oh wow

i didnt know that he showed his hand. do we all like this line?

i probably b/c turn though, pretty much only hand there is 99/33/j9 that beats us mabye qq+ but so many draws

this is a realllllly bad line

wow

yeah but this guy is def not shoving with a draw on the turn when i donk imo

I hate it. You absolutely have to call if you donk the turn - he can shove a million draws, and you only called the flop cos you thought he could raise draws to begin with.

what is a better line then? I hate this spot oop with tptk on a drawy board.

my conclusion is he wont shove over with a draw, so if he raises on the turn he has me beat.

k

taking this line out of the playbook then

On October 16 2009 17:54 Oly wrote: I hate it. You absolutely have to call if you donk the turn - he can shove a million draws, and you only called the flop cos you thought he could raise draws to begin with.

no he can raise more than a draw here.

On October 16 2009 17:55 CrownRoyal wrote: Show nested quote + On October 16 2009 17:54 Oly wrote: I hate it. You absolutely have to call if you donk the turn - he can shove a million draws, and you only called the flop cos you thought he could raise draws to begin with. no he can raise more than a draw here.

I don't understand your comment. In general he can raise 2pairs and sets, and he can raise draws. If we think there is a good enough chunk of the latter we call, if not we fold - I'm not sure what you mean.

he can raise weaker j's and pps and shit his flop raise is whack.

after he raises to 6.50 wtf do you guys do then?

dude is playing 48/25 with infinity flop aggression over 50 hands

now you is talkin' reads, yeah

On October 16 2009 18:00 CrownRoyal wrote: after he raises to 6.50 wtf do you guys do then? dude is playing 48/25 with infinity flop aggression over 50 hands

reraise flop and smile hugely. If there is any chance he does this with a jack overvaluing it you life is gravy.

i like check/minraising or check/shoving the turn

I really don't mind it vs the given player, I'd rather reraise flop.

minraise + 1 bb
i.e.
he clicked the slider once then hit BET

for starters, amongst the most retarded of opponents, this is usually this is a preeeeetty strong hand.

idk, i'd fairly often call flop and c/r turn allin if he was betting much bigger and i felt i was ahead but as played im probably folding flop or calling down. Its difficult b/c you're OOP and have less control over the pot though. I dont mind call call non diamond turn/rivers and c/ring good turns like an Ace and probably a J too.

Typically vs these players im trying to get involved as much as possible so i have 'reads' somewhat by the time i get a hand that help me decide what to do here. Also, just watching how he plays at the table helps tons, even if its just reviewing the HH log.

lol cmon this post is so retarted