Animal fur trade, disgusting

Yeah I know you probably hate preaching hippies as much as the next guy (so do I), but this interesting forward landed in my mailbox from a friend whom I wouldn't normally expect to receive such "spam" from. So, curiously I followed the link...

http://www.peta.org/feat/ChineseFurFarms/index.asp

WARNING! The video contained on this page is very disturbing. I suggest not watching it. The descriptions are enough to know what's going on.

So yeah, watching this video (stupid me) has made me really angry (an illogical anger, but anger nonetheless).

Yeah that shit is really sick

I saw this shit a while ago and since have stopped buying fur/leather products as much as possible. I feel bad enough eating meat, I really can't justify torturing animals for my entertainment or clothing when other clothes work perfectly fine for me.

What makes me even more sick, is after they skin the animals alive they don't have the common decency to at least kill them and put them out of there misery

Although I am not going to support PETA because they are bunch of hypocritical scamming pieces of shit. I just won't buy fur.

I remember seeing one of those videos on teamliquid years ago and it literally put me in tears. I didn't really make the link with food back then. =[

Ive seen worse been done to humans. And no one seems to care.

You just have to see how humans are treated in those areas and you will understand why "humane treatment" of animals doesnt even cross their minds, its not malice, its just their way of life.

There is something very sick going on there. Empathy is an inbuilt mechanism of humans, and it extends beyond seeing only other humans in pain. Any furry mammalian creature in pain naturally triggers empathic responses in our brains, so to have that function completely over-ridden is hard to imagine. Most likely they're just ignoring it, which is far worse than not having one (because they're acknowledging the animals' pain yet continue to harm it anyway).

Many serial killers lack a functioning empathy pathway in their brain, explaining why they can do the things they do to other people and not see why it's "wrong" (ie. they don't feel others' pain emotionally).

If you don't understand physiologically how empathy works, basically if we see something painful occurring to some one/thing else, our visual cortex forwards that sensory information to other parts of the brain including physical sensory areas and emotion association areas; we feel an "emotional" pain without the actual physical stimulus, yet our physical sense area is stimulated because of these other pathways. The basic explanation is that when we see pain, our brain literally puts us in the shoes of whom we're seeing, and imagines the stimulus as if it were happening to us.

On a side note, yes it is possible to become desensitised to seeing certain painful stimuli if exposed over and over. For instance, when you go to a doctor and receive an injection, the doctor says "this won't hurt", and they literally believe it. In the average doctors mind, they feel much less emotional pain when seeing some one else receive a needle compared to the average person. The most extreme example I can think of is when some one gets kicked in the balls: just thinking about it makes you cringe a little.

ugh gross. Damn you peta, just let me eat meat in my own solitary ignorance.

On June 23 2009 21:27 Shenny wrote: ugh gross. Damn you peta, just let me eat meat in my own solitary ignorance.

On June 23 2009 21:06 PokerDoc88 wrote: There is something very sick going on there. Empathy is an inbuilt mechanism of humans, and it extends beyond seeing only other humans in pain. Any furry mammalian creature in pain naturally triggers empathic responses in our brains, so to have that function completely over-ridden is hard to imagine. Most likely they're just ignoring it, which is far worse than not having one (because they're acknowledging the animals' pain yet continue to harm it anyway). Many serial killers lack a functioning empathy pathway in their brain, explaining why they can do the things they do to other people and not see why it's "wrong" (ie. they don't feel others' pain emotionally). If you don't understand physiologically how empathy works, basically if we see something painful occurring to some one/thing else, our visual cortex forwards that sensory information to other parts of the brain including physical sensory areas and emotion association areas; we feel an "emotional" pain without the actual physical stimulus, yet our physical sense area is stimulated because of these other pathways. The basic explanation is that when we see pain, our brain literally puts us in the shoes of whom we're seeing, and imagines the stimulus as if it were happening to us. On a side note, yes it is possible to become desensitised to seeing certain painful stimuli if exposed over and over. For instance, when you go to a doctor and receive an injection, the doctor says "this won't hurt", and they literally believe it. In the average doctors mind, they feel much less emotional pain when seeing some one else receive a needle compared to the average person. The most extreme example I can think of is when some one gets kicked in the balls: just thinking about it makes you cringe a little.

