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Handnr: 970342
Submitted by : xicotaSLB

PokerStars Hand #79110711865: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2012/04/19 14:33:14 WET [2012/04/19 9:33:14 ET]
Table Sova V 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: tinafaito ($64.86 in chips)
Seat 2: uPro.WaRRioR ($28.43 in chips)
Seat 3: xicotaSLB ($93.68 in chips)
Seat 4: DrainYou777 ($25 in chips)
Seat 5: Kreatinas ($25.82 in chips)
Seat 6: notfold2time ($48.61 in chips)
xicotaSLB: posts small blind $0.10
DrainYou777: posts big blind $0.25
tinafaito: posts the ante $0.05
uPro.WaRRioR: posts the ante $0.05
xicotaSLB: posts the ante $0.05
DrainYou777: posts the ante $0.05
Kreatinas: posts the ante $0.05
notfold2time: posts the ante $0.05

Holecards
Dealt to xicotaSLB KcJd
Kreatinas: folds
notfold2time: raises $0.60 to $0.85
tinafaito: folds
uPro.WaRRioR: folds
xicotaSLB: raises $2.15 to $3
DrainYou777: folds
notfold2time: calls $2.15

Flop (Pot : $6.25)

   7hJs9s
xicotaSLB: bets $4.25
notfold2time: raises $7.38 to $11.63
xicotaSLB: ???

villain is a reg w high ft3bet%, he is not tricky so i never think he has AA/KK here and prolly even QQ, assuming this KJ > AA

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TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 19 2012 10:48. Posts 20070

this is soo not the hand you wanna be 3-betting OOP 200bb deep....

you do this to yourself

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xicotaSLB   Portugal. Apr 19 2012 10:58. Posts 1128

i 3bet cause he had 6/6 ft3bet and he is very tight so i think calling is bad and im not folding.. where is my thought process flawed?


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 19 2012 11:24. Posts 10896

why is calling bad? lol
funy to see that you think raise is better than call


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 19 2012 11:26. Posts 10896

and '' i 3 bet beacuse he fold to 3 bet 6/6 '' wow man lol
if you want to play with stats that much...
tell me in these 6 times how many time he was oop/in pos
or on button/cutoff or MP vs button


xicotaSLB   Portugal. Apr 19 2012 11:32. Posts 1128

i think calling is bad cause i will be playing oop 200bbs deep and i can easily be dominated by AJ AK KQ and he prolly doesnt raise QJo QTo JTo pre, and i have a K blocker which is nice for 3betting..


xicotaSLB   Portugal. Apr 19 2012 11:32. Posts 1128

instead of folding.


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 19 2012 11:41. Posts 10896

oh yeah 3 betting and not knowing hwat to do on flop with TP is way better


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Apr 19 2012 11:58. Posts 10896

lets say : You rather play a RAISED pot 200bb deep oop with KJo vs someone you dont know if he is gona go crazy and 3 barrel alot or w/e
or
you rather play a 3 betted pot OOP with KJo and unless you flop the nut will be scared vs any action coming from the vilain?


i think its an interesting hand(kinda) , alot of people can learn from it, like you, and learn to stop thinking '' i 3 bet because he fold to e bet 6 times out of 6 ''

we dont have J7s man we have KJ :O


thewh00sel    United States. Apr 19 2012 12:10. Posts 2734

I think bc he folds to 3bets you would want to call not reraise to keep his dominated hands in, bc if he calls your reraise then you are more likely to be dominated. If he called a lot of 3bets THEN I would want to 3b KJ; I think you have it backwards on your reasons, I'd pitch it pre or call sometimes.

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hapahauli   United States. Apr 19 2012 13:08. Posts 24


  On April 19 2012 10:32 xicotaSLB wrote:
i think calling is bad cause i will be playing oop 200bbs deep and i can easily be dominated by AJ AK KQ and he prolly doesnt raise QJo QTo JTo pre, and i have a K blocker which is nice for 3betting instead of folding



If his raising range consists of hands that only dominate you, you have to fold preflop.

If he's raising more than that, calling allows you to manage pot size much more comfortably. Simply call with KJo on the blinds, then check/call one or two streets. If he shuts down, you're ahead and get to go to showdown cheap with a nice hand. If he keeps betting, he's ahead of you so you can simply fold. Even if you end up folding to a turn or river bet, you will lose much less money by calling preflop. Check calling a cbet and a double barrel in a raised pot is MUCH less than losing your 3bet and 17bb cbet.

In regards to 3betting, you have to understand where your value is coming from - are you 3betting for fold equity, or are you 3betting for value? Against a guy who is folding many hands to a 3bet, you are 3betting for fold equity, and are turning KJo into a bluff. You fold out the hands you have equity against, and he continues with hands that dominate you. Against this guy, you should be calling hands like AJ, KQ, etc - especially out of position. Feel free to 3bet with random suited lowcards (like 64s, 96s, etc). You have decent equity against the high-card hands he continues with, and you can cbet/fold flops with no worries.


 

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