LP Car/Automotive Thread

I've never really been a car guy when I was younger, but as I get older I am getting more and more into cars as a hobby. As it stands right now, GTR probably the car I'm trying to motivate myself to be able to afford as my next car and I've been kind of obsessing over it lately. This actually changes all the time. Before it was between Lexus RCF or something like an M3 or 4. My ideal car probably the new NSX but I don't think I'll be able to afford it maybe ever. I also like the idea of a used Lotus Evora, but probably prefer all of those other cars over it.

Anyway what do you think about the Tesla Model S. I mean I don't have anything against Teslas but there is something about fucking explosions going off in the engine that is just so satisfying.

I've wanted a Tesla Model X since it came out. I'm waiting to see how much Tesla advances in the next few years. I've heard a lot about inconsistencies in their build quality, like issues with panel gaps in their cars. They are still a pretty young company. I want to make sure they have all the bugs worked out before I spend $100k on one of their vehicles.

Been a car guy for a very long time and for me I'm not interested in the electric cars at all. Sure they are stupid quick, but the Tesla models are extremely heavy and are made to be comfortable, not sporty, which is what car guys typically want. Comparing a GT-R to a Model S in anything other than a drag race is like apples to oranges. They make no engine noise which is a large part of the drama when driving quickly and they handle like shit if you have any interest in actually going round a corner.

Of course, it is possible to make electric cars that can go round corners, such as the VW ID.R in terms of race cars and the Porsche Taycan is supposedly much better than the Teslas when it comes to handling, but still not my bag. I'd take the 911 in any guise over the Taycan any day.

My old E92 V8 M3 on the dyno

I also had a Mitsubishi Evo 6 as recently as a year ago but had a lot of problems with the car so eventually got rid of it, but I'd happily get myself into an Evo 8 or 9 at some point. This video here really makes me lust after one again actually:

That's how I wanna feel when I put my foot down

^ heh don't think I can pull off an Evo even though I think they are cool.

https://www.sheptrans.com/

"This is the highest mileage GTR in the country" - yeah most of the 100k+ ones are bought and resold in Eastern Europe :D

Electric engines generate more torque than combustion engines but their energy source is heavier, so they will win in acceleration but they will lose in braking and cornering, althought having the engine in each wheel that allows you to control the amount of power on each wheel without the need of complex differentials so I suppose driving electronic aids are far easier to implement in electric cars too which is good news for them in the future.

I didn't know you had an Evo VI Midian, probably my 2nd favourite Evo only behind the Evo 8.

^ Yeah, had it for almost 2 years. Blew up an engine driving to a date with 0 coolant in for ~40 miles. £2k for an engine, >£1k labour to have it fitted. Following engine had a leaking gasket and I sold it before repairing it. Sold it at least £2k cheaper than I should probably but just wanted rid of it. It was good fun while I had it, but just had no luck. My brother has a white Evo 5 and never had any problems with his despite the fact he paid a lot less for his than I did mine. Never lucky...



I have a shitty silver EP3 Civic Type-R premier edition now. It's staying completely stock cause you can only get maybe 40bhp crank horsepower from £2k+ of parts/labour which isn't really worth it and I don't want any more reliability issues. Also they sound wank with aftermarket exhausts imo

Here's some other cars I had, in no particular order:

Renault Sport Clio 200 Cup. Only mod was an Akrapovic catback. Fucking £900+ for 2bhp tops and a slight sound increase. The tips did look cool though.


Ford Focus ST-3 250. Had the Mountune MP275 kit and full Mongoose turbo back. Bought the mods as I hated the car stock. Mods did little to improve the car, it was the actual worst performance car I ever owned.


Renault Sport Megane 250 Cup. This was a much better hot hatch than the above Focus, but did ride kinda harsh and I didn't have the recaro seats. The standard seats were dogshit.


Ford Focus ST-3 225. First car I ever bought. Had something like 12,000 miles when I bought it. A 2009 model in 2011. Much better than the ST250 which replaced this model.


The first of two E92 M3s I owned which I bought with Stars concierge service (RIP that option). Obv way more performance than the hot hatches above, nice naturally aspirated V8 sound and linear power delivery, way more upmarket interior etc. This one stayed totally stock


The second E92 M3 with only mods being the Meisterschaft GT2 full exhaust (This cost £3.3k with import taxes etc!), M performance kidney grilles and M performance carbon fibre interior trim, which by itself was like £1k lol. It was mentally loud and I loved it. Sold this and replaced with the ST250 when poker started to go downhill as I wanted something with cheaper running costs. Sadly I lost almost £5k in depreciation in 1 year on the ST250 (It was <1 year old when I got it with like 8k miles on it) and I spent a further £2.5-3k on mods on the ST and I still hated it. Worst mistake ever really.

Nice, I've also had multiple Clio RS (MK2s tho) and I own a Focus ST now, why do you hate yours?

I like mine a lot, its stock so it just has has a blow off valve, I'm over my modding phase I suppose I'd upgrade the handling but Mexican roads are awful for stiff suspensions so nope

On August 25 2020 04:44 Baalim wrote: Nice, I've also had multiple Clio RS (MK2s tho) and I own a Focus ST now, why do you hate yours? I like mine a lot, its stock so it just has has a blow off valve, I'm over my modding phase I suppose I'd upgrade the handling but Mexican roads are awful for stiff suspensions so nope

I take it you mean the ST250 shape? I know there was a facelift released after I had mine, maybe that fixed some issues. I quite liked the ST225 with the old 2.5 engine, but even that did suffer some of the issues below which I found ruined the ST250 as a performance car

The electronically assisted steering feels noticeably artificial compared to every other car I've owned. It also seems to move about in my hands too much when driving over bumps etc, sometimes feel like it's pulling me into the curb even when I'm not accelerating hard.
Obviously it torquesteers a good amount under acceleration too, certainly more than any of the other FWD hot hatches I've owned. The Megane250 barely had any at all and performance figures were about the same.
Seating position too high.
Hated that fake induction noise you get through the speakers.
The traction was wank even stock, I could not go full throttle in first gear even on dry roads often times.
Hated the peddle feel.
Don't think it handled well - I was following a friend who was in a RB5 impreza to some car show and over 1 roundabout I lost something like 4 car lengths to him on that 1 roundabout alone. I mean I'm by no means a racing driver but the difference in handling between the 2 cars was incredible even though I had premium new tyres on the car.

I struggle to think of anything positive to say about it tbh. At least with the 225 the steering wasn't electronic and felt good, the traction was better, the engine sounded good and it didn't appear to handle any worse.

I bought the ST250 largely due to positive reviews, but the more time I've spent watching videos and being more and more interested in cars the more I realise that every review for every brand new car is a positive review. They are meaningless. I should have test drove the thing and a bunch of other different cars before making the change. Or just kept the E92 M3 that I had prior.

On August 24 2020 22:19 Spitfiree wrote: "This is the highest mileage GTR in the country" - yeah most of the 100k+ ones are bought and resold in Eastern Europe :D

I've always actually been curious if owning a car like a BMW or Mercedes that requires servicing/has reliability issues is easier in countries with lower cost-of-living since the labor cost is lower.

Not a car expert but thought I'd share since I started this thread. 2.4L Acura ILX with manual gearbox. I mainly chose that car since it is pretty cheap especially on the used market and extremely low maintenance and has reasonable performance. I'm not really a hardcore car guy like Midian so I didn't mind how the handling is designed for comfort rather than performance. I chose this over the Civic Si because I didn't want to look too ricer-ish lol. I had the car for about a year and more or less I'm happy with it.