No, most of it is nurtured through society, thats why animals have very little sympathy for other species pain, they eat their prays alive and do other things that we would consider brutal.

We as advanced beings we rationalize others pain and try to avoid it if possible, however the conditions this people live in, the way they were raised and how their world works make them unable to even consider the pain these animals suffer.

Let me put you an example, in a distnat past, when a girl or woman was raped it wasnt a big deal, it wasnt good but the girl didnt get "scard for life" the girl moved on no problem because it was a common occurrence and the society didnt see it as the abomination it is today. Today when a woman gets raped its life shattering, they have nightmares, become agorafobic and have severe psychological trauma, that shows that not only our sympathy for pain, but our own pain is nurtured rather than natural.

Ah those old golden days when you could just walk up to a woman, rape her, and everything would be a-ok for both parties.

On June 23 2009 22:01 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 21:06 PokerDoc88 wrote: There is something very sick going on there. Empathy is an inbuilt mechanism of humans, and it extends beyond seeing only other humans in pain. Any furry mammalian creature in pain naturally triggers empathic responses in our brains, so to have that function completely over-ridden is hard to imagine. Most likely they're just ignoring it, which is far worse than not having one (because they're acknowledging the animals' pain yet continue to harm it anyway). Many serial killers lack a functioning empathy pathway in their brain, explaining why they can do the things they do to other people and not see why it's "wrong" (ie. they don't feel others' pain emotionally). If you don't understand physiologically how empathy works, basically if we see something painful occurring to some one/thing else, our visual cortex forwards that sensory information to other parts of the brain including physical sensory areas and emotion association areas; we feel an "emotional" pain without the actual physical stimulus, yet our physical sense area is stimulated because of these other pathways. The basic explanation is that when we see pain, our brain literally puts us in the shoes of whom we're seeing, and imagines the stimulus as if it were happening to us. On a side note, yes it is possible to become desensitised to seeing certain painful stimuli if exposed over and over. For instance, when you go to a doctor and receive an injection, the doctor says "this won't hurt", and they literally believe it. In the average doctors mind, they feel much less emotional pain when seeing some one else receive a needle compared to the average person. The most extreme example I can think of is when some one gets kicked in the balls: just thinking about it makes you cringe a little. No, most of it is nurtured through society, thats why animals have very little sympathy for other species pain, they eat their prays alive and do other things that we would consider brutal. We as advanced beings we rationalize others pain and try to avoid it if possible, however the conditions this people live in, the way they were raised and how their world works make them unable to even consider the pain these animals suffer. Let me put you an example, in a distnat past, when a girl or woman was raped it wasnt a big deal, it wasnt good but the girl didnt get "scard for life" the girl moved on no problem because it was a common occurrence and the society didnt see it as the abomination it is today. Today when a woman gets raped its life shattering, they have nightmares, become agorafobic and have severe psychological trauma, that shows that not only our sympathy for pain, but our own pain is nurtured rather than natural.

Sorry Baal, this is wrong. Empathy is a natural physiological mechanism, look it up if you want. Society plays a huge role in influencing our empathic responses, but the underlying mechanism is hardwired into our brains. The key thing to remember is 'before you can cause harm to some one/thing else, first you must de-humanise them'. I hope this helps you understand.

On June 23 2009 22:03 SakiSaki wrote: Ah those old golden days when you could just walk up to a woman, rape her, and everything would be a-ok for both parties.

then get wasted on wine and go into battle with your two handed sword... good ol times

