stakes and because of such I always find myself jumping up. I know what good broll management is, but in the words of Arold, "I LACK DISCIPLINE!" What are some tips you guys use to stay disciplined in your broll management efforts? (I'm looking for things you guys do to deter you from jumping up in stakes, not the literal numbers behind your management... there are countless articles on those). Thanks in advance. Edit: Upon further review, notables think I need to break my game down and rebuild it. I'm very open to advice and any help.. or places I can find help. Thanks.

I ran into that problem when I switched from FR/6max LHE with some dabbling in PLO/HORSE/SNGs to HUNL. The only way to find/analyze/fix you leaks and improve your game is to play a ton of hands at 1 stake. Otherwise all your problems are gonna get magnified and ure gonna run into someone who plays for a living and rapes ure bankroll eventually.

So ya besides the busto factor: best way to improve ure game is to focus on 1 game and 1 stake at a time.

On January 24 2012 19:14 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 18:42 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: rofl@ bashing the guy because he download the video when close to everyone download music/movies i dont download music AT ALL i have tons of cd at my place..i buy movie/watch them on tv or rent them... i dont download but being surprised at someone downloading poker video and thinking that its not normal to do so : rofl ''i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them. ''' really? comon man... Theres a big difference in harming the music industry which is shit and destroys music so i gladly pirate and dont give a penny to those assholes and pirating to tiny bussineses, do you think its the same to pirate music than pirating HEM? obviously they are not the same thing. In his defense card runners have had several questionable things happening with their pros so i wouldnt feel that bad.

Not to mention, there are plenty of ways to find legal music for free via youtube, spotify, etc. Vs Training videos which are meant to only be found on one site that you're supposed to pay for.
But like I said before, I really don't have a problem with illegally downloading copyrighted material. If you can find videos that are relevant to today's games, more power to you.

On January 24 2012 21:19 Zep wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 19:14 Baalim wrote:   On January 24 2012 18:42 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: rofl@ bashing the guy because he download the video when close to everyone download music/movies i dont download music AT ALL i have tons of cd at my place..i buy movie/watch them on tv or rent them... i dont download but being surprised at someone downloading poker video and thinking that its not normal to do so : rofl ''i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them. ''' really? comon man... Theres a big difference in harming the music industry which is shit and destroys music so i gladly pirate and dont give a penny to those assholes and pirating to tiny bussineses, do you think its the same to pirate music than pirating HEM? obviously they are not the same thing. In his defense card runners have had several questionable things happening with their pros so i wouldnt feel that bad. Not to mention, there are plenty of ways to find legal music for free via youtube, spotify, etc. Vs Training videos which are meant to only be found on one site that you're supposed to pay for. But like I said before, I really don't have a problem with illegally downloading copyrighted material. If you can find videos that are relevant to today's games, more power to you.

its immoral if you actually hurt a small company imo, for example PokerTracker was pretty much a lone guy living exclusively for it, so i always discourage piracy of those things, if somebody cant afford it then maybe pirate it and pay for it when you have a better BR (as i did many years ago)

It was a one guy job and it was not that big of a production if you compare it with a movie production for example which can't be done by few people. Obviously, when you assimilate the product to a person you feel more concerned than when it is to a company.
Why would there be such a big difference in moral between a big company and a little one ?

Megaupload, a little company exploited his customers and I find it good that it shut down. The music industry is also made up of some little independent labels which are also hurt by this "piracy". This is not about being little or good, but it is about respect of customer, moral, quality of service...
And I'm all for your idea of a steam like application, you would be able to dl movie from and also platforms where you can "test" music before buying it.

On January 24 2012 23:07 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 21:19 Zep wrote:   On January 24 2012 19:14 Baalim wrote:   On January 24 2012 18:42 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: rofl@ bashing the guy because he download the video when close to everyone download music/movies i dont download music AT ALL i have tons of cd at my place..i buy movie/watch them on tv or rent them... i dont download but being surprised at someone downloading poker video and thinking that its not normal to do so : rofl ''i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them. ''' really? comon man... Theres a big difference in harming the music industry which is shit and destroys music so i gladly pirate and dont give a penny to those assholes and pirating to tiny bussineses, do you think its the same to pirate music than pirating HEM? obviously they are not the same thing. In his defense card runners have had several questionable things happening with their pros so i wouldnt feel that bad. Not to mention, there are plenty of ways to find legal music for free via youtube, spotify, etc. Vs Training videos which are meant to only be found on one site that you're supposed to pay for. But like I said before, I really don't have a problem with illegally downloading copyrighted material. If you can find videos that are relevant to today's games, more power to you. its immoral if you actually hurt a small company imo, for example PokerTracker was pretty much a lone guy living exclusively for it, so i always discourage piracy of those things, if somebody cant afford it then maybe pirate it and pay for it when you have a better BR (as i did many years ago)

