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Handnr: 991083
Submitted by : Rapoza

***** Hand History for Game 88904372469 ***** Poker Stars
$200.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 07, 08:38:23 ET 2012
Table Electra III Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 2: Invencible-T $248.62 USD
Seat 3: zcedrick $252.20 USD
Seat 4: Mkloster $43.98 USD
Seat 5: mysterio6044 $214.08 USD
Seat 6: mermer54 $203.50 USD
Invencible-T posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
zcedrick posts big blind [$2.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Invencible-T [7h6h ]
Mkloster folds
mysterio6044 folds
mermer54 raises [$4.00 USD]
Invencible-T calls [$3.00 USD]
zcedrick raises [$14.00 USD]
mermer54 folds
Invencible-T calls [$12.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $34.00)

   4h8s2c
Invencible-T checks
zcedrick bets [$28.00 USD]
Invencible-T calls [$28.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $90.00)

   4h8s2c8c
Invencible-T checks
zcedrick bets [$58.00 USD]
Invencible-T raises [$204.62 USD]
zcedrick calls [$146.62 USD]

River (Pot : $499.24)

   4h8s2c8c5h
Invencible-T shows 7h6h
zcedrick shows KcKd
Invencible-T wins $498.44 USD from main pot

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blueyes   . Nov 07 2012 20:56. Posts 214

This is sooooooooo bad

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 07 2012 21:21. Posts 8646


  On November 07 2012 19:56 blueyes wrote:
This is sooooooooo bad

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Mardagg   Germany. Nov 07 2012 21:30. Posts 843

i like it.
I think there is a nice amount of fold equity here vs many hands that are ahead of you on the turn.

 Last edit: 07/11/2012 21:31

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Nov 07 2012 21:35. Posts 5291

na this is lighting $$ on fire. fold turn

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HotChip   Iceland. Nov 07 2012 21:43. Posts 146

Arent you just repping 44, 22 and 88 (7 combos)? But all of those hands would slowplay that board alot. This looks really drawy imo.

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Mardagg   Germany. Nov 07 2012 21:48. Posts 843


  On November 07 2012 20:35 Stroggoz wrote:
na this is lighting $$ on fire. fold turn



i really think its not that easy.
villian is in Big Blind vs Button raise+caller and probably squeezing with a lot of hands here.Hero can see a cheap flop slightly deep with a hand that plays well post even oop.Flop is dry and a clear call for hero with the gut shot+ runner draws.
Turn villain will 2nd barrel with a lot of air here imo.I mean its really unlikely that villain actually has an overpair here ...and some lower ppairs will sure fold to the push.
Giving up on that turn would just be weak.
A semibluff,thats real poker imo.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 07 2012 22:05. Posts 8646


  On November 07 2012 20:48 Mardagg wrote:
Turn villain will 2nd barrel with a lot of air here imo.



how do you formulate the opinion that villain will barrel a lot of air on this "awesome" barrel card? -.-

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SleepyHead   . Nov 07 2012 22:36. Posts 878

Mardagg is spot on, although I think calling and popping him on the river is slightly better.

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Mardagg   Germany. Nov 07 2012 22:42. Posts 843


  On November 07 2012 21:05 bigredhoss wrote:
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how do you formulate the opinion that villain will barrel a lot of air on this "awesome" barrel card? -.-


Barring stats or history, i simply see him being in a huge squeeze spot.
Thats a pretty big hand range.After betting flop with that turn i just dont see him giving up with his Ax,Kx hands and generally see him bet folding many other hands as well.
@ hot chip
Hero can perfectly rep 8x as well, .And since there are not many draws out there,i think heroes play looks ok strong.

Of course some history or stats would help on to decide how to play turn.


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 07 2012 23:06. Posts 8646

i don't get it, are you always floating K high oop here on flop or what? what does he expect us to fold on the turn?

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Rapoza   Brasil. Nov 07 2012 23:07. Posts 1612

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Pouncer Style 4 the winLast edit: 07/11/2012 23:15

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 07 2012 23:21. Posts 8646

fair enough, but that's kind of like someone posting a hand getting aipf for 200bb's w/99 and everyone telling him it's bad, then coming later and saying "oh btw villain 3bets 60% and shoves over 4bets 40%"


  On November 07 2012 22:07 Rapoza wrote:
Looking again, its probably a bad play, but only because bet sizes tells he is setting up for pot shove river and ppl most likely do this for value.



this is such a weird comment, isn't it common knowledge that regs generally use the same size for bluffs/value hands on dry boards? i mean obviously he's sizing it in a way that sets him up for a river shove, because doing anything else would be freaking retarded.

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Mardagg   Germany. Nov 07 2012 23:45. Posts 843

Lol,most regs are squeezing a lot in this spot,so thats massively different to your example with 3bet60%.
Get serious.

bigred,i think you are doing a totally wrong approach to this hand.
Once Hero decides to call oop vs the squeeze, he has the plan to play back at villain postflop.
only question is ,where (flop/turn/river) and how much to risk.
If you call pre and then give up on flop or hit a decent flop and then give up on turn,just FOLD pre.or 4bet pre.


Rapoza   Brasil. Nov 08 2012 00:01. Posts 1612

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Pouncer Style 4 the winLast edit: 08/11/2012 00:05

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 08 2012 00:18. Posts 8646

yea im on lifetilt this week no f idea why, i should prob take a break from forums it's not really like me

but anyway i couldn't really predict you were going to edit that part while i was quoting it T.T

mardagg: my example wasn't meant to be a precise analogy obviously, the principle is the same

/tilt out

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Siro   Australia. Nov 08 2012 00:58. Posts 1540

is this the twilight zone?


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 08 2012 00:59. Posts 8646

LOL

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Corde   United Kingdom. Nov 08 2012 05:24. Posts 1099

lesson how to burn $$$... lol


lebowski   Greece. Nov 08 2012 07:39. Posts 9205

100bbs went in with 9% equity. Also, nobody shoves 8x on the turn and nobody folds an overpair to the shove

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Baalim   Mexico. Nov 09 2012 05:36. Posts 34246

sorry to poop on your discussion party but this is terrible.

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Nov 09 2012 11:08. Posts 8646

edited b4 racist ban =[

Truck-Crash LifeLast edit: 09/11/2012 13:45

 

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