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That Alex Jones podcast confirms that he's mentally ill and needs help. But at the same time, I laughed my ass off the whole way through because it's so absurd.

the success of his show has made his illness progress rapidly, he used to make antigovernment rants about corrupt politicians and truth but now he is just delirious.

Alex Jones seemed more tame during his recent appearance on the JRE. Funny, yet crazy guy.

I loved it.

Having meet8ngs with aliens on dmt and ahuyasca sounds fun

Honestly never knew much about Joe Rogan outside of his hosting Fear Factor and commentating UFC. I always thought of him as a small-man-syndrome douchebag based on the way he got into an argument with some random on myspace and bragged about all his money or whatever it was. Gave his podcast a try after it came across my youtube recommended videos and it's actually pretty decent. I really like his interviewing style.

his podcast with jamie foxx was one of the better ones. didn't know foxx was really cool. thought he was just the typical black dude.

^wow

it's 2019 come on

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On March 10 2019 00:17 blackjacki2 wrote: Honestly never knew much about Joe Rogan outside of his hosting Fear Factor and commentating UFC. I always thought of him as a small-man-syndrome douchebag based on the way he got into an argument with some random on myspace and bragged about all his money or whatever it was. Gave his podcast a try after it came across my youtube recommended videos and it's actually pretty decent. I really like his interviewing style.

Yeah back in the Fear Factor days I never knew much about Joe besides that. I randomly started checking his pod out 3-4 years ago when he had some guests that really interested me. He has really gotten very proficient at interviewing guests. I love the fact that he has such a wide variety of people that come from extremely different backgrounds. He's very good at letting the guest make their points/arguments and then countering with factual based information.

Some of my favorite guests that you can go back on Youtube and listen to are in no order: Kid Cudi, Teddy Atlas, Jocko Willink, Bill Burr, Georges St. Pierre (most recent one), & Anthony Bourdain

Thanks for the recommendations. I'm driving from Florida to Reno next week so I will definitely have time to check these out

"countering with factual based information" lol. Joe Rogan isn't where you go for learns, he's an entertainer. He's good at what he does (talking), but often his biases are all over the place and he pushes a fair amount of misinformation. There's been a running joke in the comments for a while about him changing his personality to suit the views of the person he has on his show. He rarely pushes back on his guests when he should, except if they argue for the dumbest shit, like Dave Rubin when he argued for anarcho-capitalism or that clueless NYT journalist he had on recently who was smearing people she doesn't know with insults that she didn't know the definitions of lmao. He has so many people on that sometimes they are total idiots like Mikhaila Peterson that nobody should be paying attention to, but he occasionally has really good guests. If you steer clear of his nutrition and politics-heavy episodes, you should be good.

Actually I agree with many things Loco said about JRE, although I think hyper-confrontation isn't the way to go in most cases or people will come to your podcast in a defensive position or not come at all, he recieved criticism for how soft he was with Jack Dorsey and I think he handled it correctly the 2nd time, confrontation was needed so he invited a 3rd party much better prepared than himself.

He only is confrontational when it comes about defending drugs and discussing conspiracies, but he usually keeps things entretaining and make his hosts feel comfortable and given how long podcasts are I thing these are extremely important.

I only loved the JRE till the Redban era ended. When Jamie took over it just turned into this socio-political platform for bros. Lots of my favorite guests no longer go on there for fear they might say something offensive and get run out of their careers. The only guys who go on there that I like are Brendan, Bryan and Bravo (who dgaf), Brendan and Bryan are still able to pander to the larger audience without really looking too careful about shit they say. Bravo gets too much hate for being crazy but that's just because he still talks like it's the JRE 2009 where you can say crazy shit to friends and not get any blowback.

All about the benjamins. Confrontational podcasts would earn him a lot less money, since he'd have much fewer guests. People know they can go on there and expect to be given a huge audience and a pretty easy time. Unless you're a scientologist or something. Even if you're a vegan, you're usually spared his most annoying beliefs, as long as you're not "preachy".

