Cash Game or Tournament Player ???

Can someone tell what is the biggest difference in a cash game player or a tournament player? I would like to know what skills seperate the two. Why I ask I came into poker trying to learn cash games while spewing some good money, and now I have relized my kind of aggression is better suited as a tournament player. Maybe I am wrong, need your insight LPers

cash players need to be skillfull and talented, tourney players just need to be lucky morons. cash players have more testicular fortitude than tourney players.

i play tourneys

Actually Robinson I have been watching you as a tourney player. I watched you and Marshall and NeillyAA.

stalker

LOL...naw student of poker

I think tournament poker is more technical. you play much fewer hands against the same players so you have a lot less reads and since stacks are usually very shallow there's a lot less postflop play.

there is no such thing as an MTT player. It's a habit u need to support by either playing cash games or SNGs.

On February 04 2010 17:58 SfydjkLm wrote: there is no such thing as an MTT player. It's a habit u need to support by either playing cash games or SNGs.

there is such a thing an mtt player, which i think is the hardest to be because if your playing a mtt you have to play for 6+ hours each session.

both sides have pros n cons but basically :

If u need freedom & less luck involved in your sessions - > go for cash games
If u feel like playing 5hrs++ every sess & getting hit extremely hard by variance, however cash in sicker amounts - > go for tournaments

The pure mtt player is a magical human who is more spirit than human. I know of a few pure mtt pros, they are highstake mtt players and they go on -65k swings. Only the most delusional or faithful can go on these downswings and continue playing, that's why I say they are more like a spirit than a human.

skill

;p

MTT players gotta have a really open schedule, like the 3 rebuy takes 8 hours, so you really need to be up early and register for like 4 hours and then play um all out.. you gotta be able to expect to lose almost every day and know ur gonna hit that big score sometime..

cashgame players gotta deal with tilt more, moving up stakes, i think more stress, dealing with regs all the time, remembering how people played past hands and stuff.. overall takes more focus too because your going to be playing as many tables as you can when your playing cash.. but in cashgames u can just clock out at any time and go grab a beer or soemthing with friends.. tourny players r stuck till everythigns done.

tj cloutier and amarillo slim were tournament beasts during their prime...lol

Thanks Bros !!!!!!!!!

They take a different skillset. What you need in order to be good at MTTs is a great sense of self hatred in order to endure them.

Lol

Cash Game Player



Tournament Player

On February 04 2010 17:45 Oskar_123 wrote: I think tournament poker is more technical.... since stacks are usually very shallow there's a lot less postflop play.

Less postflop play = less technical.

You will definately improve your tournament play by playing cash games and learning how to play after the flop. This is important in the early stages of a tournament when blinds are small relative to stacks.

Cash game strategy got shit to do with tournament strategy. The closest concept they have in common is + ev.
6 max with antes is closest to mtt, or short stacking 6max with antes

fact of matter is, unlessyou are playing cash on super high level or 1 tabling or something. Cash game will make u a worse mtt player if u are not careful.

U are 100bb + deep in cash with no anntes and u can reload when lose. How the he'll does that help u with 10-40 bb poker w/ antes?

On February 05 2010 04:40 woodbrave1 wrote: How the he'll does that help u

LOL

On February 05 2010 04:40 woodbrave1 wrote: Cash game strategy got shit to do with tournament strategy. The closest concept they have in common is + ev. 6 max with antes is closest to mtt, or short stacking 6max with antes fact of matter is, unlessyou are playing cash on super high level or 1 tabling or something. Cash game will make u a worse mtt player if u are not careful. U are 100bb + deep in cash with no anntes and u can reload when lose. How the he'll does that help u with 10-40 bb poker w/ antes?

wouldnt it help for the major events and every tourney with a slow structure.

is it easier to transition from cash to tournaments
or from tournaments to cash?

I presume the former.

Sng to mtt is easy transition. Sng easier than cash.
To just straight out mtt pro is not even possible unless u r a spirit or you box a tourney. Straight out cash is normal.

Cash players can't transition outright to mtt pro. They will get their soul broken most the time. Mtt pros are used to far worse variance can transitition to cash.

but if you're a winning cash player it seems unlikely that you'd just quit cash games altogether to play MTTs, since most live events offer lucrative cash games.
If youre a winning cash-game player it seems unlikely youd choose to be an MTT pro. Since you already possess the ability to win in other games.

I agree that most people start with SnGs because they usually offer the most play per $ to a newbie player.

donkament ur in the engine room on a nuclear submarine. who knows where the fuck ur going and when u get there, nukes might come out, torpedoes might arrive, blast china off the map go home impregnate the bitch it's just wut.

cash fkn sunroof open same motherfuckers every day crack the nut. it's just you.

On February 05 2010 00:54 byrnesam wrote: Cash Game Player + Show Spoiler + Tournament Player+ Show Spoiler +

So true...

On February 05 2010 00:54 byrnesam wrote: Cash Game Player Tournament Player

hahaha

On February 05 2010 00:54 byrnesam wrote: Cash Game Player Tournament Player

skill obv, luckboxing 1 tourney a month is all u need to be rich, that only if ur lucky

lol woodbrave, there are several cash game players who have had way more than 65k downswings and they keep playing..... wtf?

do you mean isildurs 5M+ ds?

i mean like durrr, or even a bunch of my friends who had several 6 figures downswings and they still kill the games

On February 05 2010 17:57 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2010 00:54 byrnesam wrote: Cash Game Player + Show Spoiler + Tournament Player+ Show Spoiler + So true...

Tournament player



Cash game player

Cash game is chess , Tournaments are checkers

Cash is 1v1 on iccup
Tournament is 3v3 BGH on public

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Database analyst

LMAO

[QUOTE]On February 07 2010 08:44 Currency wrote:
Database analyst

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LOL, I could barely withhold a beer shower on my laptop :D

On February 06 2010 13:29 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2010 17:57 taco wrote:   On February 05 2010 00:54 byrnesam wrote: Cash Game Player + Show Spoiler + Tournament Player+ Show Spoiler + So true... Tournament player Cash game player

if you wanted to make an anti-byrnesam post you should have picked somebody else besides one of the biggest heroes in poker, Blom.

All the World Champions like Jamie Gold, Doyle Brunson, Chris Moneymaker and Joe Cada play MTTs, who wouldn't be like one of them?

On February 07 2010 08:44 Currency wrote: Database analyst

rofl

On February 07 2010 08:44 Currency wrote: Database analyst

Hahaha Bravo man, you made me lol

On February 07 2010 17:43 LemOn[5thF] wrote: All the World Champions like Jamie Gold, Doyle Brunson, Chris Moneymaker and Joe Cada play MTTs, who wouldn't be like one of them?

I think it goes like this : you want to be famous and get harrassed by everyone that want an interview or whatnot, whereas you can make ton of money with the luxury of being anonymous.
So cash game all the way for me

On February 04 2010 17:32 Robinson47 wrote: cash players need to be skillfull and talented, tourney players just need to be lucky morons. cash players have more testicular fortitude than tourney players. i play tourneys

ROFL


well I am a cash player bcuz it has a way lower variance, plus I never liked to play like 4 hours and get in the bubble by some stupid donk hitting a miracle card... Skill I'd say is the main difference

On February 04 2010 17:32 Robinson47 wrote: cash players need to be skillfull and talented, tourney players just need to be lucky morons. cash players have more testicular fortitude than tourney players. i play tourneys

dont see how can anyone say it better :D