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Handnr: 1053444
Submitted by : TianYuan

PokerStars Zoom Hand #134937574325: Omaha Pot Limit ($2.50/$5.00) - 2015/05/08 13:22:13 JST [2015/05/08 0:22:13 ET]
Table Humason 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: TianYuan ($554.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Dentist1 ($500 in chips)
Seat 3: maia673 ($500 in chips)
Seat 4: prapavedi ($507.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Flash_ua ($502.50 in chips)
Seat 6: krondix ($1075.63 in chips)
Dentist1: posts small blind $2.50
maia673: posts big blind $5

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to TianYuan Jc6c5hTh
prapavedi: folds
Flash_ua: folds
krondix: raises $12.50 to $17.50
TianYuan: raises $27.50 to $45
Dentist1: raises $112.50 to $157.50
maia673: raises $342.50 to $500 and is all-in
krondix: folds
TianYuan: raises $54.70 to $554.70 and is all-in
Dentist1: calls $342.50 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($54.70) returned to TianYuan

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1,517.50)

   7dAd7h

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1,517.50)

   7dAd7h7s

River (Pot : $1,517.50)

   7dAd7h7s5d

Showdown
Dentist1: shows As8dJd4s (a flush, Ace high)
maia673: shows Js9sAh8h (three of a kind, Sevens)
TianYuan: shows Jc6c5hTh (three of a kind, Sevens)
Dentist1 collected $1514.70 from pot

Summary
Total pot $1517.50 | Rake $2.80
Board  7dAd7h7s5d
Seat 1: TianYuan (button) showed Jc6c5hTh and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 2: Dentist1 (small blind) showed As8dJd4s and won ($1514.70) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: maia673 (big blind) showed Js9sAh8h and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 4: prapavedi folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Flash_ua folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: krondix folded before Flop

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TianYuan    Korea (South). May 08 2015 05:54. Posts 6817

I m confused. And pleasantly surprised lol

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traxamillion   United States. May 08 2015 06:06. Posts 10468

Almost 39% quite good, almost double their individual win percentages since they tie a decent amount


fira   United States. May 08 2015 06:13. Posts 6345

err, this seems too weak to get in pre?


traxamillion   United States. May 08 2015 06:45. Posts 10468

he runs into a lot of situations where he is up against double AA, AA/KK, AKxxx/AKxx a lot of situations where they block each others hands but loco is super live even if technically behind so he ends up with the best equity 3ways


traxamillion   United States. May 08 2015 06:46. Posts 10468

of course sometimes he will be getting it in bad but it is unlikely his equity can ever be that bad with this hand. It would be pretty rare/random to be heavily dominated here


fira   United States. May 08 2015 07:07. Posts 6345

i guess, but can't the same be said about pretty much any double suited hand? this has to be one of the worse double suited hands. well i guess something like AQ72ds could be worse since AA will own us

 Last edit: 08/05/2015 07:09

Trav94   Canada. May 08 2015 07:42. Posts 1785

I always feel like I "get" plo, then I see thats hands like this are standard and then I realize I don't get plo anymore lol


TianYuan    Korea (South). May 08 2015 08:02. Posts 6817

The cold 5bet is by a passive fish, and the cold 4b by a fairly taggy reg, so figured its double AA a lot. Don't think I like the hand he choose to cold 4b.

I'm pretty sure I have enough equity here most of hte time to get in pre, since their ranges are often both AA and broadway heavy.... (AA, KK, strong double suited AKQ type hands).

This isn't a standard hand aside from my preflop get in I think ;d

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traxamillion   United States. May 08 2015 08:09. Posts 10468

very common to get in 8910J double suited here; all day. This hand isnt quite as good, doesnt make as many wraps/straights, but is v close


TianYuan    Korea (South). May 08 2015 09:00. Posts 6817

JT56$ds probably is only very marginally worse, because lower cards do better vs 2 high ranges. Hands like 3456, 4567 double suited are the best here.

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fira   United States. May 12 2015 10:30. Posts 6345

hmm i think i underestimated this hand a bit, non-gapped connectors like 56 and JT are actually a lot better at making straights than, say, 48 or Q8. (obviously)

i was counting pure number of holdem hands that can make straights. in this case there are three: 56, JT, and T6
a hand like 468J has four: 46, 48, 68, and J8. however they are all gapped.

56 vs 46 vs 36 vs 26:

56 makes straights on 234, 347, 478, 789
46 makes straights on 235, 357, 578
36 makes straights on 245, 457
26 makes straights on 345

ungapped connector is 4x, 2x, and 1.33x better at making straights than 1, 2, and 3 gappers respectively

so, JT65 has 4 + 1 + 4 = 9 ways to make straights
whereas 468J has 3 + 1 + 3 + 2 = 9 ways to make straights, though it seemed like it would make more straights with seemingly better connectivity

just some random thoughts i guess

btw "JT56$ds" what does the $ stand for, or is it just a typo?

 Last edit: 12/05/2015 10:35

TianYuan    Korea (South). May 18 2015 08:24. Posts 6817

It's Odds oracle syntax

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