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Handnr: 1030426
Submitted by : Cro)Deadman

PokerStars Hand #112648259975: Holdem No Limit ($0.08/$0.16 USD) - 2014/03/02 17:40:22 CET [2014/03/02 11:40:22 ET]
Table Juno 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ($34.63 in chips)
Seat 2: nitro_bug ($7.51 in chips)
Seat 3: titmouse_tm ($14.01 in chips)
Seat 4: Weak Tite ($16.34 in chips)
Seat 5: p0kernepro ($16 in chips)
Seat 6: the_lion_VIP ($35.72 in chips)
nitro_bug: posts small blind $0.08
titmouse_tm: posts big blind $0.16

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 2h2d
Weak Tite: raises $0.32 to $0.48
p0kernepro: folds
the_lion_VIP: folds
Hero: calls $0.48
nitro_bug: folds
titmouse_tm: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.20)

   3h5c5d
Weak Tite: checks
Hero: bets $0.80
Weak Tite: calls $0.80

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2.80)

   3h5c5dAs
Weak Tite: checks
Hero: bets $1.76
Weak Tite: calls $1.76

River (Pot : $6.32)

   3h5c5dAs4h
Weak Tite: checks
Hero: bets $4.16
Weak Tite: calls $4.16

Showdown
Hero: shows 2h2d (a straight, Ace to Five)
Weak Tite: mucks hand
Hero collected $13.98 from pot

Summary
Total pot $14.64 | Rake $0.66
Board  3h5c5dAs4h
Seat 1: Hero (button) showed 2h2d and won ($13.98) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 2: nitro_bug (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: titmouse_tm (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Weak Tite mucked KsAd
Seat 5: p0kernepro folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: the_lion_VIP folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 02 2014 13:02. Posts 8646

turn barrel is spew, he's going to have Ax like almost always.

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Cro)Deadman   Croatia. Mar 02 2014 14:04. Posts 3943

anyone legit trying to play well can go for pot control 66-TT on flop trying to induce more bets esp given my aggresion, so while I do think ur generally right I'd classify the villain as someone capable of that which makes my turn bet valid.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 02 2014 15:10. Posts 15143

do you bet your own AX hand on flop?

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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 02 2014 16:46. Posts 8646

why would he check flop with 66-TT to induce more bets from you and then check-fold turn? even if your plan is to build the pot and barrel him off 66-TT on the river, he still has a lot more Ax in his range than 66-TT. not to mention the times he just says fuck it and calls river with 66-TT anyway, which i'd imagine happens at least sometimes if he views you as being that aggressive.

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 02 2014 16:51. Posts 15143

Ye like if you wanna have non 0 bluff range your hand's rly good to do it with tho no? dont see any other draws we have

I dunno tho, paired boards are really weird to analyze

93% Sure! Last edit: 02/03/2014 16:52

bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Mar 02 2014 17:04. Posts 8646


  On March 02 2014 15:51 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Ye like if you wanna have non 0 bluff range your hand's rly good to do it with tho no? dont see any other draws we have

I dunno tho, paired boards are really weird to analyze



if we deduce villain has a range that's not profitable to bluff, why do we need to have a bluff range?

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 02 2014 17:37. Posts 15143

you have it if you either
1) think he's balanced and will fold with some frequency (this guy's a NL50 reg still it's really weird to do on paired boards had so many head ache causing discussions about this ) and/or you want to be balanced yourself
OR
2) your FE is unknown because you don't have enough info - you just try to have have some bluffing range in all spots really - this is what you will often use at micros where regs play so random. Often there's 2 concepts going against each other and it's hard to have enough reads/ready the dynamic well to just skew your range one way 100%

if you know your FE pretty well and that he'll call too much and you don't want to force being balanced just for the sake of it yeah no need for bluffing range tho Deadman played with him and thinks villain will fold on the turn with some frequency


I dunno about the range, say he CC only strong aces and 66-TT and bets all strong hands, hands he wants to cbet and cf air (is that correct? paired boards are gay I have no clue should I check mah A5s 33 55 here? oO)
TT-66, 44, ATs+, AJo+

The bluff needs to work 38.6% of the time OTT
we have 12.5% equity when called, giving us some implied odds too as shown in results as bonus and
his PP is 48% of his range

I mean hard to say innit
It will depend a lot if villain thinks /if we actually do (not sure on the whole perceived vs actual range thing - perceived range is just trying to do magic and guess what he thinks exactly) bet our own AX on the flop or not because if yes we should definitely include the strongest draw in our range into our bluffing range as the A hits us a lot too and we should get respect as
- the card hits his range a lot and we still bet
- he can safely fold a lot of his PP without being exploited as AX is still most of his range and our bluffs have very little chance to improve on the river

But ye paired boards are weird and Im just starting to look at postflop stuff so don't even try to listen to me :D

93% Sure! Last edit: 02/03/2014 18:11

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 02 2014 17:51. Posts 15143

If you actually tried to read my post, let me make it up to you:

More in my latest blog!

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TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 02 2014 22:43. Posts 20070

based of previous hand overbet river

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