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HU PLO makes me cringe so hard by ManofFire, April 08


My god - I swear I can never win a coinflip...

I'm about 65 tournament BI lifetime under EV in this game and so far am only up like 15$ from playing this game +_+
The only good news is that on the other side of the spectrum I'm like 25 over EV for HE.

I must go dunk my head in my tears because whenever I try moving up with PLO I just get hit by the gayest nonsense in the world over and over again.


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stats -> leaks? by D4imLeR, April 07


See any leaks? Have good advice?

http://imgur.com/kKU9L.jpg

http://imgur.com/74mIa.jpg


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HELP for PS players by ChrisKim47, April 06


So i just moved my roll to PS, i set my seating position to bottom left for all tables. It is not syncing up with my HEM hud. Player stats are showing up in different spots on different tables

Any thoughts?


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Looking for a stake by KeanuReaver, April 06


Going to try to make this as professional as possible, I am looking for a stake for the NL100-NL200 games on PokerStars. About 6 months ago I more or less entirely stopped playing online poker, I was a little burnt out and mostly just wanted to explore living poker free. I withdrew my role, took a couple of vacations, moved to Las Vegas, and basically just relaxed. Unfortunately, if poker has taught me anything, it's that I hate to waste free time. Lately, despite joining xtreme couture, I've found myself with a lot of free time and not a lot of ways to fill it, and thus my itch for poker has come back. I've decided I'd rather take a stake rather than deposit a meager amount to build up through micro's for two reasons. First, I feel it's a colossal waste of time and energy; micro's aren't the super easy quick stop they were even just a year ago and that combined with rake means I'd be spending far more time there then I'd like. Second, and more importantly, I am in the process of buying a condo in vegas. Nothing special, just a small condo to not waste money on rent. My realtor has told me that it's necessary to build up my bank account well and not have random unexplained purchases or withdrawls as those look bad to mortgage bankers.

What you can expect from me

*I am, and always have been, a very solid winner at NL100 and NL200. I'm certainly no rakeback pro.
*I have very consistent volume. I don't handle a bunch of tables very well and I found out very quick I simply can't endure the long hours of reaching supernova elite. What I can do is 50k hands a month, with all of them me being on my A game.
*Updates as you see fit. I was staked once before for a significant sum of money by someone on the site (won't name him out of respect) and I didn't update as much as he would have liked. It was a learning experience for me and I came to the realization that no matter what happens, so long as I let my backer know in a timely and forthright manner the situation will be resolved.

What you won't get from me

*Most importantly by far, I am not a tilt monkey. I have endured swings that many poker players only see in their nightmares, if you ptr me you will see a sudden dip around august of 09', that corresponds to a swing in which I ran 130 buyins below EV. What you won't see there is sudden jumps in my graph, I do not chase losses or play above my roll. You'll also notice I was able to work out of it.

What I expect of you

*I expect someone that will be willing to keep me in the games. As I mentioned before, I have endured some pretty awful swings and I know just how easy it is to lose huge chunks of your roll seemingly out of nowhere. I want a backer that will see this for what it is, and will help me to fight through it by keeping me in the games.



As I stated before, I was staked once before. The stake started out rough but my backer stuck with me and I was able to turn him a $10k profit after about 5 months of playing. I don't want to out who it was but if it's necessary to know I can talk to him and see if he's ok with discussing it.

Unfortunately, I reformatted my computer just a few days ago and I don't have my software right now. If you want to see how I perform at the games check my ptr, my sn is the same as it is here: KeanuReaver. Others that I have played with on this site can also attest to my skill as a player, I'm certainly not great by any means but I'm a creative, thinking, strategically sound player. If you're interested in staking me, please send me a pm.


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Moar Unreal Goodness by NewbSaibot, April 06


I love these little tech demos, because they show what can be done in real time, and what you can experience rather than simply watch.








