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Golad update inspired by nloser60 by Cooper83, July 15


[]not run like shit


...........only 18 buyins under expected this month great start.


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goals update by nlloser60, July 14


[] Lifetime goal: Run like artanis in flips
[] Lifetime goal2: Play like djforever on 6max
[] Lifetime goal3: Play HUs like Fayth
[] Goal for 2009: NL200 till the end of 2009
[] Goal2 for 2009: Make 200k vpps and buy 2k milestone
[] Goal for june: try to be break even and [ x ]make 50k fpps which I need to buy June 2,4k instant cash bonus (down like 1k already ).

1 failed, 1 done, rest not even close to complete, ty.


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ugh by Zalfor, July 14


down 4 BI in 3 Days... going to take a break for a bit...


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Underground Poker by k2o4, July 14


I just talked with a friend of mine from HS and he's got the info on a handful of underground poker games. I don't think any of them are literally underground... unless they're hosted in someones basement (har har... ok no more bad jokes). But I was just expecting some home games that were consistent but it sounds like a full out Boiler Room type of operation. They've got dealers, waiters, food, drink, rake, etc. I wonder if there will be a steel door like at Teddy KGB's place.

I definitely wanna play more live poker but I wonder if this is a good idea. Concerns:

1) I have no idea how illegal this is, but I assume it is illegal. I figure if it's just some random home game it's really unlikely that cops would come, and if they did it would be easy to get out of. But since this is a type of casino set up I have a feeling I might actually be taking a slight risk. Probably not a huge one, but hell what do I know.

2) Rake. I have no idea what is fair rake or how to follow that shit. In Vegas it was a total mystery to me. I don't want to be getting myself into a situation where I will get rake raped. What should I be looking for?

3) I don't think this is a huge concern, but I feel like my risk of being robbed will hit its peak if I go to one of these places. I've never really worried about it before cause I mostly play online and the live games have either been at real casino's or home games with friends. But this will basically be me by myself with a bunch of people I don't know at a location that is probably pretty poorly protected. Luckily it's in Boulder CO so that reduces the risk cause people around here just aren't criminals very often, but I think this is probably the type of crowd/situation that would attract the few that we do have. I am probably worrying too much about this though as it's really unlikely. I guess I will actually have to watch the dealer for once to make sure he's legit.

4) I wonder, will the quality of play actually be good here? Home games are always filled with donks, but this sounds a bit more serious. I dunno if it will still be full of fish. Probably, but I wonder.

Despite these worries I'm definitely gonna go. There's a smaller NL100 game that I will check out first. If that goes well I'll try the NL200 game. If that goes well I'll try the NL300 game. I don't know if there's anything higher than that around here right now.

Any advice is much appreciated!


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Going to.. VEGAS! by BalloonFight, July 14


So cashed out a little and am going to vegas for a week. Going to leave on thursday and arrive on thursday night. Partly to attend Evolution (big ass fighting game tournament) but mainly to just have a vacation with friends. Probably will be playing some poker as well.

Hopefully I'll run into some LPers. Cheers~


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Live strategy by DustySwedeDude, July 14


So yea, I'd like to be more comfortable with my live game. I came up with a plan. Everytime anyone tries to talk to me about anything remotely related to poker, hands or whatever I'll try to quote Ash from Evil Dead/Army of Darkness, because after all, is there anyone even remotely as bad-ass as him? Here's a couple of examples from imdb:

"Well hello Mister Fancypants. Well, I've got news for you pal, you ain't leadin' but two things, right now: Jack and shit... and Jack left town."

"Come get some"

"Hail to the king, baby"

"Honey, you got reeeal ugly!"

"Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun. " (maybe change the gun to the chips or whatever and Good/bad to Aces/Air)

When I think about it sounds so incredible stupid though. How can that be?

Havn't played much last few day. Breakevenish today due to faggot (aka TAG-reg) sucking out with A8s vs Ako on 10/20. Been watching a ton of MTT-vids and I feel I've learned a few things. Played some limit on FTP too. Pretty fun, but really swingy.


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lost my mojo by auffenpuffer, July 14


fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

down on like 60k hands. Not because I would be running so bad (partly that too tho) but because I just play so fucking bad. Unreal how fucking terrible I can be. I mean its like I'm on megatilt all the time. god. I know very well that Iam just doing monkey crap and so on but my play seems just out of control. Well cashed out 2,6k and forgot about moving to nl200, I think I'll have a break and then utilize the "myth-method" of starting from nl10 and then not moving up untill I have made 10 buyins on each level.

