Rant Against Religion

hmmm

rants are pretty fun maybe I'll do them more often

absence of proof =/= proof of absence

also, time is finite and so is the universe

with that said, religion is a mixed blessing at best in politics, but lately it seems to be a pretty negative influence imo.

i suppose i adhere to agnosticism with heavy tendencies towards atheism for the record

ive yet to see any rants against the atheism. Using offense as defense, you try to undermine other peoples belief because you have doubt in your own disbelief, because lets face it, everyone wants to have a purpose.

How about you accept the path you chosen and just let everyone do their own thing?

On October 01 2008 00:16 SfydjkLm wrote: ive yet to see any rants against the atheism. Using offense as defense, you try to undermine other peoples belief because you have doubt in your own disbelief, because lets face it, everyone wants to have a purpose. How about you accept the path you chosen and just let everyone do their own thing?

I do not doubt that there is no 'GOD'. If there was one, I don't believe he would be so egotistical to demand prayers + to spread his word. Sounds like a rich spoiled kid rather than a deity.

Acceptance of no purpose is the most relieving conclusion to come to. How can a believer live there life to the fullest when they know they have a better life ahead of them? An atheist understands this is it.

As for the last part.... I would be on my way except it does affect my everyday life. If you lived in America we'd have the same rights etc... So why do so many people believe their rights are somehow more important than mine? I have the right to say enough fucking religion as everyone else does that "spreads the word of GOD"

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On October 01 2008 00:15 sirracksalot wrote: absence of proof =/= proof of absence also, time is finite and so is the universe with that said, religion is a mixed blessing at best in politics, but lately it seems to be a pretty negative influence imo. i suppose i adhere to agnosticism with heavy tendencies towards atheism for the record

btw... Random tidbit... I really do hate arguing with anyone who is agnostic ;P damn you fence sitters! <3

effectively i live my life as an atheist if it makes you feel better...lol
i just dont see how you can be so sure in your beliefs, just as i dont see how a christian or muslim or any other religious person can be so sure in theirs. you have just as much proof as they. empiricism is the way to go, but as i said absence of proof is not proof of absence.
i do find many aspects of major organized religions to be ludicrous tho, but ill still reserve final judgement

On October 01 2008 00:22 devon06atX wrote: Show nested quote + On October 01 2008 00:16 SfydjkLm wrote: ive yet to see any rants against the atheism. Using offense as defense, you try to undermine other peoples belief because you have doubt in your own disbelief, because lets face it, everyone wants to have a purpose. How about you accept the path you chosen and just let everyone do their own thing? abortion? stem cell research?

All tricky subjects, and not just because of "God told us not to!"

hell, look at ur countries bills. "In God We Trust"

Yea yea and freemasonic symbols. Your point?
Besides in a predominantly religious society what do you expect? It to be carved around your personal opinion? Unreasonable.

On October 01 2008 00:22 Svenman87 wrote: I do not doubt that there is no 'GOD'.

Of course you do. People doubt their sexuality, people doubt their religion, people doubt what to have for breakfast. People doubt.

If there was one, I don't believe he would be so egotistical to demand prayers + to spread his word. Sounds like a rich spoiled kid rather than a deity.

Well if you wanna get technical i do believe He is offering us an eternal life in Heaven for a couple of prayers a day? Small price to pay. In as a poker player you of all people should understand how +EV religion is. A couple of sacrifices and a couple of minutes to pray in exchange for ETERNAL happiness? I shove all day.

Besides prayer is not for God. Prayer is for people to feel better.

And spreading his word? Oh man, Heaven forbid i teach another man not to kill or cheat on his wife. Thats so bad and egoistic!

Acceptance of no purpose is the most relieving conclusion to come to. How can a believer live there life to the fullest when they know they have a better life ahead of them? An atheist understands this is it.

Well you know, some people(dem weirdos) actually consider living their life helping other people being living it to the fullest.

As for the last part.... I would be on my way except it does affect my everyday life. If you lived in America we'd have the same rights etc... So why do so many people believe their rights are somehow more important than mine? I have the right to say enough fucking religion as everyone else does that "spreads the word of GOD"

I do live in New York. Yes of course you do have that right but opinion of many outweights opinion of few. Thats life.

Oh and as far as hardon collider is concerned its gonna prove His existence! Havent you read angels and demons?

