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are there that many fish playing razz or are you just really good at it?

why did you ever start to study razz?

i didnt realize you could actually have an edge like that in razz

are there srsly that many fish?

On December 09 2008 16:37 CrownRoyal wrote: i didnt realize you could actually have an edge like that in razz are there srsly that many fish?

yes

On December 09 2008 16:25 Tycho wrote: why did you ever start to study razz?

i like money =)

I envy you, I really like stud games, but I can't play more than 3 tables without forgetting dead cards.

is 1PTBB/100 a good result in limit games?

On December 09 2008 17:09 moneypoker wrote: is 1PTBB/100 a good result in limit games?

to be honest i have no clue whats considered a good result. im just happy that im winning.

whats a good bankroll for razz? 500BB?

On December 09 2008 17:27 moneypoker wrote: whats a good bankroll for razz? 500BB?

id say 300bb+

On December 09 2008 17:28 djforever wrote: Show nested quote + On December 09 2008 17:27 moneypoker wrote: whats a good bankroll for razz? 500BB? id say 300bb+

depends on ur game. ironically enough, the 3/6-10/20 games on stars/ftp are much tougher than the 30/60 games. honestly as wierd as this sounds 300+BB for higher stakes and like 500 or so for lower to midstakes

On December 09 2008 17:34 shaneomac wrote: Show nested quote + On December 09 2008 17:28 djforever wrote:   On December 09 2008 17:27 moneypoker wrote: whats a good bankroll for razz? 500BB? id say 300bb+ depends on ur game. ironically enough, the 3/6-10/20 games on stars/ftp are much tougher than the 30/60 games. honestly as wierd as this sounds 300+BB for higher stakes and like 500 or so for lower to midstakes

yeah but you realize they are tougher because their structure dictates that a tighter game is more optimal, as opposed to the structure of the higher limits that encourages steals and loose play. if the lower limits had a structure similar to the higher limits, it would change the game flow a lot.

edit: then youd see that the players are not better at lower limits, but just play tighter.

yeah there is definitely a different flow. i am going by what other razz players have told me when i played it, and by what wired has told me. i used his method from what he taught me and i never won a single dollar @ razz. i do not believe it was cuz i sucked, maybe i was just playing too loose for those games, or ran bad, idk, but ive heard from a bunch of different ppl that the higher stakes are easier than the midstakes.

this is a stupid debate obv, all i was advocating from experience is to use more than 300BBs if hes going to try to break into the 3/6-5/10 games to begin with

On December 09 2008 17:53 shaneomac wrote: yeah there is definitely a different flow. i am going by what other razz players have told me when i played it, and by what wired has told me. i used his method from what he taught me and i never won a single dollar @ razz. i do not believe it was cuz i sucked, maybe i was just playing too loose for those games, or ran bad, idk, but ive heard from a bunch of different ppl that the higher stakes are easier than the midstakes. this is a stupid debate obv, all i was advocating from experience is to use more than 300BBs if hes going to try to break into the 3/6-5/10 games to begin with

its not really a debate. they are all legitamite points. and we both know wired is the nuts when it comes to razz. and yeah thats prob true, i dont know ive never actually grinded the low limits for razz so i guess i have no say =(.

and likewise ive never played the high stakes. i think i couldve beat the higher stakes had i gotten a chance. still tilted i couldnt beat those faggots that play razz

On December 09 2008 18:08 shaneomac wrote: and likewise ive never played the high stakes. i think i couldve beat the higher stakes had i gotten a chance. still tilted i couldnt beat those faggots that play razz

you can always start =)

edit: again...

haha i need to just focus on one thing, and if ima play razz, i would wanna come in playing the 10/20 games and higher. right now, i am trying to beat NL100 FR and once i get to NL200 ima integrate 6m in and try to become a better coach and hopefully find a coach to mentor me. i wish i could play razz the game is so ez imo. lol @ again...

do u ever play nlhe nemore?

[B] do u ever play nlhe nemore?

yeah, good question