Other than that, life is probably better than ever. Its summer (which after finnish winter is so awesome), and I was just accepted to study economic- and socialhistory, which is even more awesome. For most readers its probably sounds silly that I'm so happy about starting my studies, but finnish university system is quite unlike US or France or whatever: studying doesnt cost anything, and one has to qualify throught a selection exam. 2,5 months of studying (i now know the table of contents of "human web: a bird eye view of history" by heart) luckily did pay off, and I was well in the top 12% accepted in

but yeah, definately time to get my shit together

oh and if someone (preferably > nl50 user) wants to talk pokers and so on feel free to add risto98 (at) hotmail.com


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two plo hands - blockers. by Adaptation, July 14


***** Hand History for Game 13391711024 ***** (Full Tilt)
$25.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, July 14, 04:20:20 ET 2009
Table Delhi (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Tempos84 ( $37.08 USD )
Seat 2: Justin Bosche ( $26.67 USD )
Seat 3: Buck History ( $26.12 USD )
Seat 4: itsNugen ( $24.93 USD )
Seat 5: catfish28 ( $21.72 USD )
Seat 6: omg_you_suck777 ( $35.80 USD )
catfish28 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
omg_you_suck777 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to itsNugen [ 8d Kc 4s Kd ]
Tempos84 folds
Justin Bosche folds
Buck History folds
itsNugen raises [$0.85 USD]
catfish28 calls [$0.75 USD]
omg_you_suck777 calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 3d, 9s ]
catfish28 checks
omg_you_suck777 checks
itsNugen bets [$1.25 USD]
catfish28 folds
omg_you_suck777 calls [$1.25 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
omg_you_suck777 checks
itsNugen bets [$5.05 USD]
omg_you_suck777 calls [$5.05 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
omg_you_suck777 bets [$7.57 USD]
itsNugen calls [$7.57 USD]
omg_you_suck777 shows [Tc, 9d Qs Ad ]
itsNugen shows [8d, Kc 4s Kd ]
itsNugen wins $28.78 USD from main pot
My reasoning here was this could easily be a busted flush draw, and if he had a straight, it would have been a very well hidden straight, hence he would have bet more for value. But i also had two blockers for a straight, making it less likely to have a straight. He indeed had a busted flush draw. Opponent himself was a 55/8/1.6 but only over 88 hands.


Second hand

***** Hand History for Game 13391905474 ***** (Full Tilt)
$25.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, July 14, 04:29:34 ET 2009
Table DePaul (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: gynni ( $23.55 USD )
Seat 2: itsNugen ( $28.33 USD )
Seat 3: i_smack_u ( $10.55 USD )
Seat 4: The Feed ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: gullfrisk68 ( $18.46 USD )
Seat 6: EzRGood ( $45.45 USD )
EzRGood posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
gynni posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to itsNugen [ 2h Ks Kd Jd ]
itsNugen calls [$0.25 USD]
i_smack_u folds
The Feed folds
gullfrisk68 folds
EzRGood raises [$0.90 USD]
gynni calls [$0.75 USD]
itsNugen calls [$0.75 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Kc, 3h ]
EzRGood checks
gynni checks
itsNugen bets [$1.50 USD]
EzRGood calls [$1.50 USD]
gynni calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
EzRGood checks
gynni checks
itsNugen bets [$4.00 USD]
EzRGood calls [$4.00 USD]
gynni folds
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
EzRGood bets [$15.50 USD]
itsNugen calls [$15.50 USD]
EzRGood shows [9c, 7h 8s 6h ]
EzRGood wins $44.18 USD from main pot
itsNugen doesn't show [2h, Ks Kd Jd ]

A horrible call by me on the river. This hand happened about 5 minute after the first, so i really didn't think it through - first i have 0 blockers, and so theres more straights in his range. Second, he bets the entire pot - making it look a lot more like value(especially considering i probably have a strong hand). His stats were the same as the first player - but bet sizing and BLOCKERS made a difference here.

All in all, i learned my lesson. I still finished up a buyin, but could have been 2....







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<3 the $2.2 180s by Chobo1, July 14


played 48 $2.2 180 man turbos today. took 1st place 3 times and 2nd place once.

BALLIN' ! LOL

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Looking to transfer FTP to Stars by egood, July 14


Looking to move about 1k to stars from ftp. pm me if interested.


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Xfer for My FTP for Your AP $$ by Seobombisgay, July 14


1k-2k and will send first to known members.