On June 23 2009 22:29 PokerDoc88 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 22:01 Baal wrote:   On June 23 2009 21:06 PokerDoc88 wrote: There is something very sick going on there. Empathy is an inbuilt mechanism of humans, and it extends beyond seeing only other humans in pain. Any furry mammalian creature in pain naturally triggers empathic responses in our brains, so to have that function completely over-ridden is hard to imagine. Most likely they're just ignoring it, which is far worse than not having one (because they're acknowledging the animals' pain yet continue to harm it anyway). Many serial killers lack a functioning empathy pathway in their brain, explaining why they can do the things they do to other people and not see why it's "wrong" (ie. they don't feel others' pain emotionally). If you don't understand physiologically how empathy works, basically if we see something painful occurring to some one/thing else, our visual cortex forwards that sensory information to other parts of the brain including physical sensory areas and emotion association areas; we feel an "emotional" pain without the actual physical stimulus, yet our physical sense area is stimulated because of these other pathways. The basic explanation is that when we see pain, our brain literally puts us in the shoes of whom we're seeing, and imagines the stimulus as if it were happening to us. On a side note, yes it is possible to become desensitised to seeing certain painful stimuli if exposed over and over. For instance, when you go to a doctor and receive an injection, the doctor says "this won't hurt", and they literally believe it. In the average doctors mind, they feel much less emotional pain when seeing some one else receive a needle compared to the average person. The most extreme example I can think of is when some one gets kicked in the balls: just thinking about it makes you cringe a little. No, most of it is nurtured through society, thats why animals have very little sympathy for other species pain, they eat their prays alive and do other things that we would consider brutal. We as advanced beings we rationalize others pain and try to avoid it if possible, however the conditions this people live in, the way they were raised and how their world works make them unable to even consider the pain these animals suffer. Let me put you an example, in a distnat past, when a girl or woman was raped it wasnt a big deal, it wasnt good but the girl didnt get "scard for life" the girl moved on no problem because it was a common occurrence and the society didnt see it as the abomination it is today. Today when a woman gets raped its life shattering, they have nightmares, become agorafobic and have severe psychological trauma, that shows that not only our sympathy for pain, but our own pain is nurtured rather than natural. Sorry Baal, this is wrong. Empathy is a natural physiological mechanism, look it up if you want. Society plays a huge role in influencing our empathic responses, but the underlying mechanism is hardwired into our brains. The key thing to remember is 'before you can cause harm to some one/thing else, first you must de-humanise them'. I hope this helps you understand.

"de-humanize" it... animals are not humans as i said, animals show very little empathy for other species in pain.

Im not saying its right to harm animals or that we shouldnt care, we should care and stop wearing stupid meaningless fur, but the empathy for other species pain has been strengtened with time, do you think they give a flying fuck about animal suffering 2,000 years ago?

On June 23 2009 22:34 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 22:29 PokerDoc88 wrote:   On June 23 2009 22:01 Baal wrote:   On June 23 2009 21:06 PokerDoc88 wrote: There is something very sick going on there. Empathy is an inbuilt mechanism of humans, and it extends beyond seeing only other humans in pain. Any furry mammalian creature in pain naturally triggers empathic responses in our brains, so to have that function completely over-ridden is hard to imagine. Most likely they're just ignoring it, which is far worse than not having one (because they're acknowledging the animals' pain yet continue to harm it anyway). Many serial killers lack a functioning empathy pathway in their brain, explaining why they can do the things they do to other people and not see why it's "wrong" (ie. they don't feel others' pain emotionally). If you don't understand physiologically how empathy works, basically if we see something painful occurring to some one/thing else, our visual cortex forwards that sensory information to other parts of the brain including physical sensory areas and emotion association areas; we feel an "emotional" pain without the actual physical stimulus, yet our physical sense area is stimulated because of these other pathways. The basic explanation is that when we see pain, our brain literally puts us in the shoes of whom we're seeing, and imagines the stimulus as if it were happening to us. On a side note, yes it is possible to become desensitised to seeing certain painful stimuli if exposed over and over. For instance, when you go to a doctor and receive an injection, the doctor says "this won't hurt", and they literally believe it. In the average doctors mind, they feel much less emotional pain when seeing some one else receive a needle compared to the average person. The most extreme example I can think of is when some one gets kicked in the balls: just thinking about it makes you cringe a little. No, most of it is nurtured through society, thats why animals have very little sympathy for other species pain, they eat their prays alive and do other things that we would consider brutal. We as advanced beings we rationalize others pain and try to avoid it if possible, however the conditions this people live in, the way they were raised and how their world works make them unable to even consider the pain these animals suffer. Let me put you an example, in a distnat past, when a girl or woman was raped it wasnt a big deal, it wasnt good but the girl didnt get "scard for life" the girl moved on no problem because it was a common occurrence and the society didnt see it as the abomination it is today. Today when a woman gets raped its life shattering, they have nightmares, become agorafobic and have severe psychological trauma, that shows that not only our sympathy for pain, but our own pain is nurtured rather than natural. Sorry Baal, this is wrong. Empathy is a natural physiological mechanism, look it up if you want. Society plays a huge role in influencing our empathic responses, but the underlying mechanism is hardwired into our brains. The key thing to remember is 'before you can cause harm to some one/thing else, first you must de-humanise them'. I hope this helps you understand. "de-humanize" it... animals are not humans as i said, animals show very little empathy for other species in pain. Im not saying its right to harm animals or that we shouldnt care, we should care and stop wearing stupid meaningless fur, but the empathy for other species pain has been strengtened with time, do you think they give a flying fuck about animal suffering 2,000 years ago?