And also I always see atheist say as reasoning:
"If there was God why wouldnt he make us mindless happy monkeys!"
Well, i dont really know if its the best course of action to take, i sure would like to be happy, but id like to keep my mind too.

Mythrolled?

erm, mindless happy monkeys...i guess if there is a god, he made us mindless random cells that eventually evolved into humans with a brain. The earth is just a rock with bacteria on it which eventually grew into it's own little ecosystem in the universe. Probably just some random experiment in the future's collider which has created our universe and we are actually only lasting less than one millisecond inside of an experiment which feels like an eternity for us. WRAP YOUR MIND AROUND THAT ONE.

On October 01 2008 00:48 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On October 01 2008 00:22 Svenman87 wrote: I do not doubt that there is no 'GOD'. Of course you do. People doubt their sexuality, people doubt their religion, people doubt what to have for breakfast. People doubt. -Ah yes, since I have doubts that obviously is the proof [I don't see where you're going with this point] Well if you wanna get technical i do believe He is offering us an eternal life in Heaven for a couple of prayers a day? Small price to pay. In as a poker player you of all people should understand how +EV religion is. A couple of sacrifices and a couple of minutes to pray in exchange for ETERNAL happiness? I shove all day. -Again I think eternal happiness would be absolute shit. ETERNAL HAPPINESS?! How does one have eternal happiness without trying to take a screwdriver to their own brain after even oh a few million years of 'bliss' Besides prayer is not for God. Prayer is for people to feel better. -Great, so prayer is only to help the people who doubt there is a GOD... But at least it makes you feel better if you pray to something made up? And spreading his word? Oh man, Heaven forbid i teach another man not to kill or cheat on his wife. Thats so bad and egoistic! -You're right! Because atheists have NO SENSE of morality because that's what religion is for. :   Acceptance of no purpose is the most relieving conclusion to come to. How can a believer live there life to the fullest when they know they have a better life ahead of them? An atheist understands this is it. Well you know, some people(dem weirdos) actually consider living their life helping other people being living it to the fullest. -I love when christians bring up the point of 'but what about all the GOOD religion brings about' You really think the people who volunteer their time on behalf of religion wouldn't volunteer their time because they are just a good person? Despite popular belief [religious point of view] you can be atheist AND volunteer! Crazy I know!   As for the last part.... I would be on my way except it does affect my everyday life. If you lived in America we'd have the same rights etc... So why do so many people believe their rights are somehow more important than mine? I have the right to say enough fucking religion as everyone else does that "spreads the word of GOD" I do live in New York. Yes of course you do have that right but opinion of many outweights opinion of few. Thats life.

-We also use to burn witches I guess the majority is always right :

On October 01 2008 00:39 sirracksalot wrote: effectively i live my life as an atheist if it makes you feel better...lol i just dont see how you can be so sure in your beliefs, just as i dont see how a christian or muslim or any other religious person can be so sure in theirs. you have just as much proof as they. empiricism is the way to go, but as i said absence of proof is not proof of absence. i do find many aspects of major organized religions to be ludicrous tho, but ill still reserve final judgement

so you're also on the fence about Santa, the Easter bunny, the tooth fairy, Zeus, Thor, etc? I realize you can reserve final judgment...
Hrm
I guess if there was a 'being who created us' it wouldn't change my view on religion. I still wouldn't believe he is somehow here to save us and bring us eternal happiness, nor would I believe he deserves any more respect then a bum on the streets. If anything your parents are GOD ;P there is actually proof of that

don't be closeminded

then your rant becomes hypocrisy

On October 01 2008 06:37 asdf2000 wrote: don't be closeminded then your rant becomes hypocrisy

I don't see how I'm being anymore close minded then anyone else here.
I guess having a strong viewpoint polar opposite of the norm is now close minded.
I'm such an ass to even attempt to tear religion down :[ damn my hypocrisy.

-well i'm off to work. I hope by the time I get home there is some huge religious nit on LP that tears into me

On October 01 2008 06:10 Svenman87 wrote: -We also use to burn witches I guess the majority is always right :

I didnt say that, i said you cant expect society to act upon opinion of few. It just doesnt work that way. Besides whats "right"? Who says your right is better then other peoples rights?
Yea.