This is my poker life.

Or sometimes I'll make a strong hand and get action! Like this:

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My last 4+ pocket aces/kings looked like this

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So that's my latest rant.

But seriously, I could really use a coach or someone to look over my shoulder and tell me what's up. I am having two major issues from what I can see:

1. Never getting paid when I make a hand

2. Never making a hand

3. Ok seriously for problem #2, help me please. Jesus christ. I can't figure out what's going on :/

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I only looked at your first hand, but you played it poorly.

Focus on what you can control, not what you can't. Read the forums and get better at poker.



you sound like a baby. any loser can blame everything on their bad luck, actually that is exactly what they do and it's why they stay losers.

Aghhhh, why was it badly played? I thought I was getting value from it or something? What's up?

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And I do read the forums, for many hours, but there must be some piece of the puzzle that I'm missing.

none of these are really coolers. if you were being overset then I think you'd have something to bitch about. play more hands and keep posting ones you have trouble with. gl.

poker is not easy, if it was easy more people would do it. anyone who says it easy has either been lucky, or naturally has the right traits to make a good poker pro. most people do not.

it takes alot of playing and alot of learning to get better.


hand 1.)

why raise preflop at these stakes. but I guess that may just be a question of style.

I would not raise the flop but it's ok if you do I guess. But I would raise more, that raise is tiny.
calling the turn is fine, the river raise is ok but could be slightly bigger.

but when he reraises you on the river u need to flat call. he clearly at least has the 10. by pushing u are sometimes handing KT your stack here.


hand 2.)



your flop bet sucks. u have a gutshot straight draw from OOP and it's very unlikely they will fold so u are better off checking.

your river checkraise sucks. u should bet out, ur hand is not that strong. there are tons of hands that beat yours. this is shown when he flat calls your checkraise and is still ahead.



hand 3.)

this is a fairly easy flop fold.


the #1 trait of a professional poker player is patience. if you think any sort of bad luck you have faced so far is really bad, I guarrantee you are in for a rude awakening in the future. the best thing you can do is keep your focus on how you play, not your results.

rant less and use the time to play more

First, thank you.

Your advice not to raise preflop is completely opposite from everything I've been told :/

But yeah, could you explain *why* for this? These are my thought processes.
Hand1:

I raised flop because I thought I had a pretty strong hand, top pair plus OESD. I raised tiny because the pot was tiny. Why is this wrong?

Hand2:

Flop bet was just to start building pot incase I hit. I guess it was a waste of time.

Check raise was bad on such a deadly board.

So I guess I don't have any questions about this hand.

Hand3:

Yeah I should of folded, tilt. Aghhhh.

my advice to your complaints would be:
1 - if you're not getting paid you should be bluffing more
2 - you're probably not getting action because you're only betting when you got a strong hand, make thinner value bets
3 - there's lots of money to be made without showdown

BUT, it looks like you have some work to do on your foundation before you get to those

kimseongchan,

Well that's what's really funny and half the reason I get angry about never getting paid. Everything I win is in non-showdown pots. I have a 79% cbet flop at NL5 6max. The problem is that whenever they call my cbet I end up with the weaker hand.

When people call my cbet I have no idea what to do unless I have the stone cold nuts.. then I make a 3/4th bet on the turn and they fold.

What do I do when people call my cbet and my hand is middle pair? Or top pair good kicker?

Maybe if I post my stats they will show some obvious leaks? What stats should I put in the screenshot?


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I've played just about 20k hands in the past 15 days, 4.5k @ NL5 6max, 1k @ NL5 FR, 12k @ NL2 FR, ~2k @ NL2 6max. So I guess my sample is sort of representative..

On June 25 2008 17:39 Night2o1 wrote: First, thank you. Your advice not to raise preflop is completely opposite from everything I've been told :/ But yeah, could you explain *why* for this? These are my thought processes. Hand1: I raised flop because I thought I had a pretty strong hand, top pair plus OESD. I raised tiny because the pot was tiny. Why is this wrong?

