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BeMannerPenner   . Sep 25 2007 02:34. Posts 1030
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really thinking about quitting poker.

after my 15 buyin in few k hand downswing that kicked me from nl100 i cant win anymore.

after ~40k hands that i playd now on nl25 again i can really say i jsut cant win.


i mean my stats are ok, the pla<x>yers i lose against are horrible and i used to crush these stakes.

well now over 40k hands i barely can get a positive bb/100

i just dont know why. i know im better then 90% of the nl25 pla<x>yers. im not THAT bad. i grinded my way up from 5$ to over 2,5k while cashing out around 2k on the way up.dropped 1,5k in like 15k hands in the worst downswing ive ever seen.playd nl25. now i barely have enough to even play nl25(and i will NEVER EVER again drop down below that..). ofc i did cash out quite some cause i needed some quick money for some deals . but im almost broke online and dont plan to ever deposit.

i tried evrything from switching my rather aggressive game (~25/22)to more conservative stuff.
last 10k hands i playd 17/14/2,7 (even 54% won@shdwn )which resulted in amazing +1,7bb/100. with the loss of the great 100 hand session just now again breakeven.

i mean is it even possible to lose money/run breakeven at nl25 with such stats? with horrible nits and total donkfishes left and right how can i not win money playing totally basic abc poker(instead of the more fancy st<x>yle i used when i crushed nl50 and nl100 at the beginning)

i jsut dont understand it. maybe i was just running amazingly hot for 300k hands and i dont know shit about poker. maybe im on a sick long bullshit swing.maybe im wrong and all these 70/5, 80/50 ,11/3 morons are way better then me.maybe the pokergod doesnt want me to play anymore. i dont know.

well if i have some more of these nice 100hands = -2buyin im broke and if no 1 wants to stake me(and why should anyone after not beeing able to make proft at nl25 for 40k hands...) or gimme free money for beeing the amazing guy i am im done with poker.


ya i know just another boring and stupid "zomg im losing!" post but well...

ps. if some read really till the end and has money on ps iwould like to transfer the ~70$ i have rotting on ftp for agesto stars. so if sum1 wants to help me out on that pls pm me. (ofc trusted member pls and i send 1st). because ftp is obv rigged against me(iirc i lost 200$ of my 250$ test deposit with aces which had amazing 23% win and ~ -210$ over 10k hands)

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PplusAD   Germany. Sep 25 2007 02:56. Posts 7180

Hm i know how you feel. I felt the same many times

I was to quit poker at the beginnig of the month but took a free 50$ Partypoker promo and finally after about 10 month of running like shit i run somehow close to what the percentages of my hands should be.

You have to understand that luck in poker is a far bigger factor then skill in the shortterm ... and when i mean shortterm this goes from 1 hand to maybe even 50 K hands.


 
maybe i was just running amazingly hot for 300k hands and i dont know shit about poker. maybe im on a sick long bullshit swing.maybe im wrong and all these 70/5, 80/50 ,11/3 morons are way better then me.maybe the pokergod doesnt want me to play anymore. i dont know.



this where exactly my thoughts when i lost 32 buy ins in a row ...

But fact is most of the Nl25 guys are either total nits FR players or complete donks at SH tables.
And you will beat them in the longrun if you just stay focused and tight.
Even the NL50 players are not too good either from what i ve seen in my last 4K hands ( i did 9 BB/100 at Party )

Keep it up


As long as you dont give up you can still win !


ANd PS : nothing wrong with a small cash in ....

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Sep 25 2007 03:19. Posts 5647

hmm.. you can win I'm sure, but look over your past blog posts, you don't exactly see poker in a positive light...

I dare you to write something positive about poker.

try dropping drop down a level, no shame in that. have a winning session and get your confidence back.

 Last edit: 25/09/2007 03:19

Royal_Rumble   Germany. Sep 25 2007 03:25. Posts 1760

welcome the variance lol.

money won is twice as sweet as money earned.  

PplusAD   Germany. Sep 25 2007 03:27. Posts 7180

Id prefer cashing in to be able to continue grinding NL25 over dropping down to Nl10 to be honest.