I kind of liked that it had the manual transmission, but honestly I have heard great things about the Dual Clutch in the TLX both in terms of reliability and performance. What do you guys think about Dual-Clutch Transmissions? To me it feels a bit silly going with a manual transmission when these things shift far better than you can. I was actually talking to an Uber driver with a similar year TLX and he was raving about how well it shifts. He actually gets far better gas mileage than I do despite being heavier.

Other notes I bought the car in a Southern state since I didn't want to deal with rust issues going forward, especially on a used vehicle. I stopped by MGM National Harbor on the drive up and played a session of poker there and it covered most of my travel expenses for the trip which was nice.

Also used a third-party company for my pre-purchase car inspection since I was basically buying the car sight unseen and I was impressed with how professional my guy was and I'd highly recommend for any Americans buying a used car. (https://lemonsquad.com)

I've only owned one car with a dual clutch transmission. It was just a Seat Ibiza FR DSG 140bhp that I used to commute to/from work, and it was great for that. In stop/start traffic or just cruising a dual clutch is great. No need to constantly put clutch in, move into 1st, roll forward a couple of meters, stop and move back to neutral over and over again.

In terms of driving quickly for pleasure it's a lot more entertaining to row the gears on a decent manual transmission imo, particularly in cars that don't have a tremendous amount of power where you simply can't keep up unless you're extremely skilled. I can't imagine driving a tuned GT-R or a 911 GT3 RS or something of that ilk with a manual transmission. Obv those cars don't even come with manual transmissions from the factory, but if I were to drive quick in a car with that kind of performance with a manual I'm just gonna be bashing the limiter or in the wrong gear a lot of the time. No human, no matter how good, can match the shifting speed of a dual clutch. For me though, for most cars on the road the performance improvement isn't really worth the trade off of the involvement with a manual.

However, there's also the question of how good the manual transmission is. One of the things I like most about my EP3 Civic Type-R is the manual transmission, it's a joy to use. The manual in my Evo 6 was also a joy to use. The manual in my E92 M3s were the weakest part of that car and if I am to ever own another one of those cars I'd get the DCT option just because that manual was shit.

And also the question of how good the automatic gearbox is also. A car I've lusted after for years is the E60 M5 or E63 M6, largely for that 5.0L V10 sound, but in the UK they only come in SMG options and that gearbox is supposedly extremely jerky when travelling slow and also very unreliable. That gearbox is old technology though and modern dual clutch transmissions are far better. Another similar car I lusted after with a shit gearbox is the W204 C63 AMG. I probably would have had one of those instead of my 2nd E92 M3 if it wasn't for the gearboxes being old and slow.

So for me I would choose dual clutch if I'm mostly using the car for commuting, the manual option sucks, the car's performance warrants the dual clutch option over the manual option or if I am drag racing/tracking the car and care about the addition few tenths gained. Otherwise, I would go for the manual.

On August 25 2020 16:16 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2020 22:19 Spitfiree wrote: "This is the highest mileage GTR in the country" - yeah most of the 100k+ ones are bought and resold in Eastern Europe :D I've always actually been curious if owning a car like a BMW or Mercedes that requires servicing/has reliability issues is easier in countries with lower cost-of-living since the labor cost is lower.

I'd say generally - no. I feel like every 3rd car here is exactly a BMW or a Mercedes so the market also has shittons of supply in terms of parts/service but they still charge extra. On top of that its extremely risky to buy a 2ndhand car of that class simply because all of them have fake data and they are all promoted in the 100k to 140k kilometers area but are in fact on at least 300-400k+. Now newer models cannot be faked due to the data being pushed into a centralized manufacturer DB, but the average dude here doesn't know that. Also the cars themselves are more expensive compared to Western Europe for example and much much much more expensive compared to the US ( Actually considering importing a car from the US even with taxes and transportation its cheaper )

All that being said, I'd feel safer buying something new for 25-40k$ rather than spending 20k$ on a 2ndhand BMW/Mercedes that ends up making your life miserable. Plus all new cars are pretty good,

On August 25 2020 14:12 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: I take it you mean the ST250 shape? I know there was a facelift released after I had mine, maybe that fixed some issues. I quite liked the ST225 with the old 2.5 engine, but even that did suffer some of the issues below which I found ruined the ST250 as a performance car The electronically assisted steering feels noticeably artificial compared to every other car I've owned. It also seems to move about in my hands too much when driving over bumps etc, sometimes feel like it's pulling me into the curb even when I'm not accelerating hard. Obviously it torquesteers a good amount under acceleration too, certainly more than any of the other FWD hot hatches I've owned. The Megane250 barely had any at all and performance figures were about the same. Seating position too high. Hated that fake induction noise you get through the speakers. The traction was wank even stock, I could not go full throttle in first gear even on dry roads often times. Hated the peddle feel. Don't think it handled well - I was following a friend who was in a RB5 impreza to some car show and over 1 roundabout I lost something like 4 car lengths to him on that 1 roundabout alone. I mean I'm by no means a racing driver but the difference in handling between the 2 cars was incredible even though I had premium new tyres on the car. I struggle to think of anything positive to say about it tbh. At least with the 225 the steering wasn't electronic and felt good, the traction was better, the engine sounded good and it didn't appear to handle any worse. I bought the ST250 largely due to positive reviews, but the more time I've spent watching videos and being more and more interested in cars the more I realise that every review for every brand new car is a positive review. They are meaningless. I should have test drove the thing and a bunch of other different cars before making the change. Or just kept the E92 M3 that I had prior.

Yeah I own a ST250.

-The electronically assisted direction is interesting, it's smooth and very precise it makes you feel like you hit perfectly every apex but at the same time it makes it feel disconnected and like a heavier car, I get sudden oversteer mid-corner its not very strong but it feels sudden and non progressive, not sure if its because of the steering through, I've never felt that pulling to curb sensation you talk about.
- It has very little torque steer, compare it to a bigger turbo hatchback like the Mazdaspeed 3 and you will see what torque steer feels like.
- What noise through the speakers?
- acceleration traction is exclusively a tire thing (guess alignment too), I replace the stock tires for better ones in any car.
- What about the pedals specifically? a firm brake would be good but its a rare thing t find in street cars.
- You shouldn't be losing 4 cars in just 1 roundabout to an old impreza, perhaps you were overdriving it and understeering due to excessive acceleration, long tight corners like a roundabout on a FF car are tricky and require discipine in the acceleration pedal.
- I like seating high, driving in the streets is more like a rally than a track, high and close to the wheel is how you should be seated.


My complains about the ST250 is the pedal position, but again that is normal since 90%+ of people dont left foot brake or heel-toe.
The ECU shuts down acceleration if you press both pedals at the same time hard for a few seconds... this makes left foot braking a pain in the ass since you can only do it midly.


But yeah if you compare it mostly to an M3 ofcourse its going to be dissapointing but you gotta keep the price in mind.

On August 25 2020 16:16 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2020 22:19 Spitfiree wrote: "This is the highest mileage GTR in the country" - yeah most of the 100k+ ones are bought and resold in Eastern Europe :D I've always actually been curious if owning a car like a BMW or Mercedes that requires servicing/has reliability issues is easier in countries with lower cost-of-living since the labor cost is lower.

BMWs and Mercedes are way more reliable than cheap cars, their maintenence cost is higher mostly due to the price of the parts.

Cars in poor countries actually cost more than in 1st world countries due to heavy taxation, for example in México you can't just import a car from the US and even less so if its used, only in the states in the border can and thats why you would see a lot of used cars there bought from the US because thats much cheaper than buy in the controlled auto market in México, this also happens with electronics (TV, Phones, computers etc) and that is without taking into account the average income discrepancy between countries.