You have a pair of jacks, ten kicker. The straight draw is exactly that, a draw. This is a perfect hand for calling with. Since you don't raise he won't know what you have, and even if you're beat you get to draw to the straight. And if he checks then you can bet if you want. And if he is bluffing then he may continue bluffing and you win more money.

Raising just keeps in hands that most likely have you beat and folds out the rest (generally).

Hand2: Flop bet was just to start building pot incase I hit. I guess it was a waste of time.

not worth it, even at these stakes.



A large part of poker is mitigating your losses, rather than trying to maximize your wins. You do not have to win often in order to make big profit. You just have to be patient, put in the time, and play your hands the most profitably you can.

Thanks asdf2000

np

and my last post has been updated btw. u replied fast

On June 25 2008 18:06 Night2o1 wrote: kimseongchan, Well that's what's really funny and half the reason I get angry about never getting paid. Everything I win is in non-showdown pots. I have a 79% cbet flop at NL5 6max. The problem is that whenever they call my cbet I end up with the weaker hand. When people call my cbet I have no idea what to do unless I have the stone cold nuts.. then I make a 3/4th bet on the turn and they fold. What do I do when people call my cbet and my hand is middle pair? Or top pair good kicker? Maybe if I post my stats they will show some obvious leaks? What stats should I put in the screenshot? /edit I've played just about 20k hands in the past 15 days, 4.5k @ NL5 6max, 1k @ NL5 FR, 12k @ NL2 FR, ~2k @ NL2 6max. So I guess my sample is sort of representative..

For not knowing what to do, you answered your own question; fire a 3/4th bet on any good turn (i.e. overcards) as a 2nd barrel to get them to fold (when you have a hand that's not strong enough to see a showdown).

When people call your cbet, look at the board texture and think about your opponent's tendencies. If it's a drawy board and my opponent is a station then I have no problem value betting middle pair at least two streets, or if I'm oop I'll bet, bet and bluff catch on a safe river. If it's a dry flop like A38r and villain is TAG then firing one barrel and giving up is most likely the best way you can play the hand.

If you're playing more then 4 tables I would cut back to 4 for a while and just think about every hand, especially 6-max. For FR I'd say standard ABC poker should have you crushing the games even if you're playing 12+ tables; it's just a matter of logging in hands.

Good point, thanks. Its just that a lot of my losing sessions have been "Make lots of small profit (cbet folds), make a few giant losses" lol. I am having a lot of trouble handling the post-flop play after my cbet is called.

If you feel like helping some more ^^ Here are some stats.. tried to take the relevant ones..

Stats are filtered for my 4.5k hands @ NL5 6max.. not sure which relevant stats I may be leaving out.

VP$IP 24
PFR 19
WS$WSF 45
WTSD 29
W$SD 45
AF 2.59
AFQ 53
3Bet 11
Att to Steal 33
Fold BB to steal 82
Fold SB to steal 85
CBet F 79


Dunno what else may be relevant.

Thanks for any more input, friend.

Thanks kimseongchan.

For 6max I have been playing just 2, 3 or 4 tables ><. I think one of my major leaks is tilting from everyone folding to my good hands, and then my acting like a jackass (ie: a hand I didn't post where everything told me the guy had me beat w/ top pair to my two pair, he rivered trips and I refuse to fold heh.) I guess I need to be more disciplined/patient with this..

I just posted my stats if you care to take a look.

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I'm going out now so I won't be around for about 4-6 hours, but I'll be checking this the second I get home so I'd really like any replies. Much appreciated.

Your stats seem pretty standard.

In general the stats don't matter too much after a certain point. Like you said, discipline is very important; you can play solidly for an hour and just crack and tilt away a buy-in at the end of the session, but that type of stuff doesn't show up in your stats.

Thanks