I saw some of that Twitter podcast with grifter extraordinaire Tim Pool, oh god... that is exactly where Joe Rogan is at his worst. He has a lot of pretend-to-be health experts and pretend-to-be "politically woke" people on his show; Tim Pool is one of them (a guy pretending to be a real journalist). Here's a picture of him without his hat on:

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Seriously though. I'd bet so much money on the fact that he wouldn't have done this podcast if he had been given an ultimatum: no hat or no podcast.Hiding his stupid head is worth a lot more to him than the money and subscribers he made from this.

On March 13 2019 01:41 whammbot wrote: turned into this socio-political platform for bros..

Oprah for bros

Nah, I had only seen Tim once before that but he did a good job confronting the PR bot giving generic evasive answers, since that was the whole purpose of the 2nd podcast since Joe got so much heat for letting Dorsey off lightly about its leftist censorship bias.

There was a particularly good one when the woman claimed one of the reasons they banned the Proud Boys was because they were labeled a terrorist orgnization by the US gov, and Tim informed them that they are infact not labeled as a terrorist organization, but that Homeland security has infact labeled Antifa as a domestic terrorist org

On March 13 2019 01:41 whammbot wrote: Lots of my favorite guests no longer go on there for fear they might say something offensive and get run out of their careers.

when has that ever happened?

Duncan mentioned it once to Redban in another pod, they described how large the podcast has become with a kind of fearful tone, Bravo talks about it with Tripoli a lot. Joey and Ari doesn't really go on as much. Those guys were regulars back then if nobody else was available. One thing I've noticed though, each time Joe gets under fire he goes back to his old buddies (Redban or Ari) for an episode or two before going back to regular programming. It could be coincidence but it's happened more than once. Rogan has literally gotten way too big now that he's really in the national conversation in a sense.

He had on Nick Depaulo recently again and I think he's never getting on there again lol. Owen Benjamin is nuts and I was actually surprised Joe gambled on Alex but that was sort of a survival episode for both of them as they were under fire for different reasons. Back then those mentioned would be considered buddy guests and nobody would care what they said.

Lastly, Joe always talked about "fuck you money" before and that he was thinking of doing way less things, also mentioned "that compound living alongside his buddies". When the podcast blew up so big and made tens of millions he kinda did the opposite - he actually did more episodes than ever and abandoned the motivational and everyman type of persona. He also shut down his 10k strong forum site wherein he did post a lot of nasty stuff considered taboo in today's climate. I was a member back in 2009 (the forum was built around 1999 iirc) and I've signed up with the new forum where almost every member there is kinda done with him for not even saying goodbye to his old fans and is really responsible for spreading hype over how good the podcast is to everybody they knew.

On March 13 2019 02:59 Baalim wrote: Nah, I had only seen Tim once before that but he did a good job confronting the PR bot giving generic evasive answers, since that was the whole purpose of the 2nd podcast since Joe got so much heat for letting Dorsey off lightly about its leftist censorship bias. There was a particularly good one when the woman claimed one of the reasons they banned the Proud Boys was because they were labeled a terrorist orgnization by the US gov, and Tim informed them that they are infact not labeled as a terrorist organization, but that Homeland security has infact labeled Antifa as a domestic terrorist org Show nested quote + On March 13 2019 01:41 whammbot wrote: Lots of my favorite guests no longer go on there for fear they might say something offensive and get run out of their careers. when has that ever happened?

He's a pretty clueless dude who is out to make a buck on the culture war, he pretty much admitted that much. He spends most of his time talking about censorship and pretending to be unbiased. Jimmy Dore just had him on, probably the first leftist podcast Tim Pool has ever made, and he essentially exposed himself by equivocating like a motherfucker on medicare for all. I'll post it below. Embarrassing. But at least he came out honestly right off the bat and said he has "his own partisan politics" instead of playing the enlightened centrist act.