Cheap labor costs things are seen in other things for example, all the american DUI culture doesn't exist in here, nobody fixes their own house, car or build their own porch, or even mow their lawns, we hire people because its much cheaper, every middle-class family has a maid, often the maid lives in a back room in the house 5 days a week, years ago when I lived with my parents for a time we had 2 maids, one living in, another came in daily and a 3rd one twice a week that only ironed clothing and we weren't even high class, just upper middle class.

Random fact that might surprise you, dishwasher machines don't exist here, poor people wash their dishes by hand, and middleclass + have maids

On August 25 2020 20:13 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2020 14:12 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: I take it you mean the ST250 shape? I know there was a facelift released after I had mine, maybe that fixed some issues. I quite liked the ST225 with the old 2.5 engine, but even that did suffer some of the issues below which I found ruined the ST250 as a performance car The electronically assisted steering feels noticeably artificial compared to every other car I've owned. It also seems to move about in my hands too much when driving over bumps etc, sometimes feel like it's pulling me into the curb even when I'm not accelerating hard. Obviously it torquesteers a good amount under acceleration too, certainly more than any of the other FWD hot hatches I've owned. The Megane250 barely had any at all and performance figures were about the same. Seating position too high. Hated that fake induction noise you get through the speakers. The traction was wank even stock, I could not go full throttle in first gear even on dry roads often times. Hated the peddle feel. Don't think it handled well - I was following a friend who was in a RB5 impreza to some car show and over 1 roundabout I lost something like 4 car lengths to him on that 1 roundabout alone. I mean I'm by no means a racing driver but the difference in handling between the 2 cars was incredible even though I had premium new tyres on the car. I struggle to think of anything positive to say about it tbh. At least with the 225 the steering wasn't electronic and felt good, the traction was better, the engine sounded good and it didn't appear to handle any worse. I bought the ST250 largely due to positive reviews, but the more time I've spent watching videos and being more and more interested in cars the more I realise that every review for every brand new car is a positive review. They are meaningless. I should have test drove the thing and a bunch of other different cars before making the change. Or just kept the E92 M3 that I had prior. Yeah I own a ST250. -The electronically assisted direction is interesting, it's smooth and very precise it makes you feel like you hit perfectly every apex but at the same time it makes it feel disconnected and like a heavier car, I get sudden oversteer mid-corner its not very strong but it feels sudden and non progressive, not sure if its because of the steering through, I've never felt that pulling to curb sensation you talk about. - It has very little torque steer, compare it to a bigger turbo hatchback like the Mazdaspeed 3 and you will see what torque steer feels like. - What noise through the speakers? - acceleration traction is exclusively a tire thing (guess alignment too), I replace the stock tires for better ones in any car. - What about the pedals specifically? a firm brake would be good but its a rare thing t find in street cars. - You shouldn't be losing 4 cars in just 1 roundabout to an old impreza, perhaps you were overdriving it and understeering due to excessive acceleration, long tight corners like a roundabout on a FF car are tricky and require discipine in the acceleration pedal. - I like seating high, driving in the streets is more like a rally than a track, high and close to the wheel is how you should be seated. My complains about the ST250 is the pedal position, but again that is normal since 90%+ of people dont left foot brake or heel-toe. The ECU shuts down acceleration if you press both pedals at the same time hard for a few seconds... this makes left foot braking a pain in the ass since you can only do it midly. But yeah if you compare it mostly to an M3 ofcourse its going to be dissapointing but you gotta keep the price in mind.

Clearly our experiences are different. Perhaps you have the facelift one? I mean everything I said is how I felt it, so if you have had different experiences it has to be because of something. The steering definitely pulled hard on mine on potholes, it was sketchy at times and the torque steer was a lot worse than in all of the other hot hatches I've had. I've heard the Mazda 3 MPS is bad for it, but I haven't tried that car so can't compare to that, but my ST250 was much worse than the prior ST225 and all the other hot hatches I've owned. I had good new tyres on, so traction issues wasn't due to that, again it was much worse than all of the other hot hatches I've owned. When following my friends RB5 it seemed I was suffering understeer before even getting on power so it wasn't due to that, it just seemed reluctant to get into the apex. My line or steering input might have been off, but I am confident that every other car I've owned above would have performed better with the same inputs.

https://www.motor1.com/news/34263/for...g-engine-sound-in-the-focus-st-video/

This is the fake engine noise I mean. If you got above a certain throttle position the engine pipes fake noises into the cabin. Unsure if perhaps the ST250 in your country don't have these from factory, but it's impossible not to notice it if you have it.

Happy you enjoy your car, that's all that matters at the end of the day, but to me I really wasn't a fan and thought it was a giant waste of cash. Not even comparing just to the M3, to every other hot hatch I've had aswell.

On August 25 2020 22:43 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2020 16:16 hiems wrote:   On August 24 2020 22:19 Spitfiree wrote: "This is the highest mileage GTR in the country" - yeah most of the 100k+ ones are bought and resold in Eastern Europe :D I've always actually been curious if owning a car like a BMW or Mercedes that requires servicing/has reliability issues is easier in countries with lower cost-of-living since the labor cost is lower. BMWs and Mercedes are way more reliable than cheap cars, their maintenence cost is higher mostly due to the price of the parts. Cars in poor countries actually cost more than in 1st world countries due to heavy taxation, for example in México you can't just import a car from the US and even less so if its used, only in the states in the border can and thats why you would see a lot of used cars there bought from the US because thats much cheaper than buy in the controlled auto market in México, this also happens with electronics (TV, Phones, computers etc) and that is without taking into account the average income discrepancy between countries. Cheap labor costs things are seen in other things for example, all the american DUI culture doesn't exist in here, nobody fixes their own house, car or build their own porch, or even mow their lawns, we hire people because its much cheaper, every middle-class family has a maid, often the maid lives in a back room in the house 5 days a week, years ago when I lived with my parents for a time we had 2 maids, one living in, another came in daily and a 3rd one twice a week that only ironed clothing and we weren't even high class, just upper middle class. Random fact that might surprise you, dishwasher machines don't exist here, poor people wash their dishes by hand, and middleclass + have maids

Yeah I knew that about import taxes on cars/electronics. I actually spent a decent amount of time in Latin America. I guess you're right about the parts still being expensive.

I'd love to have a maid/personal chef one day. I'm actually kind of obsessed with cost-of-living arbitrage and fantasize about retiring in a low-cost of living country all the time.

