PokerStars Zoom Hand #88151463887: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/10/24 17:43:22 CET [2012/10/24 11:43:22 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Bearhose ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 2: TianYuan ($266.20 in chips)
Seat 3: dudeldei1 ($108.04 in chips)
Seat 4: Sosnoviy ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: sharp ($261.14 in chips)
Seat 6: trappers012 ($100.71 in chips)
TianYuan: posts small blind $0.50
dudeldei1: posts big blind $1
Holecards
Dealt to TianYuan 
Sosnoviy: raises $2 to $3
sharp: raises $7.50 to $10.50
trappers012: folds
Bearhose: folds
TianYuan: calls $10
dudeldei1: folds
Sosnoviy: calls $7.50
Flop (Pot : $32.50)
TianYuan: checks
Sosnoviy: bets $25
sharp: calls $25
TianYuan:
2 part q:
1) Preflop. 3bettor is not super loose or anything, but UTG has a pretty wide range (hes a reg but >20% utg)
2) PFR INSTA called the bet, not sure what to make of that except I doubt he has a strong draw... Should I slowplay?
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id never slowplay here - make ur life simple and just get it in imo 
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Corde United Kingdom. Oct 24 2012 12:04. Posts 1099 | | |
I'd build up the pot right now with hope to get it in. you and sharp are both 250+ bb. |
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TianYuan  Korea (South). Oct 24 2012 12:35. Posts 6817 | | |
Yeah but I have a hard time thinking of a hand that can call a c/r that would snapcall, he'd at least consider a raise! Anyway, Im a wimp so I ofc c/r:ed and ogt it in vs the 100bb stack vs J789 or some such. |
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preety sure wrap never folds, neither does NFD or overpair + FD |
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also the EV of winning the pot without showdown is HUGE, its much more profitable in terms of EV of winning the pot without showodwn vs having to play your equity.
No way in hell you can have a 80bb+ EV vs any range |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 24 2012 13:25. Posts 6817 | | |
Oh of course, but I think he jams those himself before it gets to me. But you have a point in that winning pot right there is probably better than anything I can hope to get in vs unless I'm super coolering him and in that case it goes in anyway. |
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Bullshit Canada. Oct 24 2012 13:25. Posts 738 | | | |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 24 2012 13:28. Posts 308 | | |
Board is extremely connected. I'd never slowplay here - 2/3 of turns change the texture significantly.
MP has some kind of draw
UTG can easily have just AA and he won't fold because he's 100bb deep and pot is big already
Shoving now is much better than calling. |
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TianYuan Korea (South). Oct 24 2012 13:28. Posts 6817 | | |
| | On October 24 2012 12:25 Bullshit wrote:
fold pre bro |
What about if utg was 200+ too? I generally am very very very tight with cold calling 3bets, esp oop, and I've been wondering if I'm being a bit too tight. Having an A myself, coupled with loose UTG range means I don't get 4bet very often --- I think probably less than 10% of the time given propensity for UTG1 to also have an Ace and my position. |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 24 2012 13:34. Posts 308 | | |
| | On October 24 2012 12:25 Bullshit wrote:
fold pre bro |
And what is the thought process that led you to this conclusion?
I'd never fold that unless UTG or MP had very tight ranges. |
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