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Handnr: 821035
Submitted by : terrybunny19240

Full Tilt Poker Game #20341253171: Table Kinko (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:33:03 ET - 2010/04/25
Seat 1: WesaWest ($66.30)
Seat 2: laker007 ($85.35)
Seat 3: Fabio23473 ($36.60)
Seat 4: Night2o11 ($52.70)
Seat 5: Carelo Julius ($50)
Seat 6: sinoz09 ($53.85)
Fabio23473 posts the small blind of $0.25
Night2o11 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #2

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Night2o11QcKh
sinoz09 folds
WesaWest raises to $2
laker007 folds
Fabio23473 folds
Night2o11 calls $1.50

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.25)

   4c4sJc
Night2o11 checks
WesaWest checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $4.25)

   4c4sJc5h
Night2o11 bets $3
WesaWest calls $3

River (Pot : $10.25)

   4c4sJc5hTc
Night2o11 bets $8
WesaWest has 15 seconds left to act
WesaWest calls $8

Showdown
Night2o11 showsQcKh a pair of Fours
WesaWest showsKdJs two pair, Jacks and Fours
WesaWest wins the pot ($24.95) with two pair, Jacks and Fours

Summary
Total pot $26.25 | Rake $1.30
Board:4c4sJc5hTc
Seat 1: WesaWest showedKdJs and won ($24.95) with two pair, Jacks and Fours
Seat 2: laker007 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: Fabio23473 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Night2o11 (big blind) showedQcKh and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 5: Carelo Julius is sitting out
Seat 6: sinoz09 didn't bet (folded)

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terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 25 2010 07:35. Posts 13829

what should I Be doing on the flop/turn/river? should I ever bluff here? should I just be trying to showdown my king high? so x-x-x/folding?

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Oly   United Kingdom. Apr 25 2010 07:40. Posts 3585

This is fine. He has mid pockets and ace high quite enough and he doesn't call them too much on the river on average. Take a note that he pot controls when so strong here and you can read him like a book in future.

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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Apr 25 2010 07:43. Posts 1687


  On April 25 2010 06:40 Oly wrote:
This is fine. He has mid pockets and ace high quite enough and he doesn't call them too much on the river on average. Take a note that he pot controls when so strong here and you can read him like a book in future.



Basically this, the river is actually imo a good card for you to continue on. I think 3betting spots like this semi-regularly can be good too. (and not just because you him dominated here)

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 25/04/2010 07:44

terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 25 2010 07:44. Posts 13829

Ok, I will try


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Apr 25 2010 07:44. Posts 1687


  On April 25 2010 06:44 Night2o1 wrote:
Ok, I will try



Trial and error, you get a feel for it real quickly if you're thinking

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 25 2010 07:49. Posts 13829

IDK, I try but I seem to lose money in this spot everytime, I keep trying because it doesn't make sense logically for him to cal me


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Apr 25 2010 07:51. Posts 1687


  On April 25 2010 06:49 Night2o1 wrote:
IDK, I try but I seem to lose money in this spot everytime, I keep trying because it doesn't make sense logically for him to cal me



Fold preflop is ok too, assuming he's relatively decent. KQ is a great hand vs fishy players, even oop..

But vs a reasonable player whose made it 4xbb I think 3bet=fold>>Call at 25/50c for a number of reasons.. you're getting less than 2-1 and you're 2-1 about to hit a flop, many of which it's hard to get value, often you're just check folding or winning a small pot when youre Q/K top pair ahead or losing a big pot when its behind. etc etc.. Think about it anyway.

If 3 bet = fold though 3 bet is relatively obviously superior as you can expect to get paid more when you do have a hand. It depends on how comfortable you are in 3 bet pots though.

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 25/04/2010 07:55

terrybunny19240   United States. Apr 25 2010 07:59. Posts 13829

thanks, I usually do 3bet or fold here with KQo, and I like your argument, what do u think of KQs though?


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Apr 25 2010 08:03. Posts 1687


  On April 25 2010 06:59 Night2o1 wrote:
thanks, I usually do 3bet or fold here with KQo, and I like your argument, what do u think of KQs though?



love it I'd be seeing a flop with KQs here without a doubt.

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Apr 25 2010 08:37. Posts 8915

we obv dont want to be folding KQ vs this guy since he has KJo in his opening range -.-


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Apr 25 2010 08:44. Posts 1687


  On April 25 2010 07:37 EvilSky wrote:
we obv dont want to be folding KQ vs this guy since he has KJo in his opening range -.-



I'm not sure if you're serious or not.. I'm going to assume not

poker is soooo much easier when you flop setsLast edit: 25/04/2010 08:46

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Apr 25 2010 09:05. Posts 8915

well there is obv more to it than that but why the fuck would you fold kq in the bb vs a co open ? in the sb with an aggro reg behind yea we should 3b/fold but closing the action? really?


Maynard!   United States. Apr 25 2010 09:07. Posts 4453

Check behind on J44 is likely pot control w/ made hand. I'd prob give it up.

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maryn   Poland. Apr 25 2010 09:27. Posts 1208

overbet turn, shove river


the cleaner   Germany. Apr 25 2010 10:02. Posts 3014

I don´t like your line on the turn, since we can´t really represent anything big on that board. On the river i guess the river bet is ok, but i would probably look you up kind of thin there, cause i think your range would include a bunch of bluffs, unless you have like a really tight image.
i like to bet turn and barrel river if i pick up like a straight or flush draw on the turn.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 25/04/2010 10:02

 

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