On August 26 2020 01:33 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2020 20:13 Baalim wrote:   On August 25 2020 14:12 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: I take it you mean the ST250 shape? I know there was a facelift released after I had mine, maybe that fixed some issues. I quite liked the ST225 with the old 2.5 engine, but even that did suffer some of the issues below which I found ruined the ST250 as a performance car The electronically assisted steering feels noticeably artificial compared to every other car I've owned. It also seems to move about in my hands too much when driving over bumps etc, sometimes feel like it's pulling me into the curb even when I'm not accelerating hard. Obviously it torquesteers a good amount under acceleration too, certainly more than any of the other FWD hot hatches I've owned. The Megane250 barely had any at all and performance figures were about the same. Seating position too high. Hated that fake induction noise you get through the speakers. The traction was wank even stock, I could not go full throttle in first gear even on dry roads often times. Hated the peddle feel. Don't think it handled well - I was following a friend who was in a RB5 impreza to some car show and over 1 roundabout I lost something like 4 car lengths to him on that 1 roundabout alone. I mean I'm by no means a racing driver but the difference in handling between the 2 cars was incredible even though I had premium new tyres on the car. I struggle to think of anything positive to say about it tbh. At least with the 225 the steering wasn't electronic and felt good, the traction was better, the engine sounded good and it didn't appear to handle any worse. I bought the ST250 largely due to positive reviews, but the more time I've spent watching videos and being more and more interested in cars the more I realise that every review for every brand new car is a positive review. They are meaningless. I should have test drove the thing and a bunch of other different cars before making the change. Or just kept the E92 M3 that I had prior. Yeah I own a ST250. -The electronically assisted direction is interesting, it's smooth and very precise it makes you feel like you hit perfectly every apex but at the same time it makes it feel disconnected and like a heavier car, I get sudden oversteer mid-corner its not very strong but it feels sudden and non progressive, not sure if its because of the steering through, I've never felt that pulling to curb sensation you talk about. - It has very little torque steer, compare it to a bigger turbo hatchback like the Mazdaspeed 3 and you will see what torque steer feels like. - What noise through the speakers? - acceleration traction is exclusively a tire thing (guess alignment too), I replace the stock tires for better ones in any car. - What about the pedals specifically? a firm brake would be good but its a rare thing t find in street cars. - You shouldn't be losing 4 cars in just 1 roundabout to an old impreza, perhaps you were overdriving it and understeering due to excessive acceleration, long tight corners like a roundabout on a FF car are tricky and require discipine in the acceleration pedal. - I like seating high, driving in the streets is more like a rally than a track, high and close to the wheel is how you should be seated. My complains about the ST250 is the pedal position, but again that is normal since 90%+ of people dont left foot brake or heel-toe. The ECU shuts down acceleration if you press both pedals at the same time hard for a few seconds... this makes left foot braking a pain in the ass since you can only do it midly. But yeah if you compare it mostly to an M3 ofcourse its going to be dissapointing but you gotta keep the price in mind. Clearly our experiences are different. Perhaps you have the facelift one? I mean everything I said is how I felt it, so if you have had different experiences it has to be because of something. The steering definitely pulled hard on mine on potholes, it was sketchy at times and the torque steer was a lot worse than in all of the other hot hatches I've had. I've heard the Mazda 3 MPS is bad for it, but I haven't tried that car so can't compare to that, but my ST250 was much worse than the prior ST225 and all the other hot hatches I've owned. I had good new tyres on, so traction issues wasn't due to that, again it was much worse than all of the other hot hatches I've owned. When following my friends RB5 it seemed I was suffering understeer before even getting on power so it wasn't due to that, it just seemed reluctant to get into the apex. My line or steering input might have been off, but I am confident that every other car I've owned above would have performed better with the same inputs. https://www.motor1.com/news/34263/for...g-engine-sound-in-the-focus-st-video/ This is the fake engine noise I mean. If you got above a certain throttle position the engine pipes fake noises into the cabin. Unsure if perhaps the ST250 in your country don't have these from factory, but it's impossible not to notice it if you have it. Happy you enjoy your car, that's all that matters at the end of the day, but to me I really wasn't a fan and thought it was a giant waste of cash. Not even comparing just to the M3, to every other hot hatch I've had aswell.

nah its the old ST250, I remember Top Gear made a hothatch comparison, I think they compared a GTI, a Megane and the ST and it was close.

Oh I forgot, what I absolutely hate about it is the turning radius what normally would be a U turn has to be done in 3 moves.

You used to have an Evo too that you rallied didn't you? It's weird how different our experiences are... The turning circle in my Evo and M3 was way way way worse than it was in my ST!

Tbh I find that the Top Gear reviews (And basically every other publication) should be taken with a pinch of salt. It seems virtually every car gets a positive review. My cynical brain tells me that it is that way because it's in the best interest of both the car manufacturers and the publication to highlight strengths of a new vehicle and ignore it's weaknesses. Group tests are also virtually always close since they don't really want to shit on any one of the cars. The worst reviewer is Rory Reid, who in his first ever review of a car on Top Gear UK reviewed the newest shape Focus RS and he basically called it the best car on sale. In his 2nd review he reviewed a Tesla Model X and guess what, best car on sale apparently. It feels so fake it was cringe. Don't get me wrong I'm sure both of those cars are good cars in their segment but it was so exaggerated how much praise he put on those cars.

Several years ago Chris Harris was banned from reviewing Ferraris because he outed them for supposedly using tuned versions of the cars customers got when lending them to people to review. If people are gonna trash cars in their reviews then the manufacturer won't give them the cars to review anymore and before long the automotive journalist is without a job.

In my experience, the Megane was a much more focused and better driving car than the ST, better peddle feel and position, lower seating position and more taut suspension, less torquesteer despite bigger turbo, probably actually marginally quicker than the ST when moving, had better traction despite being on the same compound (I always used the Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric 2s back then - since then I'm more of a Michelin Pilot Super Sport/PS4 guy, but the Goodyears were solid tyres overall), but also it was a lot harder and much less comfortable - the reason I eventually sold it. It was more racecar than the ST which to me actually just feels like a normal Focus but with a more powerful engine in it. The ST225's engine was also much more special so it felt like going backwards to me. Though another gripe I had with that Megane250 was the engine sound, which is the worst sounding engine I've ever experienced. I mean the ST250 doesn't make a very inspiring sound either to me, especially with the sound symposer getting in the way, but that Megane engine basically sounds like a dull vacuum cleaner, only amplified if you get an aftermarket exhaust on it.

Midian what do you think about the Civic Type R vs WRX STI (I think they are cooler than just the WRX), and the Golf Type R?

Even if you say you have to take car reviews with a grain of salt, Civic Type R seems universally praised driving wise. The looks are a bit much for me though.

On August 26 2020 16:00 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: You used to have an Evo too that you rallied didn't you? It's weird how different our experiences are... The turning circle in my Evo and M3 was way way way worse than it was in my ST! Tbh I find that the Top Gear reviews (And basically every other publication) should be taken with a pinch of salt. It seems virtually every car gets a positive review. My cynical brain tells me that it is that way because it's in the best interest of both the car manufacturers and the publication to highlight strengths of a new vehicle and ignore it's weaknesses. Group tests are also virtually always close since they don't really want to shit on any one of the cars. The worst reviewer is Rory Reid, who in his first ever review of a car on Top Gear UK reviewed the newest shape Focus RS and he basically called it the best car on sale. In his 2nd review he reviewed a Tesla Model X and guess what, best car on sale apparently. It feels so fake it was cringe. Don't get me wrong I'm sure both of those cars are good cars in their segment but it was so exaggerated how much praise he put on those cars. Several years ago Chris Harris was banned from reviewing Ferraris because he outed them for supposedly using tuned versions of the cars customers got when lending them to people to review. If people are gonna trash cars in their reviews then the manufacturer won't give them the cars to review anymore and before long the automotive journalist is without a job. In my experience, the Megane was a much more focused and better driving car than the ST, better peddle feel and position, lower seating position and more taut suspension, less torquesteer despite bigger turbo, probably actually marginally quicker than the ST when moving, had better traction despite being on the same compound (I always used the Goodyear Eagle Asymmetric 2s back then - since then I'm more of a Michelin Pilot Super Sport/PS4 guy, but the Goodyears were solid tyres overall), but also it was a lot harder and much less comfortable - the reason I eventually sold it. It was more racecar than the ST which to me actually just feels like a normal Focus but with a more powerful engine in it. The ST225's engine was also much more special so it felt like going backwards to me. Though another gripe I had with that Megane250 was the engine sound, which is the worst sounding engine I've ever experienced. I mean the ST250 doesn't make a very inspiring sound either to me, especially with the sound symposer getting in the way, but that Megane engine basically sounds like a dull vacuum cleaner, only amplified if you get an aftermarket exhaust on it.

No, my rally car is a Clio RS MK2, rallying in an Evo is expensive, the Clio is getting very old now though and I'm planning on getting a turbo rally car since our races are usually at high altitudes so the performance difference is massive, but on the other hand, turbos on racing conditions are blowing up and causing issues very often.

