Optimal Strategy for Turbos? (5 minute levels) - Page 2

Asdf, folding KK preflop is pretty much the worst thing you could do...

Ya, I wouldn't ban Chobo for saying what he said. Folding KK Preflop in low stakes is pretty terrible. Thats how you screw yourself over.

On December 15 2007 06:57 Subaru wrote: Ya, I wouldn't ban Chobo for saying what he said. Folding KK Preflop in low stakes is pretty terrible. Thats how you screw yourself over.

I just fold every hand. I'm in it for the LOL's and the FPP's ^_^

Please who the fuck takes chobopokers side over travis?

Chobopoker never contributes to any discussion, hes basicly just wasting space with his dumb comments everywhere.

On December 15 2007 06:51 Oxy wrote: Asdf, folding KK preflop is pretty much the worst thing you could do...

if you have villains range down to QQ+, AK or maybe AQ,

then no, it really isn't.


that being said, it really doesn't come up that much - I was more trying to make a point saying to be incredibly cautious early than trying to advocate folding KK pre



however, if early on I raised QQ pre in early stages and an unknown goes allin, I almost always am folding.

Optimal strategy for microstakes SNGs is to Sit Out and wait till you get in the money

I don't think he should be banned either.right or wrong. i thought forums were used for players to discuss there opinions and get feedback from other players. Every reader should be able to determine which side of the disagreement that they agree with. anyway just my two cents....

On December 15 2007 10:39 Joe wrote: Optimal strategy for microstakes SNGs is to Sit Out and wait till you get in the money

On December 15 2007 10:40 MJCACE wrote: I don't think he should be banned either.right or wrong. i thought forums were used for players to discuss there opinions and get feedback from other players. Every reader should be able to determine which side of the disagreement that they agree with. anyway just my two cents....

I banned him because he never posts anything helpful, but often posts advice that will in fact be detrimental.


besides, im just a temp ban.
really, when it comes down to it, im too nice

however, if early on I raised QQ pre in early stages and an unknown goes allin, I almost always am folding.

ewwww dont do that.

Fwiw i think i've folded KK in a sng maaaybe 3 times, and its gone i raise to 80 EP at 10/20, solid reg reraises, solid reg rereraises/shoves.

Or solid reg raises EP, i reraises, someone calls/reraises, solid reg who raised first in shoves.

In general though folding JJ+ or AK to randoms is burning money, esp at the really low limits since there are people who will get allin preflop with AT and 55.

so if u have a 60-40 on the first hand of a low stakes turbo sng, you're taking it??

On December 15 2007 12:11 asdf2000 wrote: so if u have a 60-40 on the first hand of a low stakes turbo sng, you're taking it??

why wouldn't he

because there is more value in a 50-50 @ 5 handed than a 60-40 9 handed

not to mention, in the time you wait, there is a very substantial chance you'll get an 80-20


eh I guess after this post im done with this topic

Yes i'd take a 60/40, no im not trying to flip. However when some total random is playing every hand and going crazy, i'd rather make the mistake of ending up in a flip than passing on a 60/40. Again this is where using pokertracker and taking notes becomes useful, even at the 60s there were several casual players who'd mulittable a few times a week who i had the note on 'gets allin pre any pair, A6s etc', there are were several people who i had 'only 3bets KK+ first two levels' on.

Also the more time you wait, the less chips you have and the more likely the really bad donks will have given away all their chips.

Also if you do end up flipping the first hand and double up you are in a good position to cash, if you bust you can just fire up another one. Who cares about roi, all about $/hr!

On December 15 2007 13:02 TwistedEcho wrote: Who cares about roi, all about $/hr!

exactly! which is why i play tight as hell for the first 2/3 of the sng, allowing me to 9table them


but in all seriousness, i probably sound more extreme than I am. I do loosen up and I will have some allins in early stages, or play some hands. they are just all so situation specific i didnt want to get into that at all since makito was just asking for basic turbo strategy

and i can't believe you would take a 60-40 the first hand of a lowstakes turbo

i mean like, $100 turbo sure. $60 turbo maybe.

but comeon the lower stakes turbos are so so horribly bad there is no way taking the 60-40 is more profitable than folding

IMO you cant have that massive edge in icm play even in lowstakes. Maybe I am wrong, cant see a way to calculate this but really sounds quite extreme.

asdf: u can multitable like 16 sngs while playin AQ+, 22+ easily in early stage.. 9 table and playin tight is just like meh are u srs those are slower than FR tables

auffenpuffer: depends on opponent, if they fold too much ur edge is fuckin huge

i never said not to play 22+
in fact I think I said that I generally do try to play them.

are we talking about a 27people MTT or a 180 ppl or like real big MTTs like 500+ ?