he says he was bluffing. he's a theory oriented player, what could he be bluffing with?

no idea... 77 or 88 possibly? maybe a hand like 86s or 75s. still, seems like a ridiculous spot to bluff given the odds

your flop lead is interesting. i would lead on the same board if there was a flush draw, but without it, i feel like i'd be too value-heavy. can i ask what your leading range is? 2pairs+ for value, but what kind of bluffs or semibluffs?

60bb raiser is playing for fun, I could call a bet and lead safe turn with my exact hand but his c-bet was quite low while having sticky post flop stats.

I don't have a bluff tbh in this exact scenario with good BU calling his 60bb raise. I would assume he would put some bd straight/flush d into my leading range though.

45s 65cc 67s I think 77 and 88 would be just bad bluffs since they would only be trying to bluff trips+ with sick odds against a very polarizing overbet.

ah yeah the other counterfeited 2pair hands make a lot of sense

I was wondering what bluffs u have till I saw your post. That lead just screams value from the fish so villain has to know you are strong to potentially nutted which makes his bluff strange to me. Would he ever bluff with 9x to move you off a straight or better trips.

guy says hes bluffing when he minraises you allin on river and you believe him? how long have you been playing poker again? :[

yea i was in the middle of writing another longer post on my phone when it died saying the more i look at it the more i think he is just lying.

On February 04 2015 09:01 PoorUser wrote: guy says hes bluffing when he minraises you allin on river and you believe him? how long have you been playing poker again? :[

lol this

what if villain has 107dd? If he thinks andrew is tight and inbalanced towards value he should probably just fold to a range of 99,55,66,78, 56 (although 56 is counterfeited on the river so it can no longer vbet and should be discounted). But he knows Andrew is good so maybe he is giving more credit in this spot than he should, or maybe he is multitabling and not paying attention to the way the fish in the hand switches the focus from GTO to exploitative play (thus andrew's flop lead) and includes hands like A9, K9, 67, 45, maybe even random backdoor bluffs, 77, 88, (Although each of these should be discounted because villain will be aware Andrew may not bet the bluffing hands with a 100% frequency while with a hand like top boat he will be) in Andrew's river betting range. If these other hands are added in his bluff isn't so bad so if he sees the hand this way maybe he really did go for it.

C/r ai riv imo...

x/r ai isn't bad but when he checks back ur owned by 88 or 77 or whatever he has pretty often. although it saves alot when he isn't folding

On February 04 2015 12:59 n0rthf4ce wrote: C/r ai riv imo...

So that villian bet/folds with what?