I hate the price/performance ratio on those tires, the Michelin Pilot Sport are very good but you can find tires with alike performance for 1/3rd of the price, I usually dig the tire scores on TireRack when its time to change tires.

On August 26 2020 18:02 hiems wrote: Midian what do you think about the Civic Type R vs WRX STI (I think they are cooler than just the WRX), and the Golf Type R? Even if you say you have to take car reviews with a grain of salt, Civic Type R seems universally praised driving wise. The looks are a bit much for me though.

I take it you mean the latest shape Civic Type R? The one I have is a 2005 and I've never driven any Subarus or the Golf R.

Obv main differences are that the Civic Type R is front wheel drive and the other two are four wheel drive. Though front wheel drive cars are a lot more competent these days with fancy diffs and trickery to reduce/eliminate torque steer and improve handling so that difference is probably not massively relevant.

Yeah reviews praise all of those cars in some way, but agreed the Civic does tend to get more praise lavished on it. Most comments seem to suggest that Golf R is a very grown up car, the Civic Type R is the opposite with it's child like design and more raw suspension set up. The WRX STI somewhere in the middle of those 2 cars in terms of how civilised it is. I believe the Civic is faster on track than either the WRX STI or the Golf R. I know someone who has a 500bhp Golf R, in fact it's the guy who bought my old Evo off of me and he says the Golf R is an extremely fast and competent car, but he finds it boring even at that power level. I think modern cars are just made that way tbh, they are built to eliminate NVH and be as comfortable as they can be and that takes away from some of the raw feel and excitement you get with older cars.

If you're in the market for any of those 3 cars you gotta spend some time test driving them all to figure out what you personally like about them and don't go purely by reviews. Not just because I think reviews are often way too kind on the cars but also because which cars you enjoy is a very subjective thing and you might hate the Civic's hard suspension, you might hate the Golf R's DSG gearbox or the WRX STI's exhaust note or any number of things.

If it was me personally looking in that market I would take the M235i over any of the above by a long way, or get something older and more fun that doesn't lose so much in depreciation

In terms of fun of driving always take an AWD over an FWD... and then by transmission, always take a manual over a pseudo secuential, so STI > Golf .R > Civic Type R.

Yeah new cars are more boring than old cars even if they are faster, the perfect example being the GTR R35 it beats most cars in the track but is boring as fuck.

Midian if you enjoy cars so much you should try entering some kind of competition at amateur level, enter some shitty Miata cup, rallying or buy a shifter kart, you will love it and you will start to find your skill and bravery limits which is simply too reckless to do on open roads in street cars, after that you will feel that there isn't much point in spending 2k in a fucking exhaust for 0.5% power gain to be mostly in traffic and for that amount you can buy the shifter and you will be scared shitless how fast that thing is.

On August 27 2020 13:20 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: Show nested quote + On August 26 2020 18:02 hiems wrote: Midian what do you think about the Civic Type R vs WRX STI (I think they are cooler than just the WRX), and the Golf Type R? Even if you say you have to take car reviews with a grain of salt, Civic Type R seems universally praised driving wise. The looks are a bit much for me though. I take it you mean the latest shape Civic Type R? The one I have is a 2005 and I've never driven any Subarus or the Golf R. Obv main differences are that the Civic Type R is front wheel drive and the other two are four wheel drive. Though front wheel drive cars are a lot more competent these days with fancy diffs and trickery to reduce/eliminate torque steer and improve handling so that difference is probably not massively relevant. Yeah reviews praise all of those cars in some way, but agreed the Civic does tend to get more praise lavished on it. Most comments seem to suggest that Golf R is a very grown up car, the Civic Type R is the opposite with it's child like design and more raw suspension set up. The WRX STI somewhere in the middle of those 2 cars in terms of how civilised it is. I believe the Civic is faster on track than either the WRX STI or the Golf R. I know someone who has a 500bhp Golf R, in fact it's the guy who bought my old Evo off of me and he says the Golf R is an extremely fast and competent car, but he finds it boring even at that power level. I think modern cars are just made that way tbh, they are built to eliminate NVH and be as comfortable as they can be and that takes away from some of the raw feel and excitement you get with older cars. If you're in the market for any of those 3 cars you gotta spend some time test driving them all to figure out what you personally like about them and don't go purely by reviews. Not just because I think reviews are often way too kind on the cars but also because which cars you enjoy is a very subjective thing and you might hate the Civic's hard suspension, you might hate the Golf R's DSG gearbox or the WRX STI's exhaust note or any number of things. If it was me personally looking in that market I would take the M235i over any of the above by a long way, or get something older and more fun that doesn't lose so much in depreciation

Yeah the new one. People seem to rave about how they got rid of the torque steer on the CivicType R fwiw. I could see myself driving STI, Golf Type R, EvoX, or even these old r32 gtrs as my next car(did some revised financial calculations and shouldn't get a r35 until I am older). I just started getting interested in cars in the last couple of years though and with alot of those I feel a bit of pressure to know alot of stuff and "be a car guy" with the cars I mentioned as some of them are a bit hardcore. I'm probably not in the market for a car for at least a few years though, I just made this thread because the politics thread is ppl just shitting on each other haha.

On August 27 2020 20:00 Baalim wrote: In terms of fun of driving always take an AWD over an FWD... and then by transmission, always take a manual over a pseudo secuential, so STI > Golf .R > Civic Type R. Yeah new cars are more boring than old cars even if they are faster, the perfect example being the GTR R35 it beats most cars in the track but is boring as fuck. Midian if you enjoy cars so much you should try entering some kind of competition at amateur level, enter some shitty Miata cup, rallying or buy a shifter kart, you will love it and you will start to find your skill and bravery limits which is simply too reckless to do on open roads in street cars, after that you will feel that there isn't much point in spending 2k in a fucking exhaust for 0.5% power gain to be mostly in traffic and for that amount you can buy the shifter and you will be scared shitless how fast that thing is.

fwd is cheaper, lol.

Me personally I feel like there's more to enjoying driving than being a 1337 driver. GT-R -> Grand Touring - Racing.

On August 27 2020 20:00 Baalim wrote: In terms of fun of driving always take an AWD over an FWD... and then by transmission, always take a manual over a pseudo secuential, so STI > Golf .R > Civic Type R. Yeah new cars are more boring than old cars even if they are faster, the perfect example being the GTR R35 it beats most cars in the track but is boring as fuck. Midian if you enjoy cars so much you should try entering some kind of competition at amateur level, enter some shitty Miata cup, rallying or buy a shifter kart, you will love it and you will start to find your skill and bravery limits which is simply too reckless to do on open roads in street cars, after that you will feel that there isn't much point in spending 2k in a fucking exhaust for 0.5% power gain to be mostly in traffic and for that amount you can buy the shifter and you will be scared shitless how fast that thing is.

I did look at getting into racing at one point but never went through with it. Money and time weren't on my side by the time I started to look into it, but I get what you're saying. Maybe one day

btw since you're german, have you driven the nordshleife?

edit : nvm problem solved

changing your brake pads for the 1st time is always a bitch and if you did it pre-youtube era it was worse.



I'm looking to buy a Pick-up truck for work and I never knew they were that expensive and how much they retained value wtf... I'm probably going to get a 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 or something like that

I have a friend that is obsessed with pickups that would sell you all day that the Ford F-150 is a better pickup than anything in that class. If pushed he will admit that pretty much any pickup on the market these days will be pretty tough but Ford is the best in almost every pickup category. He isn't just a Ford fanboy either he knows the statistics of everything and can compare down to the last detail.

