Joe Rogan or any good Podcast thread - Page 15

On March 12 2019 19:20 Loco wrote: "countering with factual based information" lol. Joe Rogan isn't where you go for learns, he's an entertainer. He's good at what he does (talking), but often his biases are all over the place and he pushes a fair amount of misinformation. There's been a running joke in the comments for a while about him changing his personality to suit the views of the person he has on his show. He rarely pushes back on his guests when he should, except if they argue for the dumbest shit, like Dave Rubin when he argued for anarcho-capitalism or that clueless NYT journalist he had on recently who was smearing people she doesn't know with insults that she didn't know the definitions of lmao. He has so many people on that sometimes they are total idiots like Mikhaila Peterson that nobody should be paying attention to, but he occasionally has really good guests. If you steer clear of his nutrition and politics-heavy episodes, you should be good.

I actually agree a lot with what you said as well. I guess my point was that it was the first podcast I can recall listening to where a subject would be discussed and then if the host or guest would be unsure of something on said subject, information would be looked up on the spot through Google (ala Jamie). Of course Joe isn't going to get everything right but comparatively speaking, I think he does a good job overall imo. I very rarely listen to his podcasts if it is a guest where politics are primarily discussed. It just doesn't interest me.

It's good that he has a guy who can do some basic fact checking live, but on-the-fly Google searches aren't that great when it comes to exploring more complex issues. That's where his biggest failures lie, but it's to be expected, he's an entertainer, and he never stops producing content. He's got no time for deep study and it's unlikely he will reevaluate his views because his few great guests don't come on his podcast to challenge him. It's just that a lot of people look to comedians as the ultimate truth tellers, because we had people like Bill Hicks and George Carlin in the past, but I think it's clearly a mistake to put Rogan in that category.

On March 13 2019 04:37 whammbot wrote: Duncan mentioned it once to Redban in another pod, they described how large the podcast has become with a kind of fearful tone, Bravo talks about it with Tripoli a lot. Joey and Ari doesn't really go on as much. Those guys were regulars back then if nobody else was available. One thing I've noticed though, each time Joe gets under fire he goes back to his old buddies (Redban or Ari) for an episode or two before going back to regular programming. It could be coincidence but it's happened more than once. Rogan has literally gotten way too big now that he's really in the national conversation in a sense. He had on Nick Depaulo recently again and I think he's never getting on there again lol. Owen Benjamin is nuts and I was actually surprised Joe gambled on Alex but that was sort of a survival episode for both of them as they were under fire for different reasons. Back then those mentioned would be considered buddy guests and nobody would care what they said. Lastly, Joe always talked about "fuck you money" before and that he was thinking of doing way less things, also mentioned "that compound living alongside his buddies". When the podcast blew up so big and made tens of millions he kinda did the opposite - he actually did more episodes than ever and abandoned the motivational and everyman type of persona. He also shut down his 10k strong forum site wherein he did post a lot of nasty stuff considered taboo in today's climate. I was a member back in 2009 (the forum was built around 1999 iirc) and I've signed up with the new forum where almost every member there is kinda done with him for not even saying goodbye to his old fans and is really responsible for spreading hype over how good the podcast is to everybody they knew.

Well Joey Diaz goes there often talking about eating cocaine boogers in the morning, if that flies anything else does too

On March 14 2019 00:16 Loco wrote: It's good that he has a guy who can do some basic fact checking live, but on-the-fly Google searches aren't that great when it comes to exploring more complex issues. That's where his biggest failures lie, but it's to be expected, he's an entertainer, and he never stops producing content. He's got no time for deep study and it's unlikely he will reevaluate his views because his few great guests don't come on his podcast to challenge him. It's just that a lot of people look to comedians as the ultimate truth tellers, because we had people like Bill Hicks and George Carlin in the past, but I think it's clearly a mistake to put Rogan in that category.

All very fair points. I try to take a skeptical viewpoint of any kind of information I absorb in whatever way but it's always easy to just listen and be too lazy to dive deeper into the topics discussed to educate yourself.

Loved the Ricky Gervais pod, really enjoyed his standups lately too. Can recommend his Golden globe apperances and netflix stuff!

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Cool podcast about AI in Starcraft that I wanted to share with some LP peeps, enjoyed listening and are interested in AI in general. Even though I havent played SC2 or BW in years I got so excited when I saw Starcraft in the title of a podcast Im already enjoying.

Seems possible that Chomsky will go on joe rogan, at least there is a lot of rumour about it. I'm not a viewer of much rogan myself but it would be very interesting to listen to

Chomsky? I love that guy!

rofl wow that interview is amazing

not the dumbest questions chomsky's encountered in an interview, just another day at the office lol.

@12:08. It's wild to hear this on the Joe Rogan podcast. I was actually thinking about this exact topic before watching and thinking about Dostoevsky even though I haven't read him in a few years. I was also reading some Situationist stuff and Cornel West brings up the Spectacle at around 13 mins.



I also noted down a quote from Cornel West for the first time a few hours before I stumbled upon this video. (It reminded me of Baal who took offense to being tied to the project of neoliberalism and how clueless he is about what that actually is).

“Neoliberal is somebody of any color who sees a social problem and does three things; privatize, financialize and militarize. You’ve got a problem in the schools, privatize the schools, push back public education. Bring in the financiers, the profiteers. Make money on the test, make money on the teachers while you push out the teachers unions, and then you militarize the schools. You bring in security. We’ve got precious young brothers and sisters in the hoods going to schools like you and I going through the airport. That’s the militarization of the schools. Police, the same way. Outsource, militarize right across the board, so that a neoliberal is somebody who is obsessed with markets." -Cornel West

Weird coincidences today.

Another coincidence. I painted Jesus laughing the other day because why not? It's a good question. Why does Jesus never laugh?

This Dr. Cornel West JRE is pretty fucking good.

It is a message that has to get out. Especially to Rogan and JRE fans.

I am really hoping now for Noam Chomsky to be on tJRE. Bring on the leftists!

On July 31 2019 04:56 RiKD wrote: Another coincidence. I painted Jesus laughing the other day because why not? It's a good question. Why does Jesus never laugh?

Because a big part of religion is about meaning and hope, and nobody needs more of those than the suffering, so catholicism fetichizes it as tool for control, the poor won't revolt if their suffering brings them closer to god so they turn the other cheek and worship Jesus, the ultimate Martyr.


More modern christian sects like evangelics, born again and even progressive catholics like the current pope depict a more loving and happy image of god since that molds better to modern societies where the old angry god of blood and tears isn't that relatable anymore.

taking rikd stream of consciousness statements seriously heh. It would be very strange if jesus never laughed, we should assume he did until proven otherwise, as 99% of people have a sense of humor, even dissidents analyzing the injustices of the roman empire. Or are we just talking about how he is depicted

On August 03 2019 04:03 Stroggoz wrote: taking rikd stream of consciousness statements seriously heh. It would be very strange if jesus never laughed, we should assume he did until proven otherwise, as 99% of people have a sense of humor, even dissidents analyzing the injustices of the roman empire. Or are we just talking about how he is depicted

It felt amazing to just comment on something that isn't politics.

I think he meant how he is depicted, and its not isolated to Jesus, any abrahamic figures are very rarely depicted smiling, contrasting to eastern religions that value like hinduism or the very famous image of Buddah's faint peaceful smile.

The catholics ascenticism was always tangled with the perverse idea of cleansing the soul through pain, this is perfectly reflected in figures like Mother Teresa.

He always fucking beats around the bush regarding late stage capitalism. Sometimes he's on point other times he gives these bullshit political answers.