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Handnr: 1040720
Submitted by : Bejamin1

PokerStars Hand #120815457176: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2014/08/30 12:13:08 ET
Table Descamisada II 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: taras buliba ($51.69 in chips)
Seat 3: magiet12 ($58.60 in chips)
Seat 4: philipoist9 ($88.19 in chips)
Seat 5: Athlet90 ($62.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Bejamin1 ($62.45 in chips)
magiet12: posts small blind $0.10
philipoist9: posts big blind $0.25
taras buliba: posts the ante $0.05
magiet12: posts the ante $0.05
philipoist9: posts the ante $0.05
Athlet90: posts the ante $0.05
Bejamin1: posts the ante $0.05

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Bejamin1 9sQdAdAh
Athlet90: folds
Bejamin1: raises $0.85 to $1.10
taras buliba: folds
magiet12: folds
philipoist9: raises $2.55 to $3.65
Bejamin1: raises $7.65 to $11.30
philipoist9: calls $7.65

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $22.70)

   Ts6h5h
philipoist9: checks
Bejamin1: checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $22.70)

   Ts6h5h9h
philipoist9: bets $10.98
Bejamin1: raises $19.02 to $30
philipoist9: calls $19.02

River (Pot : $82.70)

   Ts6h5h9hKs
philipoist9: checks
Bejamin1: checks

Showdown
philipoist9: shows 6d5s4d7s (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
Bejamin1: mucks hand
philipoist9 collected $80.95 from pot

Summary
Total pot $82.95 | Rake $2
Board  Ts6h5h9hKs
Seat 1: taras buliba (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: magiet12 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: philipoist9 (big blind) showed 6d5s4d7s and won ($80.95) with two pair, Sixes and Fives
Seat 5: Athlet90 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Bejamin1 mucked 9sQdAdAh

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Bejamin1   Canada. Aug 30 2014 12:15. Posts 7042

Sigh.. so sick of being outfloppped...

I guess I can just bet flop here but turn seems to make a ton of sense... seriously though I'm so sick of not running good ever in key fucking hands lol

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waga   United Kingdom. Aug 30 2014 12:42. Posts 2375

so sick you were 55% favorite preflop against a hand that play better postflop (he can fold you can't)

cf lemon's AA


traxamillion   United States. Aug 30 2014 14:50. Posts 10468

you played this badly though; if you only 4b AAxx then you are deep enough to be exploited- it shows here because you felt uncomfortable pot/calling flop like you normally would with AA in a blown up pot.

As played you really need to shove the river; sets and other hands (low flush may call 1) will draw turn and fold river.


traxamillion   United States. Aug 30 2014 14:51. Posts 10468

and you have this attitude like you should be entitled to the pot because you have AA pre or something.

his doublesuited ungapped rundown is prettier and more rare than your hand


traxamillion   United States. Aug 30 2014 14:55. Posts 10468

well u raised turn too big to bluff river. m/r turn then shove river is much better than ur line. Also flatting turn and shoving river when checked to is better than your line and might be better than raising turn at all. Betting flop small and bombing the runout is better also.

 Last edit: 30/08/2014 14:57

awesomeguy   Finland. Aug 30 2014 15:07. Posts 61

turn is awful


Bejamin1   Canada. Aug 30 2014 18:48. Posts 7042

Yes I very rarely 4-bet in spots like this. Normally I just flat. His stats were just so insanely loose it seemed acceptable to do so vs. his range.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

Bejamin1   Canada. Aug 30 2014 18:56. Posts 7042

And yes this hand is obviously butchered that's why I posted it. Once I do the dumb thing (4-betting) I find it curious to see how others play in this spot. It's actually really hard for me to rep the flush when I don't bet flop (when would AAxx /w 2 hearts not pot-slam this flop?).

Also Trax, what's with the love for 4567DS. Even if it's a rare hand it's still not that great to be calling off just hoping to hit here. The frequency with which he actually catches a hand that is better than 50% on the flop isn't that high... his pre-flop % is dependent upon actually seeing all 5 cards. Something he often won't be able to do if I play the hand properly. (Which is probably to pot-slam and call off on most flops). Although I still find these spots seem more like gambling than anything else. Hoping to hit the right part of opponents ranges. A lot more work need to be done on them by me, but its not like I play with anyone often enough to really know their true 3-bet and 4-bet calling ranges.

Sorry dude he Jason Bourned me. -Johnny Drama 

fira   United States. Aug 30 2014 19:13. Posts 6345

interesting hand, i feel i misplay these spots super often

i guess u should just fold turn, u can't rep hearts at all after ckbk flop

as for preflop, i don't understand (ever) raising to an amount that allows the opponent to effectively shove, cause we always have AAxx and when we don't we kinda screw ourselves when he shoves his AA. like, if we had his hand we would always just call the 3bet right? so should we literally never 4bet, even with AA, since we don't really want to 4bet anything else? idk! big leak in my game tbh

i guess we if opponent is loose enough we can 4bet/call good blocker hands like AKQJ rainbow? can we ever 4bet/fold a hand like 6699? i think good postflop hands like 789Tds should always be a call... though we don't even hate getting it in vs AA pre that much, so can we just 4bet a huuuuuuuge amount of hands vs someone whose 3betting often? seems to depend on how often villain will shove non-AA hands. random thoughts!

 Last edit: 30/08/2014 19:18

 

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