On March 18 2021 22:01 Baalim wrote: changing your brake pads for the 1st time is always a bitch and if you did it pre-youtube era it was worse. I'm looking to buy a Pick-up truck for work and I never knew they were that expensive and how much they retained value wtf... I'm probably going to get a 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 or something like that

Yea they are not cheap even used. Unless you can get away with a 4cyl truck with basic features.

On March 20 2021 02:17 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On March 18 2021 22:01 Baalim wrote: changing your brake pads for the 1st time is always a bitch and if you did it pre-youtube era it was worse. I'm looking to buy a Pick-up truck for work and I never knew they were that expensive and how much they retained value wtf... I'm probably going to get a 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 or something like that Yea they are not cheap even used. Unless you can get away with a 4cyl truck with basic features.

nah I'll carry heavy and big shit so I can't buy those pseudo-pickup cars, I can't even get a double cabin one which sucks because you can only fit 2 ppl.

On March 19 2021 00:59 RiKD wrote: I have a friend that is obsessed with pickups that would sell you all day that the Ford F-150 is a better pickup than anything in that class. If pushed he will admit that pretty much any pickup on the market these days will be pretty tough but Ford is the best in almost every pickup category. He isn't just a Ford fanboy either he knows the statistics of everything and can compare down to the last detail.

Well apparently in older models since I'm looking for a 2014ish one seems to be basically the Chevy Silverado vs Dodge Ram 1500 and the F-150.

The F-150 is the better looking of the three but its like 1k more than the others

T a c o m a

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Owned a GTR R35 for 6-9 months in 2009. Was extremely fast and extremely boring like Baal said. By the time you are approaching any kind of limit in the car you are doing something horrifyingly dangerous/illegal. Sounded nice though. Bounced around a lot of vehicles in my time. Had an Evo 8 for a few years in my early 20's. Definitely my favorite car to drive in my memory but it's too stiff for me as an old man now (34).

Currently in a 2017 VW GTI 6-speed w/ manual gearbox and I have to say the driving experience is magnificent. So smooth but still connected to the road. Would highly recommend and they are very affordable. Think I got mine for like $18k new. Also if you want more power you're one ECU flash away from a lot more power. Just gotta be careful because you'll be burning up tires just going from 1st to 2nd ^_^

Stock photos but mine looks just like this outside and in:

yea maybe your right about the gtr. idk tho I might actually like the boring dct transmission lol. It's like a solver-car haha. If I'm at at point where I can responsibly afford a GTR and decide it's too boring on the test drive would probably get something like a Lotus or some r1cer car.(not close to this right now tho haha)

Would you guys rather have Supra or the new Nissan Z? Also would you rather have something like the gr86

What a pain to upload any pic.

Mine is similar to this one https://www.google.com/search?q=musta...1440&bih=707#imgrc=RFuc0WTXLtmThM


Or google: mustang 1967 cabrio frost blue

Thinking about buying the newest VW T-Roc coming out in 2-3 months, anyone drove that?

Poll: Does Loco own a car?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Ebike/Scooter/<150cc bike

I'm thinking of changing my focus ST 2013 soon its getting old but wtf is going on with car prices... gotta lookup a car-price inflation corrected chart because this increase feels odd

im thinking of getting a new car too, need to upgrade my current toyota, trying to get a used lexus before i buy a new tesla in maybe 2-3years

I'm thinking of a used WRX STI

On November 01 2021 23:15 Baalim wrote: I'm thinking of changing my focus ST 2013 soon its getting old but wtf is going on with car prices... gotta lookup a car-price inflation corrected chart because this increase feels odd

So I just sold a used 2020 corolla for a profit to CARMAX. I bought it brand new for 20k out the door at the start of the pandemic. There's a cool aftermarket addon that converts the car into autopilot using all the drivers assist features. Sold it for 25k because I live 1.5 miles from the office and realized I dont need a car with autopilot since I dont make cross country trips anymore.

I'm thinking of changing to a rav4 hybrid cause I need to carry a bunch of random shit and I need the space lol.

The new plug in hybrid rav4 prime seems pretty cool. I actually got the idea for my current car Acura ILX 2.4 manual from this youtuber redline reviews and he recently switched to it.

On November 02 2021 02:12 Baalim wrote: I'm thinking of a used WRX STI

Looked up prices in Mexico, alot more affordable than I thought. I always imagined even driving an STI you'd become a target for robberies and shit in alot of LA countries.

On November 02 2021 04:43 hiems wrote: Looked up prices in Mexico, alot more affordable than I thought. I always imagined even driving an STI you'd become a target for robberies and shit in alot of LA countries.

They are more expensive than in the US since they don't devaluate as fast, what kind of robbery do you mean? Its a niche car its wheels and mirrors aren't as good to steal as most random SUVs, if you mean to personally target for robbery well people who can afford an STI don't live in ghettos most of the time so its not an issue.

You do become a target for kidnapping when you have stuff like a Ferrari or a Lambo tho, the majority of ppl who have those have also have an SUV behind full of body guards.

In the last 2 years Loco has lived in Montreal, Tokyo, Manhattan. Why the fuck would he need or want a car? hiems, this is yet another example of you playing bullshit games you think you can win while cowering away from the actual game that is recompisition.

On November 02 2021 06:07 RiKD wrote: In the last 2 years Loco has lived in Montreal, Tokyo, Manhattan. Why the fuck would he need or want a car? hiems, this is yet another example of you playing bullshit games you think you can win while cowering away from the actual game that is recompisition.

Manhattan?

...so you're saying the dumb loco lives <1 hour away from me?! Sheesh. Also how does he afford to live in Manhattan I don't get it.

On November 02 2021 05:40 Baalim wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2021 04:43 hiems wrote: Looked up prices in Mexico, alot more affordable than I thought. I always imagined even driving an STI you'd become a target for robberies and shit in alot of LA countries. They are more expensive than in the US since they don't devaluate as fast, what kind of robbery do you mean? Its a niche car its wheels and mirrors aren't as good to steal as most random SUVs, if you mean to personally target for robbery well people who can afford an STI don't live in ghettos most of the time so its not an issue. You do become a target for kidnapping when you have stuff like a Ferrari or a Lambo tho, the majority of ppl who have those have also have an SUV behind full of body guards.

Idk my logic was:
STI isn't a common car in Mexico probably.
Its somewhat flashy
Its worth more than most people's net worth there even used

I'm not sure what kind of robbery. Mostly just petty theft not kidnapping...Maybe ppl follow you and wait for you to come back into your car and force you to give them your watch and wallet or force you to go to your atm or something.

Here's how the theft market in Europe goes:

1. Cars that are giga expensive (obviously)
2. Cars that are mass-driven - easy to disassemble and sell in parts as the market is big

Cars that are not that expensive but flashy are usually not worth the risk since there is no market for them at all, so unless someone's being a dumbass and goes for a joyride nobody'd touch it.

Don't see a reason why it would be different in Mexico

Also hiems I hope you understand that all these insults only show your insecurities even more... nobody actually thinks less of Loco

On November 02 2021 12:46 Spitfiree wrote: Here's how the theft market in Europe goes: 1. Cars that are giga expensive (obviously) 2. Cars that are mass-driven - easy to disassemble and sell in parts as the market is big Cars that are not that expensive but flashy are usually not worth the risk since there is no market for them at all, so unless someone's being a dumbass and goes for a joyride nobody'd touch it. Don't see a reason why it would be different in Mexico Also hiems I hope you understand that all these insults only show your insecurities even more... nobody actually thinks less of Loco

What part of petty theft / stealing your wallet/watch did you not understand. Facepalm.jpg I want you to graduate from "always-wrong" moniker to "mostly-always wrong" you were on the right track with the women <130 lbs (though it should be <120lbs) but again you are back to your usual self.