The Twitter lady probably wanted to say that the Proud Boys are associated with domestic terrorist organizations and misspoke or got confused. It's completely irrelevant. Tim Pool's "comeback" is not a comeback, of fucking course the government wouldn't classify a neo-fascist group as domestic terrorists... they are not a threat to them, quite the opposite, they are extremely useful to them, making sure that they remain in power while the people are fighting over racial issues. The Proud Boys came exist as part of the rise in neo-fascism that came with the Trump administration, and their mission statement was precisely to fight against antifa, and Trump encouraged violence against them himself; they are his allies.

And of fucking course antifa is not an organization, and the government branded it as such in order to restrict people's freedom to protest, even just wearing all black at a protest can be punishable by law, but Tim Pool wouldn't mention that, that's not the freedom he cares about. You know (and I'm sure he does too) that the US funds terrorist groups and doesn't refer to them as such when they promote their interests, so the only reason to appeal to their authority with this knowledge is to play on people's ignorance as a lame "gotcha" comment in order to make the other person look bad. He hypocritically talks about "tribalism" and yet he engages in this kind of deceptive behavior just to score points with an uneducated audience.

I like the the use of "grifter" to describe Tim Pool.

On March 13 2019 02:59 Baalim wrote: There was a particularly good one when the woman claimed one of the reasons they banned the Proud Boys was because they were labeled a terrorist orgnization by the US gov, and Tim informed them that they are infact not labeled as a terrorist organization, but that Homeland security has infact labeled Antifa as a domestic terrorist org

So yesterday when I responded to this I gave you the benefit of the doubt that everything you wrote here is factually accurate, but I tried to find out more about it today because it further dawned on me that it would be such a stupid exchange to have, it doesn't make much sense. After searching the podcast I couldn't verify that this exchange actually happened as you say it did. I watched as much of it as I could stomach to try to find a place where they speak of the proud boys and antifa, but the only place I found is in this 10 minutes clip posted below. Here the Twitter lady doesn't mention banning the Proud Boys because of their label as a terrorist organization, and she asked Tim Pool if antifa was labelled as such by the FBI: it wasn't Tim Pool who countered her with that knowledge. He initially say yes, but then he corrects himself and says it's only New Jersey's department of homeland security (DHS) that has listed them as such. Except that's also not really accurate, because they don't have such a list of organizations. They have only issued statement warnings that antifa activist activities were tied to "anarchist extremism" and warned of threats of escalating domestic violence between anti-fascists and far-right extremists.

This same department also fell for a conspiracy theory that antifa was planning to initiate a civil war, which was manufactured by right-wing trolls and pushed by people like Alex Jones. They aren't exactly a reliable group of people... and they get their information about antifa from dubious sources:

"DHS’ understanding of anti-fascism—a broad, decentralized movement that conservative blogs often describe in sensational terms—might be less than perfect. An April 19, 2017 DHS email included in the FOIA documents shows a DHS senior policy adviser sending a link to a post on the now-defunct conservative blog Heat Street titled “Why Are Antifa And The Alt Right Doing Battle? They Agree on Almost Everything.”"

And here's another recent piece of news that shows who we're dealing with:

"Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen defended President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency at the southern border Wednesday, telling lawmakers in a contentious hearing that officials are on track to detain more than 900,000 migrants at the U.S.-Mexico border this year. Nielsen pushed back against widespread reports that the Trump administration routinely denies migrants a chance to apply for asylum in the U.S., claiming no one would be turned away at a U.S. port of entry. The claim prompted Democrat Nanette Barragán of the House Homeland Security Committee to reply, “Either you’re lying to this committee, or you don’t know what’s happening at the border.” Asked how many children are detained at the border, Nielsen replied she didn’t have the number handy. And she denied that migrant detainees are being held in cages."

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/7...sen_denies_migrants_are_held_in_cages