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Back to Blogging by The M Show, April 06


I havent been blogging at over the last few months. Mainly because I havent been playing a lot of poker because I have been busy with school and other real life things lol. But now that I just about done school I have a lot more time to put towards poker after this month.

I switched to iPoker a while back because of a sick rakeback deal that I got with them. It works out to be about 55% RB which is incredible for me considering I only play 20nl - 100nl fullring. Its a nice bit of motivation to put in large volume knowing that the payback will be huge. The software is a bit tilting when multi tabling since it lags my computer a bit but it is bearable lol.

Im digging through my database looking for hands that gave me trouble. Ive found one so far but will be adding more. Really appreciate the help and feedback guys. (Hands are fullring)

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[Q] Depositing money via Instant echecks by billy5000, April 06


So I've been trying to deposit money to pokerstars, but I'm afraid of the reaction that I'll receive from my parents when they see that I'm gambling online.

I tried to find an alternative way such as using a prepaid debit card, but unfortunately pokerstars doesn't accept them.

Now all I'm left is by depositing money by using instant echecks. My question is (I've never used an instant echeck before): will this leave a sign of where I deposited the money under my bank account?




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Moving Bankroll from FTP by ChrisKim47, April 05


Gonna move my bankroll from FTP to possibly absolute, or somewhere else US players can play. Let me know if you can transfer up to 4k. I have transferred no prob with BoreHM on this website no prob if you scared of me. Let me know if anyone can help.

Thanks a bunch.


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2nl ten-table by Gnarly, April 05




Small sample, but I can't help but notice that $1.50 deficit. I'm running at 9/7, and am thinking that loosening up can help the red line.


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need FTP to stars xfer by Into Infinity, April 05


FTP doesn't want my rake money anymore so i need to trade. anyone interested, send me a PM.

my $950 on FTP for your $950 on stars.


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Poker players documentaries by Mortensen8, April 05


I'm looking for more documentaries about poker players I just watched this one about the dang brothers

http://mediocrepokerradio.com/blog/a-day-with-the-dangs/

was pretty fun

the ones I've seen

Stu Ungar
http://www.pokercast.tv/1401-the-rise-and-fall-of-stu-ungar

kid's game
busto to robusto http://robustothemovie.com/

Was wondering if there's any more thx

oh yea kids game is free now http://www.pokerstatic.com/static-tv/a-kids-game-the-story-of-online-poker/

not that good though


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Full Tilt Poker by Zep, April 05





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Full Tilt Poker by dnagardi, April 05


Recently I'm constantly experiencing little lag spikes and even disconnects for 1-2 secs while playing on FTP. And it cannot be my connection since pinging is all fine + its the same on 2 different providers. You got these latency issues too?


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Full Tilt Poker by LsDDeaD, April 05


Hi.
It's kind of double post, cause I've already asked about this problem, but now I've came to the conclusion that, since I've signed up for FTP using the bnous offer there is no chance for me of getting rakeback with this acc.
I don't play huge volume of hands, but the reason to be so persistant in this is the fact that I love rush poker and I play comfortable at 100NL and I feel that even though I'm not putting tens of thousands of hands monthly I'm still losing a good amount of money by not getting rakeback, so I thought about two things - making another account by the name of someone at the family, or asking a friend for this, but I wonder If this won't cause a problem because at the end the IP will remain the same, and even though I'm far from sure that there aren't any better ideas so I'll be glad for ay particular advices concerning this issue.
Thanks
-Leron


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safe porn? by Jun, April 05


Anyone know some 100% safe porn sites? Just got a new computer dont want to screw him up again


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IDK I'm thrown off so ez by Night2o1, April 05