On November 02 2021 10:00 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2021 06:07 RiKD wrote: In the last 2 years Loco has lived in Montreal, Tokyo, Manhattan. Why the fuck would he need or want a car? hiems, this is yet another example of you playing bullshit games you think you can win while cowering away from the actual game that is recompisition. how does he afford to live in Manhattan I don't get it.

Not having a car is a good start.

I sold my car 5 years ago and for the most part love public transit. I like to chill and read a book, think, listen to music. Or just look at the people around me. Been cycling to work every day and it has added to my cardio. Technically I don't own a car right now but I share two; whenever I need one I have one. I've saved a lot of money over the years. I'm not a car guy at all but my brother just got a new Toyota Camry and it's really nice to drive. I'm not sure what I'd buy if I needed one.

hiems like to make enemies eh, start shit without any reason

On November 02 2021 20:11 lostaccount wrote: hiems like to make enemies eh, start shit without any reason

haha jlost you are a funny guy. I told you it was a joke bro my bad haha.

On November 02 2021 04:28 hiems wrote: I'm thinking of changing to a rav4 hybrid cause I need to carry a bunch of random shit and I need the space lol. The new plug in hybrid rav4 prime seems pretty cool. I actually got the idea for my current car Acura ILX 2.4 manual from this youtuber redline reviews and he recently switched to it.

If you get the rav4 check out a company called comma.ai. Thats the autopilot mod. It takes over the radar cruise control and lane-keep-assist tech to drive the car by itself, it's amazing. Tons of youtube videos demonstrating it, probably even in your car. The mod is literally nothing more than a plug n' play dashcam that hooks into the cars computer port to intercept all the sensor data and tell the steering wheel/gas pedal how to move. I havent even sold mine yet, if you get it let me know and I'll give you a good deal.

On November 02 2021 23:09 NewbSaibot wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2021 04:28 hiems wrote: I'm thinking of changing to a rav4 hybrid cause I need to carry a bunch of random shit and I need the space lol. The new plug in hybrid rav4 prime seems pretty cool. I actually got the idea for my current car Acura ILX 2.4 manual from this youtuber redline reviews and he recently switched to it. If you get the rav4 check out a company called comma.ai. Thats the autopilot mod. It takes over the radar cruise control and lane-keep-assist tech to drive the car by itself, it's amazing. Tons of youtube videos demonstrating it, probably even in your car. The mod is literally nothing more than a plug n' play dashcam that hooks into the cars computer port to intercept all the sensor data and tell the steering wheel/gas pedal how to move. I havent even sold mine yet, if you get it let me know and I'll give you a good deal.

Yea I haven't looked at it much but probably not for me.

I don't do alot of highway driving and even when I do I never use cruise control. I don't think I'd be comfortable using that city driving in NJ.. Id be open to something like this if it were fully level 5 autonomous but otherwise not really interested.

Also what you doing now that you sold your corolla?

On November 02 2021 16:17 RiKD wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2021 10:00 hiems wrote:   On November 02 2021 06:07 RiKD wrote: In the last 2 years Loco has lived in Montreal, Tokyo, Manhattan. Why the fuck would he need or want a car? hiems, this is yet another example of you playing bullshit games you think you can win while cowering away from the actual game that is recompisition. how does he afford to live in Manhattan I don't get it. Not having a car is a good start.

A+

I'm not shaming Loco for not having a car or anything in some serious way. Its more humor/bro joke. Loco is a very memeable person cause he is so radical so the whole Loco is broke shtick is funny at least for me.

I bought a Miata to enjoy the weather

On November 04 2021 01:52 NewbSaibot wrote: I bought a Miata to enjoy the weather

Nice one of these days I need to test drive one of these smaller rwd sports cars.

On November 04 2021 01:52 NewbSaibot wrote: I bought a Miata to enjoy the weather

It's also an option, I like the look of the Miata and lightweight rwd is amazing however its lack of power it has always been an issue, I've always thought that if mazda sold a turbo version it would sell like crazy.

On November 02 2021 10:06 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2021 05:40 Baalim wrote:   On November 02 2021 04:43 hiems wrote: Looked up prices in Mexico, alot more affordable than I thought. I always imagined even driving an STI you'd become a target for robberies and shit in alot of LA countries. They are more expensive than in the US since they don't devaluate as fast, what kind of robbery do you mean? Its a niche car its wheels and mirrors aren't as good to steal as most random SUVs, if you mean to personally target for robbery well people who can afford an STI don't live in ghettos most of the time so its not an issue. You do become a target for kidnapping when you have stuff like a Ferrari or a Lambo tho, the majority of ppl who have those have also have an SUV behind full of body guards. Idk my logic was: STI isn't a common car in Mexico probably. Its somewhat flashy Its worth more than most people's net worth there even used I'm not sure what kind of robbery. Mostly just petty theft not kidnapping...Maybe ppl follow you and wait for you to come back into your car and force you to give them your watch and wallet or force you to go to your atm or something.

If you live in a ghetto and have nice stuff then yeah its risky, but thieves don't follow nice car arounds into good neighborhoods to pounce, thats is risky and not that easy to pull off, it requires a level of sophistications most thieves don't have, as in any part of the world they steal in their own neighborhoods

On November 02 2021 22:22 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On November 02 2021 20:11 lostaccount wrote: hiems like to make enemies eh, start shit without any reason haha jlost you are a funny guy. I told you it was a joke bro my bad haha.

okay

Poll: Does Loco even know how to change a flat tire?
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Obv not he doesn't even have a car

BTW I think it goes without saying that the dumb spitfiree cannot.

Poll: Does hiems know how to make a girl come?
(Vote): Obviously not
(Vote): Maybe just his mom?
(Vote): If he pays the whore enough money he can at least simulate the experience

On December 17 2021 17:08 hiems wrote: BTW I think it goes without saying that the dumb spitfiree cannot.

Even if I didn't I drive a new Tiguan where I can get service pretty much anywhere in the entire EU in a matter of 30minutes to fix my shit, Prius boi

On December 17 2021 21:55 Loco wrote: Poll: Does hiems know how to make a girl come? (Vote): Obviously not (Vote): Maybe just his mom? (Vote): If he pays the whore enough money he can at least simulate the experience

Probably his mom once he moves out, if he ever moves out

loco!! why ru so mad lol. seems like you really cant change a tire!!

im pretty good at sex fwiw.

On December 17 2021 22:59 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2021 17:08 hiems wrote: BTW I think it goes without saying that the dumb spitfiree cannot. Even if I didn't I drive a new Tiguan where I can get service pretty much anywhere in the entire EU in a matter of 30minutes to fix my shit, Prius boi   On December 17 2021 21:55 Loco wrote: Poll: Does hiems know how to make a girl come? (Vote): Obviously not (Vote): Maybe just his mom? (Vote): If he pays the whore enough money he can at least simulate the experience Probably his mom once he moves out, if he ever moves out

I dont even want to make fun of you for having less money than me cause I am living the first world and you are living in the second world.

But I have no idea why you are so proud of your dumb car that you financed probably like a life noob.

The Prius V is a great car, as is all of the other hybrid offerings in the toyota lineup. The Acura I drive is also a great car. I own both of those cars without some dumb note on it unlike u lol.

Imagine being proud of paying cash for an asset that depreciates the second you get the keys for. Not that I'm surprised by your lack of economical education. Speaking of 'second world countries isn't it ironic that you're the one living with your parents?