Nearly all animals of any species display an empathic-like mechanism, which explains why wolves hunting in packs still do not eat or harm each other, nor do swarming piranhas. So wolves must "de-wolf" their prey, and piranhas "de-piranhaise" etc. Sorry Baal, try again.

On June 23 2009 22:59 PokerDoc88 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2009 22:34 Baal wrote:   On June 23 2009 22:29 PokerDoc88 wrote:   On June 23 2009 22:01 Baal wrote:   On June 23 2009 21:06 PokerDoc88 wrote: There is something very sick going on there. Empathy is an inbuilt mechanism of humans, and it extends beyond seeing only other humans in pain. Any furry mammalian creature in pain naturally triggers empathic responses in our brains, so to have that function completely over-ridden is hard to imagine. Most likely they're just ignoring it, which is far worse than not having one (because they're acknowledging the animals' pain yet continue to harm it anyway). Many serial killers lack a functioning empathy pathway in their brain, explaining why they can do the things they do to other people and not see why it's "wrong" (ie. they don't feel others' pain emotionally). If you don't understand physiologically how empathy works, basically if we see something painful occurring to some one/thing else, our visual cortex forwards that sensory information to other parts of the brain including physical sensory areas and emotion association areas; we feel an "emotional" pain without the actual physical stimulus, yet our physical sense area is stimulated because of these other pathways. The basic explanation is that when we see pain, our brain literally puts us in the shoes of whom we're seeing, and imagines the stimulus as if it were happening to us. On a side note, yes it is possible to become desensitised to seeing certain painful stimuli if exposed over and over. For instance, when you go to a doctor and receive an injection, the doctor says "this won't hurt", and they literally believe it. In the average doctors mind, they feel much less emotional pain when seeing some one else receive a needle compared to the average person. The most extreme example I can think of is when some one gets kicked in the balls: just thinking about it makes you cringe a little. No, most of it is nurtured through society, thats why animals have very little sympathy for other species pain, they eat their prays alive and do other things that we would consider brutal. We as advanced beings we rationalize others pain and try to avoid it if possible, however the conditions this people live in, the way they were raised and how their world works make them unable to even consider the pain these animals suffer. Let me put you an example, in a distnat past, when a girl or woman was raped it wasnt a big deal, it wasnt good but the girl didnt get "scard for life" the girl moved on no problem because it was a common occurrence and the society didnt see it as the abomination it is today. Today when a woman gets raped its life shattering, they have nightmares, become agorafobic and have severe psychological trauma, that shows that not only our sympathy for pain, but our own pain is nurtured rather than natural. Sorry Baal, this is wrong. Empathy is a natural physiological mechanism, look it up if you want. Society plays a huge role in influencing our empathic responses, but the underlying mechanism is hardwired into our brains. The key thing to remember is 'before you can cause harm to some one/thing else, first you must de-humanise them'. I hope this helps you understand. "de-humanize" it... animals are not humans as i said, animals show very little empathy for other species in pain. Im not saying its right to harm animals or that we shouldnt care, we should care and stop wearing stupid meaningless fur, but the empathy for other species pain has been strengtened with time, do you think they give a flying fuck about animal suffering 2,000 years ago? Nearly all animals of any species display an empathic-like mechanism, which explains why wolves hunting in packs still do not eat or harm each other, nor do swarming piranhas. So wolves must "de-wolf" their prey, and piranhas "de-piranhaise" etc. Sorry Baal, try again.