Ugh. Today I woke up to my grandma's shrieks as she was attacked and hit repeatedly by my schizophrenic uncle. By the time I woke and crossed the house he was fleeing to his room. I helped grandma off the floor. Called 911 and the police came and committed my uncle. Grandma seems to be ok, she is bruised up a bit, worst part is she landed on her elbow and shoulder when she fell and badly sprained her shoulder or perhaps minorly fractured her clavicle. She complains it hurts but also feels numb, and she has swelling. The paramedics came along with the police and told her to should go to a walk-in clinic to get it x-rayed, I've tried to convince her, but she hates walk-ins for some reason. She is going to have her fucking chiropractor-acupuncturist x-ray her.. of course he isn't nearly as well trained to spot problems as a real doctor. And I have to drive her up to the guy. I'll fucking explode on this guy if he tries to manipulate her body. If this chiropractard gives her an all-clear/put ice on it and she doesn't improve markedly in the next day or two I'll make sure to take her to a real doctor.. She refuses right now. I'm glad she didn't break a hip or anything more serious.

Now the whole first 2/3rds of the day are used up.. was supposed to goto the gym when I woke up, have to wait around for gmas appointment now.. I guess my situation isn't a big deal but.. god damn it if I could have a fucking normal environment that I controlled I would be able to keep my focus on what I need to accomplish. I hope I can pull this shit together and make some money, I need to live on my own so badly.

I'm so angry (at my uncle slightly(mostly at his illness), at alternative medicine leading my grandma not to seek a real doctor, my grandma's gullibility) and tuned up and I can't do a damn thing about any of it.


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Avoid Losing Sessions!! by Joeingram1, April 05


I've been trying this April to avoid having losing sessions! (good plan right) So far it has gone pretty well as you can see from the screenshot below, but when I do decide to have a losing session, I need to make sure it isn't all my monthly profits

http://imgur.com/IrcrA.jpg



Played about 4k hands each of 2/4 and 1/2 PLO so far this month winning at both. I'm really going to start trying to climb out of my 100plo and 200plo hole on PTR that I am currently in. Have been doing well at 100plo so far this month so hopefully I can accomplish that by the end of this month. I'm down about 100 buyins at 200plo though so that one will be more challenging. I really want to start a new diet this month that I will post in the next few days and try to get some feedback from all you diet/workout pros on liquid for ways to make it best. I'm aiming for 200k hands or 20k profits from the table this month so hopefully can combine that with a new diet for a good all around month.


Heres my biggest losing hand so far this month at 1/2. I think I like leading the flop with pair+gutter+bfd, I don't really think I can ever fold on this flop



Submitted by : Joeingram1

***** Hand History for Game 60297761739 ***** Poker Stars
$200.00 USD PL Omaha - Sunday, April 03, 10:27:51 ET 2011
Table Gudula XII Real Money
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: bogmonsta $267.85 USD
Seat 2: JoeIngram1 $513.70 USD
Seat 3: Beauweevil $498.80 USD
Seat 4: atticus281 $212.40 USD
Seat 5: WestSideChic $545.70 USD
Seat 6: VeryK1nd $845.75 USD
JoeIngram1 posts small blind [$1.00 USD].
Beauweevil posts big blind [$2.00 USD].
bogmonsta posts ante of [$0.40 USD].
JoeIngram1 posts ante of [$0.40 USD].
Beauweevil posts ante of [$0.40 USD].
atticus281 posts ante of [$0.40 USD].
WestSideChic posts ante of [$0.40 USD].
VeryK1nd posts ante of [$0.40 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to JoeIngram1 [Js8d9sTs ]
atticus281 raises [$6.00 USD]
WestSideChic calls [$6.00 USD]
VeryK1nd folds
bogmonsta folds
JoeIngram1 raises [$27.40 USD]
Beauweevil folds
atticus281 raises [$89.60 USD]
WestSideChic calls [$89.60 USD]
JoeIngram1 calls [$67.20 USD]

Flop (Pot : $275.80)

   6s5h8h
JoeIngram1 bets [$187.00 USD]
atticus281 folds
WestSideChic raises [$449.70 USD]
JoeIngram1 calls [$230.70 USD]
WestSideChic wins $32.00 USD

Turn (Pot : $1,111.20)

   6s5h8hAd

River (Pot : $1,111.20)

   6s5h8hAdQd
JoeIngram1 shows Js8d9sTs
WestSideChic shows 7d6h9d7s
WestSideChic wins $1123.60 USD from main pot





Need to start putting in more hours this month but hard when you only play 34 hand sessions lol


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Getting to know rake races: Industry View by HeroPoker-CEO, April 05


When I first started at Hero Poker and surveyed the competitive landscape, I said, 'I don't want to do rake races'. Now at an educated site like LP, everyone knows what a rake race is and I would think that all grinders want one.

