Best ongame skin?

Ongame is currently split between two networks. Ongame 2 being the superior one. Bwin, betsson, betfair and betsafe is part of Ongame 2. From what I hear, party at ongame is pretty much over since bwin and betfair is leaving the network. Those two are pretty much biggest skin on ongame.

uhm, where is betfair going ? : o

ipoker

ah ^^

OMG THANK LEE JONES that sounds amazing

betfair is not moving to ipoker, they're just opening up with ipoker in spain and italy, markets they didn't offer poker in prior.

http://pokerfuse.com/features/editorial-opinion/ongame-2-fact-or-fiction/ semi relevant reading

idk what sort of games ongame and ipoker have at w/e games doomer is playing but in my experience, ongame is a quality network with low volume but fun plo games where the reward structure favours donating players and punishes winning regs, whereas ipoker is a wasteland of ssing and extreme bumhunting where the reward structure favours mass rake generating grinders.

^ interesting read, what do you think about this http://pokercollusion.blogspot.co.uk/

betfair or betsafe for sure

On October 24 2012 15:09 eestwood wrote: ^ interesting read, what do you think about this http://pokercollusion.blogspot.co.uk/

sounds like a website put together by a disgruntled gambler who lost more than he could comfortably afford on ongame, and now wants to launch some sort of righteous crusade so he can feel better about his own mistakes by shifting the blame to the evil ongame. I've seen plenty examples of that in my time and even been accused of being 'in on it' numerous times.

It's a mixture of half truths, obvious statements about standard ways of how any online gambling business is run but presented in a way that seems shocking or scandalous, some logical fallacies (sites want everyone to break even, not lose quickly like he claims) and some wild leaps of logic (things like AP scandal have happened before so it must be the norm for all businesses to operate unethically!).

That said, some of what he's trying to communicate is true, that if a "fish" deposits and starts playing he will lose eventually, and if he's playing for what is any appreciable amount of money in the real world (even 50nl+) the chances are good that the "fish" will lose incredibly quickly with extremely slim odds of going on a heater, simply due to the massive amount of more "serious" players in the games nowadays who have invested time in learning a strategy that somewhat vaguely approaches fundamental solidness, but is lightyears ahead of how casual "fish" like to play. It's understandable from the position of the fish after observing how slim their chances are and how quickly they get smashed on a table with 5 regs that they conclude something below board must be happening for their chances to be that slim, but the truth is it's very very easy for this to happen if you're outmatched in skill edge, and fish losing fast consistently isn't close to any indication below-board things must be occurring.

fair enough. That blog content looked kinda disturbing to me at the first glance considering somebody must have spent lots of time putting that stuff together, but your version seems more likely to be closer to reality..

When somebody is telling me some online poker room is rigged, I am always struggling to find the incentive for them to manipulate the games and risk huge scandal, when they are already making solid steady amount of $$ from rake

Are you sure there is a ongame 1 and ongame 2?? You are not confusing yourself with iPoker (ipoker1 and ipoker2) or Microgaming that have ringed in games for certain sites?