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Handnr: 986841
Submitted by : TianYuan
PokerStars Zoom Hand #86983564512: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2012/10/01 8:35:43 CET [2012/10/01 2:35:43 ET]
Table Gotha 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: gongg ($304.33 in chips)
Seat 2: DK FULLTILT ($109.77 in chips)
Seat 3: Y2JKID ($98.48 in chips)
Seat 4: TianYuan ($190.98 in chips)
Seat 5: wasylekk ($44.01 in chips)
Seat 6: Evil Looser ($42 in chips)
DK FULLTILT: posts small blind $0.50
Y2JKID: posts big blind $1
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to TianYuan    
TianYuan: raises $2.50 to $3.50
wasylekk: calls $3.50
Evil Looser: folds
gongg: calls $3.50
DK FULLTILT: calls $3
Y2JKID: raises $17.50 to $21
TianYuan: raises $52.50 to $73.50
wasylekk: folds
gongg: folds
DK FULLTILT: folds
Y2JKID: calls $52.50
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $157.50)
  
Y2JKID: bets $24.98 and is all-in
TianYuan: calls $24.98
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $207.46)
River (Pot : $207.46)
Showdown
Y2JKID: shows     (three of a kind, Deuces)
TianYuan: shows (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
Y2JKID collected $204.66 from pot
Summary
Total pot $207.46 | Rake $2.80
Board
Seat 1: gongg (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: DK FULLTILT (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Y2JKID (big blind) showed and won ($204.66) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 4: TianYuan showed and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 5: wasylekk folded before Flop
Seat 6: Evil Looser folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Tilt lol
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DaEm0niCuS United States. Oct 01 2012 06:07. Posts 3292 | | | |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 01 2012 09:00. Posts 308 | | |
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wasylekk: folds
gongg: folds
DK FULLTILT: folds
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Wtf are you kids doing? Overcalling vs UTG with hands that are too weak to stand heat in likely AA vs (AA,KK) situations ??
Also - mark Y2JKID as a retard - 3betting that vs 3 overcallers is a massive spew.
Another also - vs competend player who 3bets here, 4betting that is too loose (you're behind). Obv vs this monkey it is good. |
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TianYuan  Korea (South). Oct 01 2012 09:28. Posts 6817 | | |
Yeah I knew he was a retard before this hand, but still had to do some thinking before I pulled the trigger.
Btw, are you saying that there should be no hands in your calling range that can't happily get it in 3 way? What about the fact that the BB is obviously a bit of a retard, and the first caller is a big fish too, there should be plenty of hands that you'd want to play vs those two but cant get in vs a 4bet jam o.o |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 01 2012 10:11. Posts 308 | | |
No, im not saying that, but they are minority.
So when i see 3 folds like that im really surprised.
Hands that make sense to fold in this situation are mostly suited aces (Axxx + nut suit), some ok-but-not-great high connectors, like KQJ8ss.
So if they all fold it means they overcall way too wide with trashy hands or don't realize that semi-connected hands have reasonable equity vs likely ranges of AA/KK and AA/KK
Any ds hand is 33% vs (AA/KK and AA/KK)
random T865ss is 35%
Also overcall/shove with some hand could possibly make initial 3bettor fold if he has KK (i wouldnt count on that at .5/1 though) |
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lacman730 United States. Oct 01 2012 13:25. Posts 311 | | |
what stakes do you play nlwolf? cuz 100plo players do a lot more atrocious stuff than the things you've pointed out in this hh on a regular basis. i mean when the avg table has 1-2 guys with vpip in the 50-100 range you're bound to see stuff a lot worse than this  |
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nlwolf United Kingdom. Oct 01 2012 16:09. Posts 308 | | |
I mostly play HU 5/10 - 25/50 and recently 6max @ 2/4 - 5/10.
I admit im not a great 6maxer and could be too biased towards (semi)competent HU players @ 10/20 when thinking about what typical opponentt would do.
Still I think my advice is solid... is there anything I posted you disagree with? |
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lacman730 United States. Oct 02 2012 03:35. Posts 311 | | |
no no i agree with everything you said, i just thought it was funny you were analysing the leaks of 100 plo players when so many are just clicking buttons really. i was asking about your stakes because i could tell you were an experienced player based on your posts and probably hadn't played 100 plo in a long time |
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! Such an insulting way to lose the pot 