I mean he is used to NL100
Playing NL10 will probably fuck up his mind ^^

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

seatown12   United States. Sep 25 2007 03:45. Posts 1193

should definitely cash in if you can, I am going through the same thing and it is impossible to care about $25 and that level on Stars tilted the shit out of me because of how nitty everyone is, get up to 50nl u will feel much better and the play will be more what your used to it will make it a lot easier, no shame in cashing back in some its not like your losing over your lifetime, cashouts and a bad run can fuck over anyone

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Baalim   Mexico. Sep 25 2007 03:53. Posts 34246

post stats

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Loco   Canada. Sep 25 2007 04:42. Posts 20963

that sucks

im having the worst month of my life as well pokerwise

i can help you with the transfer if you want, my ftp name is Quarantine51

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

anon   Lithuania. Sep 25 2007 04:54. Posts 5965

Don't give up that easily, i have lost 2/3 of my br this month, however things are improving since i started winning again, so you should never give up after 1 bad run, it's just a variance

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BeMannerPenner   . Sep 25 2007 05:02. Posts 1030

thank you all for the comments. will continue to play underrolled nl25 because i really really cant stand playing nl10. but yeah maybe if i really go busto i will put some money in after a while.

@Silver)Z(

well i started this blog when i started to run bad. and since then i hadnt much positive time at poker. dont get me wrong when i play its still fun. but after the first suckouts and when i see my money going to retards my mood changes quite fast.

@Loco

thank you. will contact you as soon as i remember my ftp pass ~

@Baal

mainstats are in the post but ill write down all.(very limited hands tho since i fucked over my old database some weeks ago so this only has like 15kish hands in it)

here we go:

vpip 18,2
vpip sb 23,3
folded to steal sb&bb ~82
steal att. 25
w$wsf 34
went to shdwn 22
won @ shdwn 53,5
pfr 15
pf agg 2,36
flop agg 4,35
turn agg 2,3
river agg 2,5
total agg 2,8

rather nitty i know. but as said changed styles and now i really dont think i have the confidence or the br to play my old style.still i just now noticed how horrible tight i play atm...

btw just noticed AK(s) is a losing hand for me >.<
edit:wtf ak is even one of the biggest losers for me avg/hand wise..

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TianYuan    Korea (South). Sep 25 2007 05:24. Posts 6817

Define underrollled plz..

If it's significantly so, I'd strongly - STRONGLY - urge you to drop down. Even if you are capable of crushing those stakes (which you probably are) you probably won't, given the mental state you are in.

Yes, playing NL10 FUCKING SUCKS, I hate that level sooooooooooo much, but you need confidence to play poker. Your stats look great, maybe the won when seen flop number is a little low but I dunno, stats don't matter that much tho.. Maybe there's something you are doing wrong, maybe caused by changing things just cause you are running bad.

By the way, QQ is/was one of my top 3 losers over more than 30k hands, probably more like 40 (it might still be actually, in which case it's one of my biggest losers over nearly 60k hands). And for the entire month of august I was essentially running breakeven/losing at NL100 so I know how much it sucks and I know that at least I don't play my best game when on such lifetilt.

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PplusAD   Germany. Sep 25 2007 05:50. Posts 7180

I agree playing too underrolled is not a good idea !
you should have at least 12buy ins for Nl25 with anything below 10 buy ins you will most likley get broke by variance no matter how much you normally crush the limit.

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

wolfheart   Estonia. Sep 25 2007 06:33. Posts 7592

i have had all .. what u have had ..those wigs losses wins ..going busto numerous time ..yes its hard to go 10nl then u have played 25nl all the time same with 100nl going down 2 limits... and u ask how long its gonna go when u on bad run ... u just play for that those bright days will be ahead... hard times makes u better and stronger poker player

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locoo   Peru. Sep 25 2007 09:23. Posts 4561

I would really suggest joining a rb site since the rb gives you back everything and more that you lose cuz of variance, its the ultimate tool if you play a lot like me :}

not just about cash, but also motivates you to not get depressed cuz of variance.

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Highcard   Canada. Sep 25 2007 09:26. Posts 5428

Rakeback is key however a $1.5k downswing at $100nl...I had 1 session at $100nl where I lost $1400 in like 3.5k hands. Poker is full of variance, just part of the game.

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