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Handnr: 1058146
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Hand #141322293134: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2015/09/25 19:05:54 CET [2015/09/25 13:05:54 ET]
Table Lilio 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 3: .ReloaÐ. ($25 in chips)
Seat 4: sparebank ($25.68 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($48.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Kostiko_O ($25 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.10
Kostiko_O: posts big blind $0.25
AllIllusion7: sits out

Holecards
Dealt to Hero KsAs
.ReloaÐ.: folds
sparebank: raises $0.37 to $0.62
Hero: raises $1.38 to $2
Kostiko_O: raises $2.50 to $4.50
sparebank: folds
Hero: raises $44 to $48.50 and is all-in
Hero said, "fold pls"
Hero said, ":)"
Kostiko_O: folds QdQs
Uncalled bet ($44) returned to Hero
Hero collected $9.62 from pot
Hero: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $9.62 | Rake $0
Seat 3: .ReloaÐ. folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: sparebank (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Hero (small blind) collected ($9.62)
Seat 6: Kostiko_O (big blind) folded before Flop

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 25 2015 18:11. Posts 15163

Never rly worked out this spot...I'm guessing in terms of defending properly/balance
just flatting everything might be good vs that size?

I went by AKs oop, fuck it

cold 4betting is starting to get pretty common at NL25 these days

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93% Sure! Last edit: 25/09/2015 18:20

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Sep 25 2015 18:13. Posts 15163

The hand after btw:
+ Show Spoiler +



Do you like river sizing here?

93% Sure! Last edit: 25/09/2015 18:20

Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 25 2015 20:41. Posts 1631

i like ur river sizing but im 4betting AQ for value most the time here. flat for balance sake sometimes but not often


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Sep 25 2015 20:44. Posts 6374


  On September 25 2015 19:41 Ryan Neilly wrote:
i like ur river sizing but im 4betting AQ for value most the time here. flat for balance sake sometimes but not often



so you 4b/fold AQ? or even call it off? great strat buddy... just gtfo

ban baal 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 25 2015 20:56. Posts 9634

lol at 4betting AQ for value as standard .. that means you d have to 4bet around 9-10%
you could potentially make a case for 4bet/fold or 4bet/call in some spots but they are so rare its not even worth discussing at the stakes we re playing

 Last edit: 25/09/2015 21:04

Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:40. Posts 1631

Seat 4: sparebank ($25.93 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($53.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Kostiko_O ($25.57 in chips)

in a regular 3 handed game i don't mind getting AQ in for a stack as long as im playing wide with the rest of my range in positional battles etc.

flat is fine, but u really think ur getting 3bet by better than AQ the majority of the time here 3 handed? i don't.

AJ is a much better example than AQ for what i was saying though, because i can 4bet fold AJ where as im prolly committing with AQ, so i would need stats or game flow to stand by that statement.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:41. Posts 1631

i like sooted aces to AJ for the example not AQ ur right dogmeat.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:48. Posts 1631

dogmeat i feel like u have no fucking idea

this is a 100% standard allin this is blidn on blidn at nl25,. if the game has any lagness to it at all this is a 100% standard fistpump 4bet call off wtf are u smoking pass that shit.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:48. Posts 1631

oh and i just saw he had 26ss now, didn't see it earlier lol


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:49. Posts 1631

i'd like to see someone with a green star say stacking off with AQ in a normal 3 handed game on pokerstars as a mistake, i truly believe its 110% standard and its a situation you look to get into since you domiinate hands that 5bet jam with little to no equity.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:51. Posts 1631

k im done in this thread - im personally not scared of 4 hands, u can be, ur choice.


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 26 2015 04:52. Posts 1631

ah to clarify tho in 4-6 handed games i like the sooted aces/KQo and hands like AT/AJ to 4bet fold.


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 26 2015 08:24. Posts 9634

the more you re typing the worse its getting
4bet/fold AJs ? sure seems legit best bluff ever ! lets pick one of the best 4 combos for 3bet def hands for 4b bluffs

 Last edit: 26/09/2015 08:24

AndrewSong    United States. Sep 26 2015 09:05. Posts 2355

no1s saying we lose money when we 4b AQo. you just make more by calling


TimDawg    United States. Sep 26 2015 09:37. Posts 10197


  On September 25 2015 19:44 dogmeat wrote:
Show nested quote +



so you 4b/fold AQ? or even call it off? great strat buddy... just gtfo

4betting AQ (with the intention of getting it in pre) vs a guy who just 4b/folded Q's is prob not a good idea...

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinballLast edit: 26/09/2015 09:40

TimDawg    United States. Sep 26 2015 09:39. Posts 10197


  On September 26 2015 03:49 Ryan Neilly wrote:
i'd like to see someone with a green star say stacking off with AQ in a normal 3 handed game on pokerstars as a mistake, i truly believe its 110% standard and its a situation you look to get into since you domiinate hands that 5bet jam with little to no equity.


it can be "standard" and good but it can also be a massive mistake vs certain opponents

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

MARSHALL28   United States. Sep 26 2015 13:12. Posts 1897

sometimes u make more 4betting aq. id never get all in preflop w/ it tho. not in any situation for any reason outside of somebody going literally insane.


traxamillion   United States. Sep 26 2015 20:45. Posts 10468


  On September 26 2015 08:05 AndrewSong wrote:
no1s saying we lose money when we 4b AQo. you just make more by calling



boom


Ryan Neilly   United States. Sep 27 2015 17:49. Posts 1631

first off A: i was really stoned so multiple posts

2nd off lol didnt see it was vs the same guy with the QQ lol



ok all im saying in theory is i will 4bet fold some of the higher tier hands OOP like sooted aces to AJ etc since nobody really gets in worse than AQ obv. since its 3 handed i can't really see myself folding AQ for 1 stack sb vs big blind, i can see it being +ev, not by a ton, but def a +ev move.

If i saw someone fold QQ tho i would never do it and i didn't read the names and see it was the same guy, i still haven,t going by timdawgs post lol

Marshall, in bvb and otb vs sb/bigblidn lag wars would you consider it?


 

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