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Handnr: 1031480
Submitted by : Trav94

PokerStars Hand #113395016451: Holdem No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2014/03/16 19:55:11 PT [2014/03/16 22:55:11 ET]
Table Thernoe 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: nixon2205 ($15.23 in chips)
Seat 3: kofei ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: johntay373 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 5: mrtgmzmrt ($10 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($21.48 in chips)
nixon2205: posts small blind $0.05
EXAH999: is sitting out
EXAH999 leaves the table
kofei: posts big blind $0.10

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero ThTc
johntay373: calls $0.10
mrtgmzmrt: folds
Hero: raises $0.30 to $0.40
nixon2205: calls $0.35
kofei: folds
nescafe.all joins the table at seat #2
johntay373: calls $0.30

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.30)

   TsJc4s
nixon2205: checks
johntay373: bets $0.70
Hero: raises $1.50 to $2.20
nixon2205: folds
johntay373: calls $1.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $5.70)

   TsJc4s5h
johntay373: checks
Hero: bets $3.50
johntay373: calls $3.50

River (Pot : $12.70)

   TsJc4s5h9h
johntay373: bets $4.15 and is all-in
Hero: calls $4.15

Showdown
johntay373: shows 8sQs (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Hero: shows ThTc (three of a kind, Tens)
johntay373 collected $20.06 from pot

Summary
Total pot $21 | Rake $0.94
Board  TsJc4s5h9h
Seat 1: nixon2205 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: kofei (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: johntay373 showed 8sQs and won ($20.06) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 5: mrtgmzmrt folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Hero (button) showed ThTc and lost with three of a kind, Tens

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Trav94   Canada. Mar 16 2014 22:59. Posts 1785

What am I supposed to do here. Obviously beat, guy has done this to me 3 times already today. How can I fold/play this better

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 Last edit: 16/03/2014 23:02

traxamillion   United States. Mar 16 2014 23:08. Posts 10468

Standard don't cry


Trav94   Canada. Mar 16 2014 23:20. Posts 1785

Not crying as much as I am mad at myself for not folding/playing bad

 Last edit: 16/03/2014 23:21

lhr0909   China. Mar 16 2014 23:20. Posts 423

check back turn?

no pain no gain 

Trav94   Canada. Mar 16 2014 23:22. Posts 1785


  On March 16 2014 22:20 lhr0909 wrote:
check back turn?



Why the hell would I give a free card..?


lhr0909   China. Mar 16 2014 23:24. Posts 423


  On March 16 2014 22:22 Trav94 wrote:
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Why the hell would I give a free card..?


well if he is just not folding, you aren't getting much more from it if he makes the flush/straight. I think it is good to check back vs ppl like these who are just chasing gutshots.

maybe you could shove turn? i am not sure, maybe i am not helping here.

no pain no gainLast edit: 16/03/2014 23:25

Trav94   Canada. Mar 16 2014 23:25. Posts 1785

But he doesn't make the draw as often as he misses so I lose value when he misses the river by not betting turn. What the fuck kind of advice are you trying to give me here


goose58   United States. Mar 16 2014 23:35. Posts 871

Well, you can never fold this river for this size, he can do this with 2pair.

Your flop raise was too small, you gave him good odds(not that it matters, his hand was good enough to ship the flop).

This board is super drawy, so your raises should be much larger. You want to get the most money possible in before the draws hit.

On the flop, the pot is 2.70 and you raised to 1.50 more, to 4.20 before his call. So he had to call 1.50 to win 5.70 = 26%

A pot size raise on the flop would be 2.70+.70= 3.40 which is a ways away from 2.20.

I like a raise to at least 2.7 total, but whatever.

As played, on the turn, bet bigger too, 3/4 pot bet is is 4.25, so something around that, you want to punish him.

If you raised the flop bigger, you could probably just ship the turn.

Other than that it's just a cooler because both of your hands are big.


lhr0909   China. Mar 16 2014 23:36. Posts 423

ok, I have played against people like this, and some of them is like, no matter how much you put in, they are going to call. This guy must be like "yo i got almost 20 outs i must be good here most of the time" and just gambles with you. The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards checking behind against THIS kind of player.

no pain no gain 

Trav94   Canada. Mar 16 2014 23:39. Posts 1785

I WANT HIM TO CALL. Why check the turn if I WANT A CALL. Why would I want to give his draws a free card. I should have just bet bigger like Goose said to charge those draws even more. Checking the turn is horrible.

