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k2o4 United States. Jan 24 2008 13:42. Posts 4803 | | |
As you can see below I've recently started taking shots @ NL200. I've been very disciplined about it and followed a strict set of rules:
-3 tables max
-2 stupid mistakes and I quit the session
-1 tilty mistake and I quit the session
-Move back to NL100 if I lose more than 3 buyins.
So doing that I've been up and down a lot lately. I peaked @ a $6,500 roll, but then I cashed out $500 to cover some expenses coming up in Feb with the new apartment. Jumped back onto NL200 with 30 buyins and lost 3 and a half, so I went back to NL100. Worked back to $5,900 and tried NL200 again. Dropped 1.5 buyins, took a break, then won 1.5 buyins. So I'm sitting @ $5,900 and down about 1.5 buyins lifetime in NL200.
I'm getting better at it. That's for sure. But it's by far the hardest transition I've ever made and it has been quite tough. I am not giving up on it though. I really feel like I'm mostly just shooting myself in the foot with some horrendously bad plays. It's just much harder to get money out of people and I get frustrated and tilt it off. I'm also facing so much more aggression that ends up confusing me and also tilts me eventually. I really am my own worst enemy cause every single big pot I lost was by doing something I KNOW I shouldn't do, but I ended up doing it anyway because of either tilt or overthinking the situation, possibly even trying to overthink it cause I want to get a reason to be involved.
Anyway, I've been going over my hands pretty meticulously so that I can figure out how to improve and beat this limit. Just posted 2 new threads on the medium stakes forum which I hope get some replies. Here are all those hands again, cause I wanna try and get as much help as possible:
| | Here are 2 hands that I feel like I spewed but I got lucky and it worked out for me. The first hand especially fits into that description. I really need a LOT of help and advice on these hands and fully expect to be berated for my idiocy, so flame away. Hands are in the spoilers.
1) Villain is super nitty TAG (7.5/6/3) reg who plays LOTS of tables (not sure how many cause he hides from search, but I see him everywhere). There are 3 questions I have about this hand.
A. I'm gonna be OOP and he opened 3x UTG with SUCH a tight PFR range... I can't fold AKs but I think that 3betting here is wrong. I did it cause it's just how I've always played, but I wasn't sure I was doing the right thing considering this guys image. It seems to me like calling and taking a flop is best rather than 3betting. Of course when he 4bets it's the nuts from such a tight player and I should have folded.
B. If I had just called preflop instead of 3betting, how do I handle that flop? It's a good flop for me but the queen kinda sux since it turns one of the pairs that I'm beating into a set or counterfeits my ace vs AQ... but otherwise it's not bad.
C. Considering how it was played (yes poorly) what do you do with that flop? I figured shove was my best choice.
As an end note, YES I KNOW THIS IS HORRIBLE. I was a bit tilty at the time which lead to my call of his 4bet... but once I hit that flop with that big of a pot, I think I'm going all the way.
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2) Villain playing loose @ 35/21/1.4 over 30 hands. How is my line here? I figure I'm 2 overs and a gutter on the flop. The turn puts me open ended. Was this spew or solid?
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| | These are some hands that I feel I definitely misplayed, but am especially curious about the value I missed, cause I think I missed some. I've been playing a bit scared lately and not making as much on my winning hands. I posted these all together cause they have a similar theme and I don't want to spam the shit outta the forum. The hands are in the spoilers. Thanks for any help!
1) Villain playing 15/13/4 and opening like crazy from the button and cutoff. The button was very loose. I thought this was a great spot for a squeeze so I went for it. I've noticed @ NL200 so far that lots of people tend to check the flop acting first after 3betting, especially on these types of 1 high card 2 rag boards, and go for a CRAI, or will lead the turn if there's a check behind. This guy seemed kinda smart so I figured that I'd use that line on him to represent a bigger hand. When the Q came on the turn I kept up with that line making the bet but also being on a semi-bluff. I expected to take it down right there and was surprised that he called.
Here's the main question - How do I bet this river? Did I miss value here by shoving?
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2) Villain playing 34/26/2.6 over 23 hands and no other info. Did I miss value here? I checked the turn figuring that a bare J would fold to a bet and that if a flush hit on the river I'd have a good chance to get paid off. Maybe I should have bet smaller there to look like a scared attempt to represent the A, which may keep a jack in the running and probably induces a flush draw to come along. On the river, I didn't think anything other than another A would call more than a pot sized bet... was that a good sized river Bet?
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3) Villain 37/15/1 over 90 hands. He'd been calling a LOT of my PFR and was also being a bit of a station postflop. At this point I had him on a flush draw that didn't make it. He had a high bet river percentage so I thought checking the river might induce a bluff from a missed flush. Should I have just bet for value or is checking good here? He may have been on a J or 6 or a 5 too and I might get a call from those hands... and 78 just got there and beat me...not sure what the best move was.
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4) Villain playing 19/9.5/1/3 over 135 hands. I really wasn't thinking very much here. I guess I felt that since I had a boat I could allow him to draw at the flush free. I also thought that checking would encourage a bigger pocket pair to call a river bet. Maybe I was right but made the river bet too big? Overall not sure about my entire line... =
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Overall this month has been good in regards to NL100. I feel really confident in that limit and have done very consistently well. I am determined to be playing consistent winning poker @ NL200 in February the way I am doing it in NL100 right now. Let's close with a month summary up to this point:
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Awww, I know you will eventually get there. You always take some time to learn new stuff and once you get it, you are good at it.
now..wad the heck? wad am i doing here in a poker forum?  |
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whamm! Albania. Jan 24 2008 16:39. Posts 11625 | | |
good job man. that's usually like a baptism of fire whem moving up stakes. keep playing that limit and adapt to bet sizes and patterns of players there in general and im sure you'll be doing well there. good luck. |
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k2o4 United States. Jan 24 2008 17:58. Posts 4803 | | |
| | On January 24 2008 15:39 whamm! wrote:
good job man. that's usually like a baptism of fire whem moving up stakes. keep playing that limit and adapt to bet sizes and patterns of players there in general and im sure you'll be doing well there. good luck. |
yeah, totally by fire =) Things are starting to click a bit more. I decided to just avoid 3bet/4bet wars for now cause I don't get them enough to do it profitably. Once I can win consistently while avoiding that area, I'll start focusing on adding that shit to my game. |
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