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oh noes HEM by k2o4, July 14


For some reason my HEM got all funky yesterday. It kinda self shrunk... now I can open it and it goes to the systray in the bottom right, and I click that and nothing pops up on the screen but it is in the bar on the bottom of my screen. I have to right click that and choose "maximize" and it will appear again. If I try and get it to a size where I can resize it, then it disappears. Any ideas on how to fix it?


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survived another drunk session by collegesucks, July 14


http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/bdf69d8c6680f588983b407e63a04f1a.png

and then near the end of the session, when i was kind of sobering up, i ended up with this funny little convo. and it all started with this hand, played by a reg (smartfab) and the resident fish at the table:

Submitted by : collegesucks

PokerStars Game #30445174013: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/07/14 7:12:37 ET
Table Kniertje II 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Tosmatic ($115.85 in chips)
Seat 2: SmartFAB ($100 in chips)
Seat 3: lordvali ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($268.25 in chips)
Seat 5: MHiggy32 ($115.85 in chips)
Seat 6: ZachShalack4 ($136.95 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.50
MHiggy32: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero Td2h
ZachShalack4: folds
Tosmatic: raises $2 to $3
SmartFAB: calls $3
lordvali: folds
Hero: folds
MHiggy32: calls $2

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $9.50)

   4d8cQd
MHiggy32: checks
Tosmatic: bets $2
SmartFAB: raises $10 to $12
MHiggy32: folds
Tosmatic: raises $12 to $24
SmartFAB: calls $12

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $57.50)

   4d8cQd8s
Tosmatic: checks
SmartFAB: bets $30
Tosmatic: calls $30

River (Pot : $117.50)

   4d8cQd8s2s
Tosmatic: checks
SmartFAB: bets $43 and is all-in
Tosmatic: calls $43

Showdown
SmartFAB: shows Jd7d (a pair of Eights)
Tosmatic: shows AsQc (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Tosmatic collected $200.50 from pot
SmartFAB said, &quot;wow&quot;

Summary
Total pot $203.50 | Rake $3
Board  4d8cQd8s2s
Seat 1: Tosmatic showed AsQc and won ($200.50) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 2: SmartFAB showed Jd7d and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 3: lordvali (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: MHiggy32 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: ZachShalack4 folded before Flop (didnt bet)



he goes on to berate the fish and i try to tell him to shut the fuck up, and the conversation gets reaaallly drawn out:

SmartFAB said, "every re.tard must get rewarded"
Hero said, "lol"
Hero said, "yeah u do that"
Tosmatic said, "thx"
Hero said, "lolool"
Hero said, "reward them"
Hero said, "hahaha"
SmartFAB said, "what a stupid line with aq"
SmartFAB said, "lol"
Hero said, "lol"
Hero said, "well"
Hero said, "idk what to say about ur J7dd line"
SmartFAB said, "why should i check the turn"
SmartFAB said, "donks like him are supposed to fold there "
Hero said, "lol cuz he's not checking after 3betting the flop to fold to ur bet"
SmartFAB said, "lol are u kidding me"
Hero said, "lol im serious"
Hero said, "you really think that he's reraising a hand"
SmartFAB said, "do u see his stats?"
Hero said, "that's just gunna c/f a blank turn?"
SmartFAB said, "lol"
Hero said, "stats?"
Hero said, "ppl use stats?"
Hero said, "like"
Hero said, "hacking tools?"
SmartFAB said, "y"
Hero said, "omg report"
SmartFAB said, "lol"
Hero said, "i wouldn't tell everyone ur"
SmartFAB said, "report me"
SmartFAB said, "its allowed donkey"
Hero said, "using some weird software"
SmartFAB said, "oh donkey"
Hero said, "lol"
SmartFAB said, "in what world do u live"
SmartFAB said, "rofl"
Hero said, "god get a clue"
ZachShalack4 said, "lol its called pokertracker"
Hero said, "lol it's called **** about it"
Hero said, "moron"
ZachShalack4 said, "if ur at NL100 i have no idea how the hell u havent heard of it"
Hero said, "it's called"
Hero said, "shut the ffff up about it"
Hero said, "just to point that out"
mgsimpleton: folds
Hero said, "and don't berate ppl"
Hero said, "who u thinkn are worse than u"
Hero said, "cuz"
lordvali said, "we all do jimbo"
Hero said, "they're just here to have fun"
ZachShalack4 said, "90 % of the people use it"
Hero said, "lol"
Hero said, "OMG IM IN A TABLE FULL OF ******S"
Hero said, "DOES IT NOT OCCUR TO U"
Hero said, "THAT ONE PERSON"
Hero said, "IN THIS FCKIN TABLE"
Hero said, "MIGHT NOT USE IT"
Hero said, "O M F G TILT"
ZachShalack4 said, "cuz ur ******ed lol"
ZachShalack4 said, "and get to see like 1000x less info then ido"
Hero said, "sigh..."
ZachShalack4 said, "i know you play 23% of hands outsides of the blinds"
Hero said, "lol"
Hero said, "dude"
ZachShalack4 said, "youve folded to 3 of 4 3-bets pre flop"
Hero said, "u're clueless"
Hero said, "just be silent"
Hero said, "don't let the fish come to the realization that u have an edge... although i doubt u've got much of an edge anyways"
ZachShalack4 said, "i own your soul"
Hero said, "okay?"
Hero said, "lol"
ZachShalack4 said, "go cry about it"
Hero said, "lololol"
Hero said, "im surrounded by morons"
ZachShalack4 said, "u won 1 pot with TPTK and apparently u now think ur any good"
Hero said, "lol"
ZachShalack4 said, "enjoy your 1 buy in and GTFO"
ZachShalack4 said, "i will eat ur heart out"

