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Handnr: 634448
Submitted by : Fox

PokerStars Game #25041655635: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/02/17 8:56:50 ET
Table Asterion II 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: redacesfull ($139.55 in chips)
Seat 2: cpkedo ($74.50 in chips)
Seat 3: xTJaxx ($103 in chips)
Seat 4: LarssenAce ($69.70 in chips)
Seat 5: Denfairycat ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($100.05 in chips)
Seat 7: Sandalphon10 ($88.05 in chips)
Seat 8: birkwitz ($19 in chips)
Seat 9: Hanky125 ($82.10 in chips)
LarssenAce: posts small blind $0.50
Denfairycat: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QdQs
Hero: raises $3 to $4
Sandalphon10: folds
birkwitz: folds
Hanky125: folds
redacesfull: folds
cpkedo: folds
xTJaxx: raises $10 to $14
LarssenAce: folds
Denfairycat: folds
Hero: calls $10

Flop (Pot : $29.50)

   6c4h7c
Hero: checks
xTJaxx: bets $22
Hero: calls $22

Turn (Pot : $73.50)

   6c4h7c2s
Hero: checks
xTJaxx: bets $67 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet ($67) returned to xTJaxx
xTJaxx collected $70.50 from pot
xTJaxx: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $73.50 | Rake $3
Board  6c4h7c2s
Seat 1: redacesfull folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: cpkedo folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: xTJaxx (button) collected ($70.50)
Seat 4: LarssenAce (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Denfairycat (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Hero folded on the Turn
Seat 7: Sandalphon10 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: birkwitz folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: Hanky125 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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PplusAD   Germany. Feb 17 2009 09:11. Posts 7180

I somehow dont like this ....
if u think his range is only AA,KK , AK then fold pf imo

i think without a read this 2spade blank is perfect for him to shove JJ , TT or even, 88 if hes agressive

check/ calling somehow makes ure hand weaker than it is !
I dont know of a better 4card board u can get for ure QQ than this( without a set obv)

all depends on which kinda villian he is obviously.

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U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)Last edit: 17/02/2009 09:15

Fox   . Feb 17 2009 09:35. Posts 3110

i really doubt he has 88


handbanana21   United States. Feb 17 2009 09:38. Posts 3037

your a FR reg right fox? Given your image and your opponents 3betting frequencies, you should easily know wether this is a fold pf or a flop jam/check jam turn (or c/c turn given stack sizes)

 Last edit: 17/02/2009 09:38

Fox   . Feb 17 2009 09:41. Posts 3110


  On February 17 2009 08:38 handbanana21 wrote:
your a FR reg right fox? Given your image and your opponents 3betting frequencies, you should easily know wether this is a fold pf or a flop jam/check jam turn (or c/c turn given stack sizes)



i do think once he raises me i'm up against 1010+ 100% of the time and QQ+ like 95% of the time.

reason's for the post are.

I hate to fold QQ like this.
I still have not been able to move up to NL200 for good now so i know i have leaks and i need to know if this is one of them.

so you're saying if i believe his range is pretty dam strong i should be treating QQ like 88+ and i don't need to be set mining oop?


Fox   . Feb 17 2009 09:42. Posts 3110

i mean it's gay cuz i really think i'm up against KK or AA here and given that i could have just folded preflop. But it's like i refuse to go with that read cuz it's QQ but maybe that's the problem.


handbanana21   United States. Feb 17 2009 09:45. Posts 3037

yea of course not. No reason to set mine with QQ here. If your opponent is 3betting your utg open, and he is a standard tag. This is highly indicative of AA+KK and AK at best. JJ and 1010 both flat the button.


Fox   . Feb 17 2009 09:46. Posts 3110


  On February 17 2009 08:45 handbanana21 wrote:
yea of course not. No reason to set mine with QQ here. If your opponent is 3betting your utg open, and he is a standard tag. This is highly indicative of AA+KK and AK at best. JJ and 1010 both flat the button.



yeah i run almost the same stats and i'm flatting that button with QQ/AK as well. hell i might even flat it with KK.


Fox   . Feb 17 2009 09:46. Posts 3110

and i just answered why i'm not able to move up to NL200 for good.


handbanana21   United States. Feb 17 2009 09:53. Posts 3037

dont get into the ideology that you "feel weak" folding QQ/AK in these spots. Maybe a few years ago when the games were incredibly soft. But nowadays these limits are nit infested. QQ/AK dont stack off as well as they used to. So try to play them a bit more cautiously.


lucifer   Sweden. Feb 17 2009 10:10. Posts 5955

holy fucking shit.


thx for reminding me why fullring is fucking retarded

On February 19 2009 22:21 Confedrate wrote: i dont get it 

 

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