Baal is always bang on in these kind of spots. To conflate pirating music with videos made by a small company just because the crime is technically the same is a simplistic binary viewpoint that avoids responsibility for making one's own moral judgement and drawing one's own line in the sand.

you are retarded baal
but thats nothing new

i think its more the use of the word '' stealing '' that made me rofl

I'm sure 95% of people with a 3 digit IQ would agree with Baal.
Maybe you're the 5% maybe not.

On January 25 2012 06:08 Oly wrote: Show nested quote + On January 24 2012 23:07 Baalim wrote:   On January 24 2012 21:19 Zep wrote:   On January 24 2012 19:14 Baalim wrote:   On January 24 2012 18:42 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: rofl@ bashing the guy because he download the video when close to everyone download music/movies i dont download music AT ALL i have tons of cd at my place..i buy movie/watch them on tv or rent them... i dont download but being surprised at someone downloading poker video and thinking that its not normal to do so : rofl ''i think most people pay for the videos out of respect for those who take the time to make them. ''' really? comon man... Theres a big difference in harming the music industry which is shit and destroys music so i gladly pirate and dont give a penny to those assholes and pirating to tiny bussineses, do you think its the same to pirate music than pirating HEM? obviously they are not the same thing. In his defense card runners have had several questionable things happening with their pros so i wouldnt feel that bad. Not to mention, there are plenty of ways to find legal music for free via youtube, spotify, etc. Vs Training videos which are meant to only be found on one site that you're supposed to pay for. But like I said before, I really don't have a problem with illegally downloading copyrighted material. If you can find videos that are relevant to today's games, more power to you. its immoral if you actually hurt a small company imo, for example PokerTracker was pretty much a lone guy living exclusively for it, so i always discourage piracy of those things, if somebody cant afford it then maybe pirate it and pay for it when you have a better BR (as i did many years ago) Baal is always bang on in these kind of spots. To conflate pirating music with videos made by a small company just because the crime is technically the same is a simplistic binary viewpoint that avoids responsibility for making one's own moral judgement and drawing one's own line in the sand.

And saying big companies are evil while little ones are not is as binary, and that's what he does the very next post.

The main argument for piracy is that copying something isnt stealing, not that it is stealing but because they are so rich its fine... you can say stealing from the filthy rich is much better than stealing from the poor, but its still stealing.

On January 25 2012 02:05 kingpowa wrote: It was a one guy job and it was not that big of a production if you compare it with a movie production for example which can't be done by few people. Obviously, when you assimilate the product to a person you feel more concerned than when it is to a company. Why would there be such a big difference in moral between a big company and a little one ? Megaupload, a little company exploited his customers and I find it good that it shut down. The music industry is also made up of some little independent labels which are also hurt by this "piracy". This is not about being little or good, but it is about respect of customer, moral, quality of service... And I'm all for your idea of a steam like application, you would be able to dl movie from and also platforms where you can "test" music before buying it.

how is it different todo it against a random guy than to a group of billionares and millionares?

The music industry causes great harm to the art of music, its monopolic abusive garbage.

And even ignoring the obvious justice of fucking with a corrupt industry, if you dont see a moral difference between stealing bread from a starving person than from a morbidly rich one then you are retarded

On January 25 2012 14:56 EvilSky wrote: The main argument for piracy is that copying something isnt stealing, not that it is stealing but because they are so rich its fine... you can say stealing from the filthy rich is much better than stealing from the poor, but its still stealing.

piracy isnt theft,... its piracy which would normally still be immoral, i however dont have any grude in retaliating to immoral people/industries, for example if i somehow had access to the bank account to a corrupt politician, i would steal every penny in it and wouldnt feel like ive done any wrong.