i realized early on that the fish in the table might get all uncomfortable if we started talking in pokerspeak, so i tried to cover it up, and massively failed. i didn't want people who were unaware of pokertracker to know about it, so i tried to make it sound like a joke or whatever, but yeah... i did fail pretty badly. eventually i realized that the regs i was trying to get to shut up might have been better served if they didn't realize i knew what i was doing. by the end of the convo the stupidity in the table got me on severe tilt (on top of drunken tilt) and i was forced to quit all my tables.

i don't think i should play drunk anymore.


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herm some hands by jasper5408, July 14


as always any comments/suggestions more than welcome

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/717194 <-- villain saw a lag video, and now thinks he's a pro, had fun taking alot of his monies. the plan on this hand was to 3 bet for him to call and shove any flop. i'm pretty happy with my play here but my raise pre may have been a bit to low (but i really wanted him to call)

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/717186 <--a bit more tricky. 3 bet pot, so i figure AK and pairs are most of his range. i never thought he could call with lower Qx in a 100 years. does that make my play here bad? i think he raises me with TT JJ to see where he's at (cause i've seen him do this play although not in a 3 bet pot). AK hearts, sets and possible over pairs are the majority of his range. I figure flush draws are commited, TT JJ will fold out (but the pot's so big already), AA KK and sets will call. i mainly shoved because i didn't like the idea of the flush completing and me being in a shitthole spot, nor did i like the idea of a flush card missing and him possibly getting away from the hand.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/717183 <-- not really sure about my play here, and thoughts? pros/cons?


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Hollywood and Vegas by remember87, July 14


America is like so cool! I love every second of it! Its superhot, always 100% sunny, wonderful beaches, lovely cities and nice people! Since I arrived here I havnt been still a single second and I wouldnt want that to change a bit!

The first day we decided to visit Universal Studios since it would only be 32'C and maybe 2 cloudes on the sky. It was awesome! Pretty cool to see all the studios etc. Especially waterworld was a really good show they had put up.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/98ecbf413845c85ea866c55fe6b2555f.jpg
my little travel company.. me the third person from the left..

The day after that it was beach time, so we moved to a hotel in Santa Monica and went on the beaches there.. they are just so biiig and long! it was really fun to go swiming too since the ocean had a perfect temperature and it was a lot of big waves etc.. Ofc you have to end that with som UFC and a big buffé to become a perfect day!

Yesterday we moved to Hollywood and did all the touristy things you can do there. Walk down the walk of fame, take a tour to see the celebrities houses, take photos of the sign, see some celebrities (most famous Jay Leno) and buy some souvernirs etc. Pretty fun to do ones but I dont think there is much point doing again if you dont wanna really go ballin and spend lots of money on clubs etc.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/4929d128b0ac0d00247a23b901c3c719.jpg
me with a celebrity I cant remember the name of ... help?

This morning we rented a car and went on a small roadtrip. Stopped at a couple of places (like newport beach) and finally ended up in San Diego. I must say I love this "little" town (bigger then Stockholm, but compared to LA we came from) and even a city I could imagine myself living in. Very pretty!

http://www.liquidpoker.net/user_pictures/5ff76c193e23cdac90555e0aad871312.jpg
a very lame photo with the beautiful city in the background..

