PokerStars Hand #79792629895: Holdem No Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2012/05/02 17:51:40 WET [2012/05/02 12:51:40 ET]
Table Pyrrhus VI 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: pongam012 ($64.35 in chips)
Seat 2: roberto22026 ($128.63 in chips)
Seat 3: xicotaSLB ($154.53 in chips)
Seat 4: PartyTimeV ($97.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Maniek1971 ($239.49 in chips)
Seat 6: pivo_84 ($125 in chips)
pivo_84: posts small blind $0.25
pongam012: posts big blind $0.50
pongam012: posts the ante $0.10
roberto22026: posts the ante $0.10
xicotaSLB: posts the ante $0.10
PartyTimeV: posts the ante $0.10
Maniek1971: posts the ante $0.10
pivo_84: posts the ante $0.10
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to xicotaSLB 
roberto22026: raises $1 to $1.50
xicotaSLB: calls $1.50
PartyTimeV: raises $6 to $7.50
Maniek1971: folds
pivo_84: folds
pongam012: folds
roberto22026: calls $6
xicotaSLB: raises $16 to $23.50
PartyTimeV: calls $16
roberto22026: folds
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $55.25)
xicotaSLB: bets $19.50
PartyTimeV: raises $54.10 to $73.60 and is all-in
xicotaSLB: calls $54.10
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $202.45)
River (Pot : $202.45)
Showdown
xicotaSLB: shows (a pair of Aces)
PartyTimeV: shows 
(a pair of Queens)
xicotaSLB collected $200.55 from pot
Summary
Total pot $203.05 | Rake $2.50
Board
Seat 1: pongam012 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: roberto22026 folded before Flop
Seat 3: xicotaSLB showed and won ($200.55) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: PartyTimeV showed and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Maniek1971 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: pivo_84 (small blind) folded before Flop
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xicotaSLB Portugal. May 02 2012 12:56. Posts 1128 | | |
calling aces pre utg+1 ftw! |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. May 02 2012 13:34. Posts 5296 | | |
eh. Vs most players at deep you should prolly 3bet utg with 88+, and KQ+ for value. Because they will always try to set mine you oop and a lot call with suited gappers and suited double gappers and shit. And most of them hardly ever 4bet bluff and if they started 4bet bluffing you could 5bet/ or just call in position with some hands that dominate their 4bet bluffing range.
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| | On May 02 2012 12:34 Stroggoz wrote:
eh. Vs most players at deep you should prolly 3bet utg with 88+, and KQ+ for value. Because they will always try to set mine you oop and a lot call with suited gappers and suited double gappers and shit. And most of them hardly ever 4bet bluff and if they started 4bet bluffing you could 5bet/ or just call in position with some hands that dominate their 4bet bluffing range.
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Stroggoz New Zealand. May 02 2012 13:56. Posts 5296 | | |
| | On May 02 2012 12:40 TalentedTom wrote:
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On May 02 2012 12:34 Stroggoz wrote:
eh. Vs most players at deep you should prolly 3bet utg with 88+, and KQ+ for value. Because they will always try to set mine you oop and a lot call with suited gappers and suited double gappers and shit. And most of them hardly ever 4bet bluff and if they started 4bet bluffing you could 5bet/ or just call in position with some hands that dominate their 4bet bluffing range.
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why? i mean it's not applicable to all nl50 deep regs. But about half of them play 30% fold to 3bet, opening nearly the same from utg as they do from the button
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i think 3-beting 88-99 type hands is not a good general play |
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YoMeR United States. May 02 2012 14:07. Posts 12435 | | |
3 betting a wider value range vs idiots who set mine always OOP is obv a good play but vs most i think it's bad...you're just forcing out worse hands most of the time so you're not getting the value you should from hands like AQ/KQs and raping yourself by forcing them to play a stronger range than what you're 3betting with |
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xicotaSLB Portugal. May 02 2012 14:33. Posts 1128 | | |
i think your thought process is good for button, and against some regs who arent positionally aware and call 3bets only to play fit or fold postflop, but it certainly is not good vs all people. |
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Stroggoz New Zealand. May 02 2012 14:39. Posts 5296 | | |
actually i flat 88-99 on BB/SB vs button opens because people will call with alot more broadway hands when i 3bet there(as well as 3betting oop and not being able to set mine 4bets as they are wider)-and i can actually have something to have when they cbet into 256 flops. But yeah, i kinda messed up my advice. It's only vs those certain loose calling regs i described |
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Canada. May 02 2012 13:40. Posts 20070