Fairly certain that if we need to compare our net worth I'd have a higher .. especially if you're really only worth 300k$. Considering you've sacrificed your self-worth and any chance you've had of self-development I'm glad you made some non-impressive money by your early 30s. I'm sure it was worth it

On December 18 2021 01:25 Spitfiree wrote: Imagine being proud of paying cash for an asset that depreciates the second you get the keys for. Not that I'm surprised by your lack of economical education.

Lmao

On December 18 2021 01:25 Spitfiree wrote: Fairly certain that if we need to compare our net worth I'd have a higher .. especially if you're really only worth 300k$. Considering you've sacrificed your self-worth and any chance you've had of self-development I'm glad you made some non-impressive money by your early 30s. I'm sure it was worth it

I've made some mistakes when I was younger, but that doesn't mean you just do whatever and tilt wildly like rikd...instead you try and get back on track and try your best in life.

Poll: Music hiems turns on to avoid hearing his senior parents fucking?
(Vote): Video game music
(Vote): Disney music
(Vote): Grimes

obviously, he might not realize it but his psyche needs to work through all this rage somehow

On December 18 2021 01:49 hiems wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2021 01:25 Spitfiree wrote: Fairly certain that if we need to compare our net worth I'd have a higher .. especially if you're really only worth 300k$. Considering you've sacrificed your self-worth and any chance you've had of self-development I'm glad you made some non-impressive money by your early 30s. I'm sure it was worth it I've made some mistakes when I was younger, but that doesn't mean you just do whatever and tilt wildly like rikd...instead you try and get back on track and try your best in life.

It's hard to reply when the cognitive dissonance is that far in

Loco is so tilted lol

I love it that when I own you at your own game your typical response is "Loco WHY U SO MAD LOL" "LOCO SO TILTED"

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

On December 18 2021 17:01 Loco wrote: I love it that when I own you at your own game your typical response is "Loco WHY U SO MAD LOL" "LOCO SO TILTED" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Lol because u seem to be very tilted what do u want me to say.

He seems like he dropped off any inner mental prejudices of him feeling like less of a human if he drops down to your level and use your 'tools' against you. Good for him tbh - it's like when you act like you're interested in the drawings of your 5yo nephew, except in this case it's a 30yo egocentric dude on the internet and it makes it more entertaining

On December 18 2021 17:01 Loco wrote: I love it that when I own you at your own game your typical response is "Loco WHY U SO MAD LOL" "LOCO SO TILTED" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Sometimes I miss the days when I wrote shit like this online. How can u guys still have the motivation for it

On December 18 2021 18:33 Spitfiree wrote: He seems like he dropped off any inner mental prejudices of him feeling like less of a human if he drops down to your level and use your 'tools' against you. Good for him tbh - it's like when you act like you're interested in the drawings of your 5yo nephew, except in this case it's a 30yo egocentric dude on the internet and it makes it more entertaining

As a general rule if you are not a right-winger and you come to LP it is a good idea to act like you have -50 IQ points and expect the same from others. It's the only way to enjoy yourself.

this ford maverick pretty tempting for me. comes in either fwd 2.5L hybrid or a awd 2.0 L turbo.

fwd 2.5 Hybrid gets 42mpg city 30mpg highway and starts at $20k which is pretty insane to me. would consider trading in the acura for this.

Be sure to buy it cash, you don't want to miss out on losing 20% of your asset's value the day you get it.

On December 19 2021 19:10 Spitfiree wrote: Be sure to buy it cash, you don't want to miss out on losing 20% of your asset's value the day you get it.

lmao u r so retarded.

if you are talking about opportunity cost, you realize u can borrow on margin to buy an appreciating asset so your argument doesnt even make sense. alot of ppl's investment strategies involves some sort of emergency fund or cash position so I mean its pretty retarded to not buy a car with cash if you can. lastly most people are seduced by weakness and use financing to buy a car they cannot afford....like...you...explain this logic for me spitfiree. you can only afford a 8k car cash but you are driving a 20k car financed. you just bought more car than you can afford so that "20%" depreciation just fucked you up much more. OH and btw that 20% refers to NEW cars which everyone told you in your blog not to buy...but you are of course famously a dumb ass.

pretty much every financial expert in the world says its stupid to finance a car. yet here we are spitfiree telling us how stupid it is to buy cash...lol...wait what was that nickname you are famous for again? ohhh wait I think I remember...was it "always-wrong?" lol yeah I think that was it LOL

Looks like you could fit a lot of packages of your favorite Pampers in there, nice choice

Pretty much all of what you said is horrible advice... for someone that values cash so much you really type in dumbshit

The only reason you'd wanna buy a car cash is if the loan offers are horrible and/or if you'd end up needing to liquidate the car.. in which case you shouldn't be buying one.

Love the assumptions about my financial status though, whatever keeps your ego afloat.

On December 19 2021 21:24 Spitfiree wrote: Pretty much all of what you said is horrible advice... for someone that values cash so much you really type in dumbshit The only reason you'd wanna buy a car cash is if the loan offers are horrible and/or if you'd end up needing to liquidate the car.. in which case you shouldn't be buying one. Love the assumptions about my financial status though, whatever keeps your ego afloat.

Lol i bought the car for my elderly parents u sack of shit. I mainly drive my Acura but not like it matters u are just angry that I fucking humiliate u constantly for being a dumb always wrong lol..

Love how u say all this shit about saving the environment and ur giving me this much crap about getting my parents a prius. Typical liberal bullshit hypocrisy, rack up debt to chase instant gratification and status while criticizing buying a good value used car that is low emission.

And ill say this for millionth time there's nothing wrong with driving a prius.

On December 19 2021 20:17 Loco wrote: Looks like you could fit a lot of packages of your favorite Pampers in there, nice choice

Loco!! U seem very mad that I own u rikd and spitfiree constantly.

Like I said before I wear diapers rikd should be long be suicide by nowz!! Lol!!!

in all honesty, i don't really give two fucks about the Prius, it's probably a great car and buying second-hand car cash is the way to go, there is a great difference between buying a secondhand and new one and I would've bought a secondhand too if the market wasn't retardedly priced due to the shortages

It's just entertaining to trigger you either way

I'm with Mr. Poopy Pants that Prius's are fine. Even better if he bough it for his parents.

It is interesting that I stop responding to Mr. Poopface and he baits me with suicide but I am dumb enough to come back and retort. Such a vicious cycle. Mr. Poop Poop Butt you need diapers for your poopy butt!! Lol!!!

The last 3 posts have not been fun or meaningful in anyway and hiems will just come up with something more dumb and say I am tilted or mad. How bored do I even need to be to make a post like this?

Give her one of your Pampers next time hiems, lol!!!

so 2021 is the last STI.

I feel like it could be a decent car because it will go up in value if u take care of it. (not seriously in the market for a new STI)

but if you had to choose a color which would u pick?

I drive an acura ilx the 2.4l ... I got it cause it is really cheap lol. I think the 2.4 from 2013-2015 probably 90%+ are male drivers since it only comes in manual but overall would not be surprised if most ILX drivers are women lol.

No idea but I wish I had enough for a nicer car.

I feel like it's over for gas cars so it'll be sad to miss the last generation of a nice gas car.

On June 09 2022 09:01 lostaccount wrote: just be grateful u have a car, some ppl on lp dont even have 1

Lol true true .

On July 06 2022 02:14 lostaccount wrote: Show nested quote + On June 04 2022 12:45 hiems wrote: No idea but I wish I had enough for a nicer car. I feel like it's over for gas cars so it'll be sad to miss the last generation of a nice gas car. go luckbox a 200$+ tournament then you can get a new one lol

I wouldn't care but imo gasoline cars are just not going to be a thing in the future and it.kind of sucks to save up for a fun car when u are 40 only for it to be electric. I'm not being some hater of electric cars but I do feel there is going to be regret of not having a fun gasoline car.

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