So far, the trip has been perfect, and the best thing is that the best parts of the trip hasnt come yet! Thats Vegas(!) and the plan is that we will arrive there either tomorrow night or the day after that in the morning.. I will be sooo sick! I have longed for this day now for a long time and now it finally will happen!!
We are planning on staying at Bellagio atleast one night (it will be fun to see Bobbys room), and in some other hotel 2-3 nights, depending on a lot of things. Any recommendations? It would be fun to see a lot of different stuff when we´re finally here.
Except from poker I must visit a show too somewhere, havnt the slightest idea of whats running out there but I guess there are brochures on the hotels.

Hope to see some of you guys in Vegas the next few days!

Cheers!


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Posters Wanted by mrpav.com, July 14


Hi everyone, wanted to get some more posters at http://www.pokermuscle.com so the site can have more content so i'm looking for 5 people to post on the site. You would need to post 500 times on the site, start a minimum of 50 threads. Posts need to be minimum of 20-30 words. No time frame to complete, so take all the time you need. Payment would be done through pokerstars, after your 500 post is complete. Willing to pay 5 people $20 for 500 posts, anyone interested?


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how would you have played this? by biabiaflexer, July 13


so im in this tourney and i've been running pretty nice, i've only shown big hands....through 55 hands i just stacked someone to become tourney leader, im running about 25 15 3.0

check out my stack size, check out villains stack size, and check out the blinds before commenting

id like some more perspectives on how i should have played this

Submitted by : biabiaflexer

PokerStars Game #30434839471: Tournament #178358157, $150+$12 Holdem No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2009/07/13 21:54:43 ET
Table 178358157 58 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: bastet2004 (3705 in chips)
Seat 2: modaddy (6090 in chips)
Seat 3: jakoon1985 (2440 in chips)
Seat 4: biabiaflexer (14140 in chips)
Seat 5: TyPe_SH (2696 in chips)
Seat 6: MISHELA (5080 in chips)
Seat 7: mkiebler (2690 in chips)
Seat 8: melissa2141 (2970 in chips)
Seat 9: florzinha999 (3000 in chips)
jakoon1985: posts small blind 50
biabiaflexer: posts big blind 100

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to biabiaflexer ThQh
TyPe_SH: raises 200 to 300
MISHELA: folds
mkiebler: folds
melissa2141: folds
florzinha999: folds
bastet2004: folds
modaddy: folds
jakoon1985: folds
biabiaflexer: calls 200

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $650.00)

   9hTd6s
biabiaflexer: checks
TyPe_SH: bets 500
biabiaflexer: raises 2500 to 3000
TyPe_SH: calls 1896 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (604) returned to biabiaflexer

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $5,442.00)

   9hTd6sKh

River (Pot : $5,442.00)

   9hTd6sKh3s

Showdown
biabiaflexer: shows ThQh (a pair of Tens)
TyPe_SH: shows AdAh (a pair of Aces)
TyPe_SH collected 5442 from pot

Summary
Total pot 5442 | Rake 0
Board  9hTd6sKh3s
Seat 1: bastet2004 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: modaddy (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: jakoon1985 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: biabiaflexer (big blind) showed ThQh and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: TyPe_SH showed AdAh and won (5442) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: MISHELA folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 7: mkiebler folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 8: melissa2141 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 9: florzinha999 folded before Flop (didnt bet)




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Need to swap money from ftp to ps by FullBRing, July 13


Hy, need to transfer 5K from ftp to ps. Can do it by increments. Plz send me a pm. Only well known poster plz


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Operation - Get My Grind On by Svenman87, July 13


Well pretty much starting from scraps here. College in a month, need to start making money to make the payments.
Also have a job set up down there at a bank for 20hours/week.

Lets do this LP ^______________^


btw the 4th and the past weekend was fucking siiiiiiiiiiiiick


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Better be winning by k2o4, July 13


I've been grinding a lot since coming home and I think I've been playing really well. The live sessions in Vegas actually taught me a lot about exploiting fish and gave me practice at creative thinking which has allowed me to take some new lines, make more bluffs, and value bet better. Overall I feel like I'm playing really well with lots of patience and emotional discipline.

I know I've had at least 1 losing session since I came back but I think the rest were break even or winning. I dunno cause I'm still not checking results. That's also why I haven't posted a end month results blog in ages, cause if I'm really playing for the long term a single session, week, even month is just a small part of it all. I think yearly results make a bit more sense to pay serious attention to, or monthly results if you're playing 100k+ hands a month. This also helps me to approach wins and losses with the same mindset. I don't think huge highs from wins and gigantic lows from loses is a healthy way to live, cause while the highs are awesome the lows are devastating. If I can approach the entire game as a long term investment and just focus on how I played then I can be happy all the time as long as I keep playing well. Letting my happiness get tied into how my bankroll is looking always caused me more pain and suffering than joy.


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