SKIN=RAKEBACK=RAKERACE=RIGHT?

So as a skin, it's obvious that I should follow suit and do a rake race right? It would be naive not to, but I didn't want to do a rake race as is.
The problem with any new business situation and with a start-up, there is the temptation to simply do as others do and start from there. After all, why re-invent the wheel. That being said for the poker industry, we have that great divide between the network skins and the stand alone sites. It's not to say that standalone sites that give out rakeback do not do rake races, via their affiliates, but it is not their main promotion, whereas for rakeback skins, it is.

I didn't want to simply rely on both rakeback and rake races and pigeon hole our site as another rakeback site. So it has been a much harder start in that regard as the growth we have is very organic. Our players haven't come on board because we have this month's great race promotion, rather, they continue to play for other reasons.

THE OBVIOUS ANSWER IN BUSINESS IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST
It's always difficult to talk business with players or those who do not have a business background because the first response by those players would be, 'What are you stupid? Do what obviously works, duh.' The problem with that is if everyone is doing what obviously works, how well is it working for getting ahead. No doubt it will keep your company alive for now, but business strategy isn't about keeping your company alive, its about, keeping your company alive and getting ahead.

So as I was beating my head over this entire concept of rake races, which was totally foreign to me as a director at PS. I had to come to grips with reality, that I can't get away from doing some type/form of rake race in the short term, because it is what those on poker communities expect. Until fish start falling from the sky, rakeraces provide a lot of instant value/comfort. Now the 'value of the site' is something I'm dealing with every day and of course includes the entire boutique positioning and community participation; but I've had to face this beast of rake races first and I want to do it on my own terms for the growth of the site.

NO BIG DEAL?
Again, you may be wondering, 'what they hell is the big deal Dave? Do a rake race, people grind, they get money, you get money and everyone is happy'. From a player's perspective, you are absolutely correct. From a CEO's perspective, nothing is that easy. To hit certain revenue targets just using rakeback/rakerace combination I need to hold X amount of rakerace prize pool for at least one and a half months until the promotion is done (so I can't do anything with those funds for that period, just sitting there as the guaranteed payout) and it needs to be significant enough that it is a competitive offering compared to other sites. So lets say the average I want to put up is 25k. I'd say that is a sufficient amount to pique most grinder's interests, but lets say 40k per affiliate site I have because I'm a new site. So I put up 40k at one site.

Now the players will need to rake 40k plus 35% of that for our site to break even (due to player rakeback), then there is the affiliate and network costs; not get into the actual numbers, but lets look at the number with just rakeback: so basically 54k total rake to break even on the 40k. But that is reasonable and it's an educate risk as one would likely minimize your risk by doing a monthly rakeback races at multiple sites. So some rakeraces would be down, some up, but the net would be positive (after all if it wasn't, this model wouldn't work and it does).

But the financial risk isn't my concern (after all I've spent up to 150k on live events in new markets with no expectations for immediate short term returns), rather, what happens next month? If it worked out, I'd probably do it again and increase my scope. But even as I do that, I'm putting up a hold on all my marketing funds for 2 months and there will be a point where the risk of a higher rakerace prize pool out weights the potential return. So then there I'm stuck at this revenue level. So what is wrong with that? It is a steady source of income, and now I can save it for my marketing projects, right?