They dont have to "de-wolf" their god damnt prey... their prey is NOT A WOLF... how do you de-wolf something that isnt a wolf in the first place... sigh this discussion is retarded.

how do these topics always get derailed into the weirdest side topics?

I really expected Loco to have started this thread...

me too, but this is disgusting, not the ignorant retards doing it, but the educated people in the 1st world buying fucking fur.


Yesterday i were in the bathroom and there was this random magazine so i decided to read it and they were saying what is "IN" this season... FUR, with pictures of stupid models wearing fur... wtf i thought we were past that shit -.-

seen this before. tbh i loled when i saw it cos over here in west we care about animals so much and it just goes to show how silly we are cos in china where they are poor, it doesnt cross their mind.

and there is a lot worse stuff done to humans on theync.com ... stuff like people burnt alive for being witches in africa, or psychos beating a man with a hammer, sticking screwdrivers in his body and then popping his eyes out while he's alive and injured.

Fucking animals .... why dont they just kill them before skinning ? I really dont understand im confused i mean they could easily slit their throat with a knife then wait until its dead and then skin it but it looks like they find it funny/enjoyable to make them suffer.

On June 24 2009 00:29 Achoo wrote: Fucking animals .... why dont they just kill them before skinning ? I really dont understand im confused i mean they could easily slit their throat with a knife then wait until its dead and then skin it but it looks like they find it funny/enjoyable to make them suffer.

well...

if it takes 15 seconds to slit an animals throat and make sure it's dead...

and takes 45 seconds to completely skin an animal...

and if you work 8 hours a day...

you can only skin 480 animals per day if you are slitting throats, but you can skin 640 animals per day if you skip this step

$$$$$$$$$$

wtf BS u can still stab is to kill it cmon you hear they have fun while making those poor animals suffer

On June 24 2009 00:46 Achoo wrote: wtf BS u can still stab is to kill it cmon you hear they have fun while making those poor animals suffer

no they dont its in ur head. theyre just working and uncaring. its plain to see

I almost vomited, I could not even watch 1/3 of this. I actually almost cried for that poor animal, I wish I never saw this

Seems like it would be faster to kill it first rather than having to skin an animal that's squirming around. That's some fucked up shit, and I'm glad I don't own any fur.

On June 24 2009 00:29 Achoo wrote: Fucking animals .... why dont they just kill them before skinning ? I really dont understand im confused i mean they could easily slit their throat with a knife then wait until its dead and then skin it but it looks like they find it funny/enjoyable to make them suffer.

I know, i agree with this. they should but maybe they want the skin around the animals neck or something, who knows. Again, i had a big meal before i watched that and i'm feeling sick to my stomach.

On June 24 2009 01:19 ShadowDrgn wrote: Seems like it would be faster to kill it first rather than having to skin an animal that's squirming around. That's some fucked up shit, and I'm glad I don't own any fur.

Don't know many males that own fur actually, not will I ever buy my girlfriend any in the future.

i cried watching this

On June 24 2009 01:18 mrpav.com wrote: I almost vomited, I could not even watch 1/3 of this. I actually almost cried for that poor animal, I wish I never saw this

lol pussy

On June 23 2009 23:33 Sicks Macks wrote: I really expected Loco to have started this thread...

you would be pretty stupid to think I wouldn't have created it before if I wanted to... and it would be even more stupid to believe I just got wind of the fur business which is part of animal cruelty and which any vegan knows about and if you're making that post it means you know i'm vegan.

admit it, you're just trying to be funny.

lol chill the fuck out

Because a fur's origin can't be traced, anyone who wears any fur at all shares the blame for the horrific conditions on Chinese fur farms. The only way to prevent such unimaginable cruelty is never to wear any fur.

This logic tilts me.

humans tilt me

ive never seen an animal without furr/skin alive and blinking its eyes. It was quite disturbing.

im shocked

i absolutely despise PETA... but this is really messed up

I won't even watch it. You shouldn't hurt other animals without good reason but if PETA said that the sky was blue I'd have my eyes checked out by a doctor.

