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Handnr: 1004617
Submitted by : DustySwedeDude

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Prima)
€5000.00 EUR PL Omaha - Saturday, March 16, 01:25:52 ET 2013
Table River PLO 2 5K Max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €4636.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 70, PFR: 45, 3B: 17, AF: 2.2, Hands: 40
Seat 3: Player3 ( €1325.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 90, PFR: 25, 3B: 7, AF: 1.5, Hands: 374
Seat 6: Hero ( €6468.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 28, 3B: 11, AF: 3.6, Hands: 229794
Hero posts small blind [€25.00 EUR].
Player1 posts big blind [€50.00 EUR].

Holecards(Odds)
   QdAd
Hero raises [€125.00 EUR]
Player1 calls [€100.00 EUR]

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $275.00)

   3d2sTs
Player1 checks
Hero bets [€200.00 EUR]
Player1 raises [€900.00 EUR]
Hero calls [€700.00 EUR]

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $2,075.00)

   3d2sTs8c
Player1 bets [€2100.00 EUR]
Hero raises [€4200.00 EUR]
Player1 calls [€1486.00 EUR]

Showdown
Player1 shows5s,As2h7c
Hero shows6c,TcQdAd

River (Pot : $9,247.00)

   3d2sTs8c9c
Hero wins €9271.00 EUR from main pot
Hero wins €614.00 EUR from main pot
Just no way my play is good . What's better, checking flop?

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sir_   Estonia. Mar 16 2013 04:05. Posts 128

haha zomg :D

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chicken salad out of chicken shit  

Eluflop   Estonia. Mar 16 2013 06:33. Posts 3835

so siiiick


MeProOk   Bulgaria. Mar 16 2013 07:32. Posts 246

i play much lower, so you know better, but here is my understanding-
you have to be betting flop - he can't really have much here and you need to protect your hand. once you got check raised i think folding is too weak and you still have the best hand very often. can't jam for obvious reasons, so only option is call and reevaluate turn. there are a lot of good turns for us where we can get it in happily (T, Q, diamond and I would say 6 and A too, as I don't see him having too much 45 in his range) and also turns that slow him down a ton (ex. board pairing). Once this turn comes and he pots it, I don't see a hand in his range that we are ahead of. Flipping with A4ss** and A5ss**, slightly behind vs pair+gutshot+fd and a big underdog vs all his other range that plays that way and pots turn. I guess this would be KK**ss that he didnt 3bet pre, 2 pair, sets (unlikely, but still possible), any two pair, any ten with fd, etc. Based on this I would just fold turn, risking to miss a flip vs the hand he showed up with, which leans towards the bottom part of his range. Some calculations I did-
board: 2s3sTd8c
Hand Equity
AdQdTc6c 27.26%
22**, 33**, TT**, 23**, 2T**, 3T**, As4s**, As5s**, Ts8*s*, Ts*s**,As45*s, KKs*s*, As*s** 72.74%


Without 2 pair or sets:

board: 2s3sTd8c
Hand Equity
AdQdTc6c 36.90%
As4s**, As5s**, Ts8*s*, Ts*s**,As45*s, KKs*s*, As*s** 63.10%


Now this is of course, if you have no reads and ignoring stats (too little sample).

ofc, I might be totally off and games on plo5k be lose as shit.
and wtf did they take 25EUR RAKE? that's huge.


DustySwedeDude   Sweden. Mar 16 2013 08:03. Posts 8623

They have max rake of 3€ so it's probably the converter that fucked up.

I agree with you for the most part but calling a pot raise (which probably is less air and more strongish draws and such, probably not as much TT** either) and then giving up on a lot of blanks seems weird. Might be correct anyway though.

I think you need to remove like half the sets and half the KKxxss since those either uses other raise sizes/3bets pre/slowplays and I don't think dry TXXX with just a flush draw and nothing more plays it like this for the most part either. Other then that I agree.

I don't really play 25/50 much but nothing else ran except for some 10/20 HU and I did not recognize the names so I figured I'd give it a shot.

If it helps I think my general feel before the hand was that he probably was recreational and somewhat straight forward.


MeProOk   Bulgaria. Mar 16 2013 08:16. Posts 246

The thing is that he potted twice, which I don't think any regular would do with any hand in this spot. Therefore I agree with you that he is recreational, so this is why i was expecting him to make this play with most or all of his hands (overvaluing hands, having only one bet sizing - POT, etc). Exciting to see what others think.


MiPwnYa    Brasil. Mar 16 2013 23:11. Posts 5230

nothin wrong with checkin back flop vs a tough opponent (hes not, so I like cbet/calling since our hand plays sort of OK on the turn, cbet folding is prob an option too vs very fit/fold opponent that will always have monsters there)
as played turn dsnt look too good lol

 Last edit: 17/03/2013 20:43

 

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