 Last edit: 16/03/2014 23:42

goose58   United States. Mar 16 2014 23:46. Posts 871


  On March 16 2014 22:36 lhr0909 wrote:
ok, I have played against people like this, and some of them is like, no matter how much you put in, they are going to call. This guy must be like "yo i got almost 20 outs i must be good here most of the time" and just gambles with you. The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards checking behind against THIS kind of player.



If your opponent will call your bet no matter what size, going allin is the best and most profitable play. The more chips going in as the equity the favorite, the merrier.


SuFF   Poland. Mar 17 2014 00:21. Posts 447


  On March 16 2014 22:36 lhr0909 wrote:
ok, I have played against people like this, and some of them is like, no matter how much you put in, they are going to call. This guy must be like "yo i got almost 20 outs i must be good here most of the time" and just gambles with you. The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards checking behind against THIS kind of player.


quit poker bro
if the guy is chasing gutshots etc just bet big vs him, he will make BAD call which make u PROFIT...


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 17 2014 00:55. Posts 8648


  On March 16 2014 22:36 lhr0909 wrote:
ok, I have played against people like this, and some of them is like, no matter how much you put in, they are going to call. This guy must be like "yo i got almost 20 outs i must be good here most of the time" and just gambles with you. The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards checking behind against THIS kind of player.



Truck-Crash Life 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Mar 17 2014 01:44. Posts 9634


  On March 16 2014 22:36 lhr0909 wrote:
ok, I have played against people like this, and some of them is like, no matter how much you put in, they are going to call. This guy must be like "yo i got almost 20 outs i must be good here most of the time" and just gambles with you. The more I think about this, the more I am leaning towards checking behind against THIS kind of player.



cool story bro


Mariuslol   Norway. Mar 17 2014 02:10. Posts 4742

if anything, bigger turn bet, not a hand you should waste energy on after that =p move along


Achoo   Canada. Mar 17 2014 02:14. Posts 1454

If he keeps calling, adjust your bet sizing vs him, a bit bigger for value, don't ever bluff but keep semi-bluffing, obviously you want position on him. This hand is std, nothing to worry about, on the long run he's dead meat.

Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not 

lhr0909   China. Mar 17 2014 02:15. Posts 423

Sorry guys for saying something real dumb.. Now I know why you should bet huge when you have a big hand:



Full Tilt Poker Game #2064767854: NLHE 6max .10/.20 #4 - $0.10/$0.20 - No Limit Hold'em - 02:12:30 ET - 2014/03/17
Seat 1: gerbera ($68.24)
Seat 2: Jmerc609 ($42.05)
Seat 4: MrSkeleton ($19.58)
Seat 5: lhr0909 ($24.39)
Seat 6: orenmnero ($19.20)
Jmerc609 posts the small blind of $0.10
lhr0909 posts the big blind of $0.20
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lhr0909 [Tc Jc]
orenmnero raises to $0.60
gerbera folds
Jmerc609 folds
lhr0909 calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [3s 2c Kh]
lhr0909 checks
orenmnero checks
*** TURN *** [3s 2c Kh] Ac
lhr0909 bets $1.00
orenmnero calls $1.00
*** RIVER *** [3s 2c Kh Ac] 4c
lhr0909 bets $2.00
orenmnero raises to $4.00
lhr0909 calls $2.00
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lhr0909 shows [Tc Jc] (a Flush, Ace high +JT42)
orenmnero shows [Ks Kd] (Three of a Kind, Kings +A4)
lhr0909 wins the pot ($11.02)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $11.3 | Rake $0.28
Board: [3s 2c Kh Ac 4c]
Seat 1: gerbera folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Jmerc609 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: MrSkeleton
Seat 5: lhr0909 showed [Tc Jc] and won ($11.02)
Seat 6: orenmnero showed [Ks Kd] and lost




I am not quitting poker though. Not just yet.

no pain no gain 

traxamillion   United States. Mar 17 2014 04:37. Posts 10468

must be a troll


Trav94   Canada. Mar 17 2014 04:57. Posts 1785

No I'm pretty sure it was legitimate


lebowski   Greece. Mar 17 2014 10:38. Posts 9205


  On March 17 2014 03:37 traxamillion wrote:
must be a troll

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Balzamon   Sweden. Mar 17 2014 10:52. Posts 2868

Wtf is going on here


KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Mar 17 2014 11:44. Posts 1687


  On March 17 2014 09:52 Balzamon wrote:
Wtf is going on here



lol

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

Edjon   Netherlands. Mar 17 2014 12:22. Posts 1579


Daut    United States. Mar 17 2014 13:25. Posts 8955

LOL

if someone is 25% and will call anything, bet big and make a lot of money long run

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut 

 

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