I watched the documentary Earthlings a few weeks ago. I'm very much against fur as it's absolutely useless and the alternatives (fake fur and such) are just as good imo. But that documentary also showed the way leather and meat is produced, in about the sickest way possible, not that much different than the treatment of animals for fur. I feel sorta like a hypocrite saying fur is bad and in the same time eating the meat and wearing the leather that also got produced in horrible ways, but n the other hand I just cant miss meat and leather, the alternatives are just a lot worse (plastic/fake leather shoes or those meat-replacements suck ). But then again, it's not like I say to the butcher "I want the cow that produced that steak to get hurt as much as possible".

I do understand people who are vegetarian or vegan and I do think it's nice that they are that way, but I just cant live without it. For fur however, there's just no excuse to wear it imo.

i could cashout 1/2of my BR for this little guyz
crazy people , seriously they could kill them before doing this shit , or they could buy sheep and shaved them... the selling price would be the same for them

i dont see why ur all so sad. i agree with baal lol

have u ever worn a nice fur coat? just the same as leather and meat

On June 24 2009 09:19 genjix wrote: i dont see why ur all so sad. i agree with baal lol have u ever worn a nice fur coat? just the same as leather and meat

no its not.

On June 24 2009 00:25 genjix wrote: and there is a lot worse stuff done to humans on theync.com ... stuff like people burnt alive for being witches in africa, or psychos beating a man with a hammer, sticking screwdrivers in his body and then popping his eyes out while he's alive and injured.

yeah but these arent THAT bad

9/11 was worse...

and the holocaust was worse than that.

circle of life, imo.

solid logic in that post.

am i the only one aroused by this?

On June 24 2009 00:29 Achoo wrote: Fucking animals .... why dont they just kill them before skinning ? I really dont understand im confused i mean they could easily slit their throat with a knife then wait until its dead and then skin it but it looks like they find it funny/enjoyable to make them suffer.

To my understanding they don't want to slit the animals throats because it gets blood all over the fur and makes a larger mess.

On June 24 2009 11:07 Racist Dragon wrote: am i the only one aroused by this?

You are disgusting but at least very honest

boohoo they put lobsters into boiling hot water alive at restaurants

pain receptors in lobsters arent the same as pain receptors in cats/dogs

On June 24 2009 11:07 Racist Dragon wrote: am i the only one aroused by this?

.... GDIAF

a grease fire at that

On June 24 2009 12:04 genjix wrote: boohoo they put lobsters into boiling hot water alive at restaurants

This is wrong too. You're just a pathetic piece of fucking shit. How about Earth gets invaded by technologically superior aliens and then they take you prisoner and string you up and cut your skin off. And then leave you to die slowly over 10 minutes.

I'm sure you can agree this is not a nice thing to do to a human. So why allow it to happen to an animal? We're far more similar to animals than a lot of us would like to think. They feel pain in an almost identical manner to how we do. Just because other dickheads are doing it to animals, doesn't mean it's OK to act like a jaded fuck with the pathetic attitude of "boohoo shit happens". These farmers have a choice of how to kill the animals they're breeding, and they choose the cheapest, cruelest way. They don't even have the dignity to kill the animal AFTER they've removed the skin, they just let it lie there and slowly bleed out for 10 minutes -.-

On June 24 2009 09:42 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2009 00:25 genjix wrote: and there is a lot worse stuff done to humans on theync.com ... stuff like people burnt alive for being witches in africa, or psychos beating a man with a hammer, sticking screwdrivers in his body and then popping his eyes out while he's alive and injured. yeah but these arent THAT bad 9/11 was worse... and the holocaust was worse than that. circle of life, imo. solid logic in that post.

Basically sums up my view on this, in a sarcastic manner. Genjix your logic is pathetic.

On June 24 2009 11:23 ShouldNotBHere wrote: To my understanding they don't want to slit the animals throats because it gets blood all over the fur and makes a larger mess.

i see, then what about grabing a rock and smash their heads, quick and no blood, costs nothing. Problem solved, if you listen closely to the video u can hear them laugh while torturing these animals fucking pigs.

welcome to the world

Did they laugh? I wonder if a human is the only species that can extract joy from torturing another human or animal. Ive seen my cat play with a mouse before she kills it. Dunno if she has fun.

omg this is really sick.... I'm definitely not buying fur or anything ever again.

