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Handnr: 908817
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, June 07, 10:45:24 ET 2011
Table Maritima III Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $10.71 USD - VPIP: 58, PFR: 29, 3B: 10, AF: 2.0, Hands: 31
Seat 2: Player2 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 1, AF: 1.2, Hands: 359
Seat 3: Player3 $19.64 USD - VPIP: 38, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 21
Seat 4: Hero $26.19 USD - VPIP: 24, PFR: 20, 3B: 8, AF: 3.5, Hands: 250189
Seat 5: Player5 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 5.9, Hands: 472
Seat 6: Player6 $84.10 USD - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 7, AF: 3.6, Hands: 404
Player1 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [QcAs ]
Player3 folds
Hero raises [$0.85 USD]
Player5 raises [$2.50 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Hero raises [$5.15 USD]
Player5 raises [$22.50 USD]
Hero folds

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 07 2011 11:38. Posts 15163

I was opening very wide at the table, but played solid folding to raises
Villain has 3/23 3b CO, 7% overall.

I won't call with anything, and definitely not with AQo => It's not good enough to stack off but the absolute top of my folding range that has 2 blockers. If I want to have a 4bet folding range at all this hand should be always in it right?

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93% Sure! Last edit: 07/06/2011 11:43

szogunMMA   Poland. Jun 07 2011 12:15. Posts 444

i wouldn't 4bet bluff this guy with agro image. It's NL25 and ppl don't pay attention enought to make an assumption that he knows you play solid


r0mx0   Slovakia. Jun 07 2011 12:29. Posts 1580

yea i wouldnt 4b as well..but probably can find a call here ...and if u want to 4b , just 4b semistrong at least not 2,0x (not sure if the software didnt mess up the numbers again)

You gotta plow through that shit !  

the cleaner   Germany. Jun 07 2011 12:40. Posts 3014

if he is getting out of line 3betting your EP openings, i don't mind 4betting as a bluff with AQ/KQ and folding to a shove. the majority of the time i just fold to the 3bet.

there are no facts only interpretations 

gororokgororok   Netherlands. Jun 07 2011 12:42. Posts 3940

not sure how big your sample is but last time i played nl25 ppl didnt really 3bet light in these spots. if you ARE SURE he's 3betting light in these spots and dont wanna call i dont mind 4betbluffing as it has cardremoval.


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 07 2011 13:21. Posts 15163


  On June 07 2011 11:40 the cleaner wrote:
if he is getting out of line 3betting your EP openings, i don't mind 4betting as a bluff with AQ/KQ and folding to a shove. the majority of the time i just fold to the 3bet.


Yeah when I go ahead and 3bet just the top of my range-AQ I 4bet fold just 6-7% (with around 18% raising range). So I am in fact folding some 200/244 combos, and just 16/244 combos is a 4bet bluff,
and when I 4bet I stack off 66% of the time and fold 33% of the time.
It has to work 55% of the time and QQ+AK (if he 3bet shoves only those)is only 1.8% of hands, so if he 3bets just 4%+ it should be +ev, and I will still have very solid value weighted ranges.

I am really trying to force myself into this approach towards poker, I found the reason why I stopped learning is that I am almost completely detached from my own hand strength and range and play, I only look at villains and when I e.g. call a 3bet with Q9s against unknown, he stacks me with a totally retarded line I think about him what he did why and how to exploit him and completely ignore my own play and why I was there with a hand like that in the first place.

Isn't it kind of bad to one orbit fold AQ and then when he 3bets again 4bet bluff with much weaker hands? Because that's what I do all the time

93% Sure! Last edit: 07/06/2011 13:43

szogunMMA   Poland. Jun 07 2011 14:20. Posts 444

when u get 3bet couple of times they will anticipate you 4beting light so i would tighten range and 4b/call w something like 99-TT
just dont start adjusting when you get 3bet 2-3 times


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Jun 07 2011 15:21. Posts 15163

I meant more like having AQ as a standard in my 4bet fold range against anyone with 7%+3bet and significant 3bet from specific position too

93% Sure!  

 

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