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Handnr: 1004023
Submitted by : the cleaner

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, March 07, 03:55:34 ET 2013
Table Biham III Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $119.21 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 7, AF: 3.1, Hands: 5519
Seat 2: Player2 $106.16 USD - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 4, AF: 2.2, Hands: 1736
Seat 3: Player3 $128.04 USD - VPIP: 52, PFR: 25, 3B: 14, AF: 2.8, Hands: 141
Seat 4: Player4 $131.60 USD - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.8, Hands: 1929
Seat 5: Hero $202.58 USD - VPIP: 22, PFR: 17, 3B: 8, AF: 2.9, Hands: 812611
Seat 6: Player6 $111.51 USD - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 7, AF: 3.0, Hands: 5854
Player2 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [KhAh ]
Player4 raises [$3.00 USD]
Hero raises [$10.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$21.50 USD]
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Hero calls [$12.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $47.50)

   4hJhAd
Player2 bets [$17.00 USD]
Hero calls [$17.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $81.50)

   4hJhAdJs
Player2 checks
Hero checks

River (Pot : $81.50)

   4hJhAdJs8c
Player2 bets [$67.16 USD]

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r0mx0   Slovakia. Mar 07 2013 16:20. Posts 1580

AAA

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You gotta plow through that shit !  

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 07 2013 16:25. Posts 3014

i doubt he is ever bluffing or value betting worse. split pot at best. fold right ?

there are no facts only interpretations 

GoTuNk   Chile. Mar 07 2013 16:47. Posts 2860

c/r flop? jam pre? T_T


the cleaner   Germany. Mar 07 2013 16:55. Posts 3014

i'm 3betting a tight utg opener, i think we aren't in good shape preflop in an all in situation against his legitimate 4betting hands. same goes for postflop. i think we are only get him to fold worse (his air hands) or call with AK or better hands.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 07/03/2013 16:56

Tensai176   Canada. Mar 07 2013 16:59. Posts 1018

I am super noob but this looks like call ~.`


GoTuNk   Chile. Mar 07 2013 17:10. Posts 2860


  On March 07 2013 15:55 the cleaner wrote:
i'm 3betting a tight utg opener, i think we aren't in good shape preflop in an all in situation against his legitimate 4betting hands. same goes for postflop. i think we are only get him to fold worse (his air hands) or call with AK or better hands.



we have 60% equity against JTs, and 47% vs underpairs. If he is bluffing enough it seems its good for us when he folds.

Edit: Also, why did you stop using skype?

 Last edit: 07/03/2013 17:11

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 07 2013 17:17. Posts 3014

i'm on skype cleaner11111

cold 4betting JTs or underpairs don't think so, unless he's

there are no facts only interpretations 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 07 2013 17:36. Posts 15163

why do you 3bet in the first place dawg oO

93% Sure!  

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 07 2013 17:37. Posts 15163

From your postflop analysis this seems to be a clear flat preflop.

93% Sure!  

SleepyHead   . Mar 07 2013 17:39. Posts 878

At this point you just have to call and that's all there is to it. He can have lower aces or bluffs 28% of the time or whatever it has to be. If he can't ever have lower aces or bluffs then you should have played the hand differently somewhere.

If you know he only 4bets absolute monsters then you should have just folded pre. If you know he won't bluff the river or value bet the river with worse then you should have bet the turn or raised the flop to get value from his worse hands. As played you induced his bet and now you have to call.

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 07 2013 17:40. Posts 3014

i probably flat like 90% or the time there and 3bet 10% or so. this was one of those times.

there are no facts only interpretations 

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 07 2013 17:47. Posts 3014

thanks for replies so far.

we have 32% vs AKs,KK+. but to be fair i'm not sure if he is 4betting AKs preflop. in that case we are crushed and should fold. regardless of preflop, i just don't think he bluffs in this spot ever, cause he doesn't bluffs preflop and which case i think we are at best calling for a chop.

there are no facts only interpretations 

LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Mar 07 2013 17:52. Posts 15163


  On March 07 2013 16:40 the cleaner wrote:
i probably flat like 90% or the time there and 3bet 10% or so. this was one of those times.


there's no need for the 10% imo, just flat QQ AK 3bet him KK+ and throw in some bluff hands unless he starts adjusting, you just force spots like this one where you can play the hand perfectly IP when you simply flat and unlike with weaker hands you don't mind people behind you squeezing.
And when he does adjust by widening his ranges then this hand would be elementary to play dear watson

93% Sure!  

SleepyHead   . Mar 07 2013 17:59. Posts 878


  On March 07 2013 16:47 the cleaner wrote:
thanks for replies so far.

we have 32% vs AKs,KK+.


That may be true but we're not all in. We still have to play post flop, and against that range he's going to put us in a lot of bad spots and we're going to put him in very few bad spots.

Dude you some social darwinist ideas that they are giving hitlers ghost a boner - Baal 

the cleaner   Germany. Mar 07 2013 18:02. Posts 3014

good points

there are no facts only interpretations 

Fraser   Canada. Mar 07 2013 18:19. Posts 4605

Easy call as played. There has got to be a bluff %. Plus the chop % is enormous. One combo of AA vs how many combos of AK?

Answer: 6 combos of AK! Even if he doesnt always 4bet AK I think that gives you pot-odds to call.

 Last edit: 07/03/2013 18:21

jvilla777   Australia. Mar 07 2013 18:53. Posts 1348

if he is aware of his tight image and being UTG he could 4b AQ here pre.

longple: ur missing the point! this is an attempt to get away from the bumhuntmentality! 

Mardagg   Germany. Mar 07 2013 21:31. Posts 843


  On March 07 2013 16:40 the cleaner wrote:
i probably flat like 90% or the time there and 3bet 10% or so. this was one of those times.



lol,man,6max is way more nitty than full ring.

I like betting 17 on the turn.

As played i tank call river.
AA just so unlikely with us having AK and Ax board.

 Last edit: 07/03/2013 21:33

 

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