On June 24 2009 13:36 austrian oak wrote: Did they laugh? I wonder if a human is the only species that can extract joy from torturing another human or animal. Ive seen my cat play with a mouse before she kills it. Dunno if she has fun.

it has been shown that dolphins enjoy killing other creatures and often do it for fun...quite possibly it's just part of what comes with higher intelligence is that some of the species will find joy in killing

Im speechless. Seriously, that animal being ripped apart while concious, I have no words.

On June 24 2009 07:41 DustySwedeDude wrote: I won't even watch it. You shouldn't hurt other animals without good reason but if PETA said that the sky was blue I'd have my eyes checked out by a doctor.

This

On June 24 2009 12:07 byrnesam wrote: pain receptors in lobsters arent the same as pain receptors in cats/dogs

its not about pain receptors more about consciousness.

On these farms, foxes, minks, rabbits, and other animals pace and shiver in outdoor wire cages, exposed to driving rain

lol PETA

Well i recently watched a documentation about south africa.
And what i saw there makes me think Baal is right in some way.

These people are just used to violence in a whole other way than us modern western human beings
They dont care about feelings or pain of other beings cause they are too buisy with they own shit/ used to violence anyways.
In that documentation an old guy beat up a thief with his shovel.
then a crowd of natives who saw this tried to catch teh old man and burn him alive !"!!!! WTF

Police was called and rescued tha old man.

The reporter asked some of the people if they dont feel like burning someone alive is totally wrong in so many ways .

The guys who were asked simply didnt understand the question at first and were very confused.
The reporter made clear that it seems too extrem of a sanction to burn someone alive just because he beat another person who tried to steal .
Guys still didnt really understand and looked all confused ... then soeone replied : Well he beat someone up so we burn him alive ... has always been this way.... he shrugs his shoulders ...

This made me feel so sick when i saw it a few months ago.

These guys seriously wanted to burn the old man alive just he overreacted in a self defence case.
And they didnt look like intentionallly bad persons or something .. they just thought it is within moral standards and no problem to burn someone alive ..

i jacked off to that video, hot stuff

is strongly hate unnecessarily brutal treatment such as the shit displayed on that abomination people call a website. fuck at least break it's neck and give the poor shit some fucking mercy jesus. Also people who waste perfectly good meat piss me off and tilt me.

but who gives a fuck about animals gimmie my steak.

ugh very disturbing to see, not that you are surprised but still brutal.

in china these guys are poor, they dont have same feelings for animals we do. its just in west it matters so much.

when ur sitting with hand to mouth, ur not giving much thoughts and feelings of animals. im more concerned with human atrocities first, then the animals later down the line.

+ lobsters do feel pain. its been proven.

On June 26 2009 03:51 YoMeR wrote: is strongly hate unnecessarily brutal treatment such as the shit displayed on that abomination people call a website.

agreed with that part soooo much.

sadly that's the nature of some humans. At least not all people is like that. I wish there would be something i could do for those animals

I posted a similar video a while back and a bunch of people got mad at me for slandering china or something, can't really remember.

I had the same reaction as you - first, WTF, second, NO WAY AM I BUYING FUR.

Plus, the people who are skinning these animals alive are sick fucking bastards imo. I'm not a guy who has some blanket ban on killing animals, but if you are going to kill an animal don't bash them with a stick for 10 minutes till they die or skin them alive. Kill them as quickly and painlessly as possible.

I feel like the people who do this shit are sadistic twisted fucks.

That's disturbing, I lasted about 5 seconds into a video before I decided I had seen enough. As warned the words were strong enough, soooooo disturbing.

so fucking sick

On June 24 2009 12:47 Achoo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 24 2009 11:23 ShouldNotBHere wrote: To my understanding they don't want to slit the animals throats because it gets blood all over the fur and makes a larger mess. i see, then what about grabing a rock and smash their heads, quick and no blood, costs nothing. Problem solved, if you listen closely to the video u can hear them laugh while torturing these animals fucking pigs.

You can see they tried to kill the animal at the start of the video by slamming its head onto the ground which is the correct way to do it but I guess they suck at it so the animals didn't die =[