RUNNING A POKER SITE LIKE HOW A POKER PLAYER PLAYS
What I've come to understand is that just like a poker bankroll, there will be months where there may be a big hit that would wipe out the profits for that month and perhaps even the preceding months, meaning that I took a loss on the rakerace. Thus, the more I do this, the more I need to keep as my 'rakerace bankroll' to deal with the possible variance, which is no worries if our site runs good, but it it doesn't for some reasons, then we'd have to continue doing this rakeraces to get back into the black. It's almost being a poker player backer with a lot of horses while diversifying your risk and having enough bankroll to go the distance (which it inevitably will work out like most players with sufficient bankroll and management skills). That being said, this ain't the stock market with unlimited places to keep increasing your rakerace investment and why would I run a business like a poker player? Because the biggest downfall of this model is that you never build a brand and never attract fish.

Would you rather have lots of fish or a great rakerace? Now that is a stupid question to ask a poker player, the answer is, both of course, but I don't know if that is possible. Additionally, all those months you focused on rakeback races, and then start engaging in marketing, well you're again, starting from zero, as all marketing takes time to take effect. Time is something that I need to contend with more than just short term revenue considerations.

GO BIG OR GO HOME
The fact is, if you need to build up revenue to spend on marketing, then that kind of thinking is from someone who had no intention of making a serious poker company that would ever target the mainstream. You need to have put aside marketing funds for marketing, not for rakeback promotions to one day engage in marketing. The rakeback/rakerace model works, but it exists in this microcosm of a network putting up with your grinders, and when it decides the grinders are more than the depositors, then you have a cash where i-poker starts kicking off skins and affiliates off en mass to stabilize their network. But you guys know all that, and that isn't my point, and while I still could just do both (rakeraces/marketing), I'd rather spend everything on marketing for a long term position as time is the biggest opportunity cost.


RAKERACES AS JUST REWARDS
While I'm not concerned about gaining short term revenue, I do want to increase regular participation on my site by those who are active on poker communities; and if you're active on a poker community, you're likely on rakeback and like rakeraces. So last week I decided to do rakeraces, and have spent the week reflecting on how to do them that works for our site and my conclusion is to make it a capped entry for my existing low stake players who have already shown commitment to the site.

So in this case, I'm not going to use a rake race for the purpose of getting new players, but rather to reward players (aka retention) who are already playing without a rakerace. The amounts won't be comparable to the industry standard rake races, but since they will be capped and selected entry, they will still provide value to our players who normally would get a comparable amount or even less if they had joined an open huge rake race. Again, this isn't ground breaking stuff, I know a lot of sites will use private rake races to reward their top players; but again, their purpose is more revenue than retention and my players are already playing without a rakerace incentive.

HERO POKER ARENA RANKINGS
But I've decided to brand the rake race as 'Arena Rankings' and even if it is fundamentally rake race, as its not a term I really want to introduce in my mass marketing activities either. Before I launch that though, I'll get a freeroll out of the way first; so I'm going to make a thread in the Main poker asking for when and where etc. And in terms of my mass marketing, it launches quite soon, so if you're in that market hopefully, you'll notice it.

Cheers,
David
HeroPoker CEO

SUMMARY
-rake races for a pokersite requires a bankroll like someone who backs a lot of horses because not all rake races work out
-I didn't want HeroPoker to be dependent on rakeraces, but I recognize that somehow they should be integrated
-rake races aren't bad, but I'd rather spend everything on mainly marketing
-will make rakeraces capped and for newer players as more of a reward for those already playing.



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Sleep Well Tonight LP by Svenman87, April 04


http://www.rainymood.com/
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http://endlessvideo.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

night


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Turn and river play by Carreira, April 04


Can anyone recommend me articles/videos/books about postflop turn/river play?.

Im pretty sure this is the new serious leak i have right now at nl20-nl30

OFC im not asking for them free, ill paid if i have to.. just need names.

inb4 "play ABC poker bet your hands and fold when not having anything, you will win".

inb4 someone quoting the last sentence.


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